Stus-List Re: Chainplate Sealing.

2022-03-21 Thread Doug via CnC-List
"I pulled both chainplate cover plates and noticed that I had a stainless rod on starboard that holds the two chainplates pieces together. One on port is missing." I had rods from from the chain plates down to frame work in the hull. This was on my LF38. The standing rigging went to u-bolts on t

Stus-List Re: Chainplate Sealing.

2022-03-21 Thread John Read via CnC-List
Hi John Had similar issues on my 34. Silicone, 4200 and similar all failed as did not adhere well to the stainless chain plates as they move a lot as rig tensions. Only thing that has worked is butyl. Going on 10 years and no leaks. Not sure what benefits the stainless pin provides as is not wel

Stus-List Re: Chainplate Sealing.

2022-03-21 Thread Randy Stafford via CnC-List
Hi Jeff, Regarding epoxy, I can still get my chainplates out. That’s why I put a releasing agent on them. Once the epoxy hardened, I took them back out, and now the cutouts are a better fit around the chainplates. But you have a point about movement. Next time I get in there, I’ll have to i

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2022-03-21 Thread Richard Walter via CnC-List
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Stus-List Re: Chainplate Sealing.

2022-03-21 Thread John McCrea via CnC-List
Thanks. Will dissemble the bolts etc and check them out. From: Jeffrey A. Laman via CnC-List Sent: Monday, March 21, 2022 6:12 PM To: Stus-List Cc: Jeffrey A. Laman Subject: Stus-List Re: Chainplate Sealing. I second the sealing with butyl. Do NOT use silicone or 4200. The epoxy idea ma

Stus-List Re: Chainplate Sealing.

2022-03-21 Thread John McCrea via CnC-List
Thanks Mike! From: MICHAEL BRANNON via CnC-List Sent: Monday, March 21, 2022 5:39 PM To: Stus-List Cc: MICHAEL BRANNON Subject: Stus-List Re: Chainplate Sealing. John, I’ve owned my 36-1 since 1997. I’ve yet to make the chainplates quit leaking but I’ve certainly reduced the amount.

Stus-List Re: Chainplate Sealing.

2022-03-21 Thread Mike Rose via CnC-List
Well… I’ll add my experience. First, I do use butyl as much as possible, but found chainplates a difficult application. The main problem we’re the cover plates are welded to the chainplate. This makes it difficult to get a significant amount of butyl in place still allowing the mounting bolts t

Stus-List Re: Chainplate Sealing.

2022-03-21 Thread Jeffrey A. Laman via CnC-List
I second the sealing with butyl. Do NOT use silicone or 4200. The epoxy idea may be ok, but messy and no going back. "Beefing up" the plates wont do any harm but isn't necessary. These plates effectively protect the sealant. That's it. Check the balsa core around the penetration. Depending on ex

Stus-List Re: Chainplate Sealing.

2022-03-21 Thread Matthew via CnC-List
Not so fast. I'm a fan of 3M, and used to be a fan of 4200. However, in December 2021 Practical Sailor reported that after several years, firmed up 4200 reverted back to goop. Practical Sailor asked 3M about this, but as of the April 2022 "3M has offered no comment on the cause or global impact

Stus-List Re: Chainplate Sealing.

2022-03-21 Thread MICHAEL BRANNON via CnC-List
John, I’ve owned my 36-1 since 1997. I’ve yet to make the chainplates quit leaking but I’ve certainly reduced the amount. First, I doubt that the balsa around your chainplates is sealed. Mine wasn’t. I had to replace core material on the starboard side. Second. Those aluminum trim pie

Stus-List Re: Chainplate Sealing.

2022-03-21 Thread Randy Stafford via CnC-List
Hi John, I resealed the chainplates on my 30 MK I about five years ago with advice from Dennis Cheuvront here on the list. I removed the chainplates (there’s only one per side on a 30 MK I) and dug out maybe a half-inch of wet / rotted balsa core around the cutouts between the fiberglass layer

Stus-List Re: Chainplate Sealing.

2022-03-21 Thread Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List
John, Many would suggest 3M 4200, but silicone has issues. I swear by butyl tape (it never hardens out completely and it is very flexible). The best source is Maine Sail (Compass Marine https://marinehowto.com/), though, I am not sure if he still sells this stuff (he had a bad hard attack last

Stus-List Re: Chainplate Sealing.

2022-03-21 Thread Rod Stright via CnC-List
3M 4200 From: John McCrea via CnC-List Sent: March-21-22 5:28 PM To: 'Stus-List' Cc: johnmcc...@comcast.net Subject: Stus-List Chainplate Sealing. Hello. I have a leak on my port side chainplate that needs addressing. I pulled both chainplate cover plates and noticed that I had a stainle

Stus-List Chainplate Sealing.

2022-03-21 Thread John McCrea via CnC-List
Hello. I have a leak on my port side chainplate that needs addressing. I pulled both chainplate cover plates and noticed that I had a stainless rod on starboard that holds the two chainplates pieces together. One on port is missing. Maybe that is causing excess movement and more adapt to leak? The

Stus-List Re: Teak Handrail install

2022-03-21 Thread Bill Coleman via CnC-List
The Brass are a little fatter, but you don’t have to worry about SS on SS Galling. https://www.rockler.com/e-z-knife-threaded-insert-for-hard-wood-brass-pack-of-25 The SS ones allow for a smaller hole. Similar in price. I put a thin coating of tefgel on a screw, put it in the helicoil, an

Stus-List Re: Teak Handrail install

2022-03-21 Thread Randy Stafford via CnC-List
Chuck that sounds like a good plan. I replaced my exterior teak handrails five years ago (1972 30 MK I hull #79) and they were fastened almost the same way - with long wood screws through the interior handrails and cabintop (no nuts involved). When I reassembled I fastened them the same way (w