Stus-List Re: leeward layline

Bob, Maybe it's something you have to see to understand. Please don't take this as talking down to you, I'm simply trying to makes sure we are starting from the same baseline. VMG (velocity made good) or sometimes CS (course speed) is the speed of approach to the next way point. If you point di

Stus-List Re: Captain's Log: Stardate 11276.2

Thanks for sharing your voyages, Captain. Sent from my iPhone On Oct 6, 2021, at 4:39 PM, Matthew via CnC-List wrote:  Sad day. If you left a manual or device on board, someday you may have to give them a “piece of the action.” From: Edd Schillay via CnC-List Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2

Stus-List Re: leeward layline

On one boat I was the union member, I finally put the helmsman on foredeck after one too many snap jibes ….. after that they were much more controlled, from the foredeck! Paul From: Graham Collins via CnC-List Sent: Wednesday, October 6, 2021 5:56:01 PM To: St

Stus-List Re: leeward layline

I've heard that the non-union members are known to hook the spin up wrong, so it is flying sideways (or what, 360/3 degrees offset if we want to get particular) Graham Collins Secret Plans C&C 35-III #11 On 2021-10-06 1:49 p.m., Jeff Nelson via CnC-List wrote: Mike, You know that all Helms an

Stus-List Re: Captain's Log: Stardate 11276.2

You sold your boat ? Congratulations Sadly I missed this one On Wed, Oct 6, 2021 at 4:33 PM Edd Schillay via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > *Captain's Log: Stardate 11276.2* > This was the final cruise of the Starship Enterprise (NCC-1701-B) under my > command. This ship, and her histo

Stus-List Re: Captain's Log: Stardate 11276.2

Sad day. If you left a manual or device on board, someday you may have to give them a "piece of the action." From: Edd Schillay via CnC-List Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2021 4:33 PM To: Stus-List Cc: Edd Schillay Subject: Stus-List Captain's Log: Stardate 11276.2 Captain's Log: Starda

Stus-List Re: Captain's Log: Stardate 11276.2

That's a lot of redshirts in that photo, Captain. Six went out, two came back. :-D On 10/6/2021 4:33 PM, Edd Schillay via CnC-List wrote: > *Captain's Log: Stardate 11276.2* > This was the final cruise of the Starship Enterprise (NCC-1701-B) under > my command. This ship, and her history, will

Stus-List Captain's Log: Stardate 11276.2

Captain's Log: Stardate 11276.2 This was the final cruise of the Starship Enterprise (NCC-1701-B) under my command. This ship, and her history, will shortly become the care of another crew. To them and their posterity will we commit our future. They will continue the voyages we have begun, and j

Stus-List Re: leeward layline

I use a dousing sock for moments like these :) Cheers, Randy > On Oct 6, 2021, at 12:22 PM, Matthew via CnC-List > wrote: > > Samarai douse? > > From: Randy Stafford via CnC-List > > Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2021 2:18 PM > To: Stus-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc

Stus-List Re: leeward layline

Samarai douse? From: Randy Stafford via CnC-List Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2021 2:18 PM To: Stus-List Cc: Hoyt, Mike ; Randy Stafford Subject: Stus-List Re: leeward layline Yes, I had to file a report with the Foredeck Union on Sunday, as my helmsman gybed my boat before I was read

Stus-List Re: leeward layline

Yes, I had to file a report with the Foredeck Union on Sunday, as my helmsman gybed my boat before I was ready to gybe the spin pole, and of course there was an unfortunate wind shift at that exact moment too, and as a result we had a general spinnaker shit show that required a complete douse to

Stus-List Re: leeward layline

Bob Your getting good answers, however you did not tell us your boat model our type of spinnaker you have (Symmetrical or Asymmetrical). Both will make a difference.  Ed advice of not sailing to the laylines but keeping to middle is best for the reasons he stated. Especially if your C&C was a

Stus-List Re: leeward layline

Here's another way to think about it: You are sailing 140 degrees off the wind, or 40 degrees form DDW. Gybe when the bearing to the mark will allow you to turn 80 degrees. (I can't tell you how many times I get impatient and gybe too soon because I don't follow this method) Joel On Wed, Oct 6

Stus-List Re: leeward layline

Mike, You know that all Helms and Tacticians expect the crew to be America's Cup experts. I guess that's why the Foredeck Union came into being. :-) Cheers,    Jeff Nelson    Muir Caileag    C&C 30 - 0549    Armdale Yacht Club On 2021-10-06 1:42 p.m., Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List wrote: Hi Bob I

Stus-List Re: leeward layline

Hi Bob If you are happy with your speed on current angle then gybe when true wind angle is the same on the opposite gybe. Sure sounds simple but most of us gybe too late or too early. Too early on a light wind day means that you will end up sailing deeper and slower than you intended or perfo

Stus-List Re: leeward layline

If you want something more simplistic, you can try this: Windward - Keep the mark between your bow and shrouds. Leeward - Keep the mark between your bow and half the distance to the shrouds. It's far from perfect, but it is simple enough to keep you close, while you are trying to figure out al

Stus-List Re: leeward layline

I don't race (much anyway), so I just gybe when something gets in the way (like a tug towing a barge usually), or it looks like I'll need to in order to make the next destination. I think what they are saying is you maximize your VMG under chute for the conditions, and once you know the TWA for th

Stus-List Re: leeward layline

I don't understand how either answer is telling me it's time to gybe. Bob > On 10/06/2021 11:37 AM Shawn Wright via CnC-List > wrote: > > > I don't race, but do use VMG when trying to get our best time to > destination, especially on longer days. This works well enough in m

Stus-List Re: leeward layline

I don't race, but do use VMG when trying to get our best time to destination, especially on longer days. This works well enough in many long channels and inlets with wind aligned with our course, but sometimes it's not aligned. In these instances I'll have to try this trick for fooling the VMG by g

Stus-List Re: leeward layline

Bob, On Touche', we don't try to "bang the corners" or sail long to the laylines. Unlike sailing upwind, when flying a chute, you don't lose much time during a gybe, assuming it's done proficiently. Unless there's a compelling reason to sail off to one side of the course to a layline, you're usu

Stus-List Re: leeward layline

Hmmm...Interesting question. So, Ed's answer was pretty good, I'll add a few thoughts here: AW isn't an ideal guide, True wind is what is needed so that you can keep the angle to true wind to be constant on either Gybe, assuming you know what the best angle is. If you can find polar's for your

Stus-List Re: leeward layline

Bob, There is really no way to answer that as much depends on how fast your boat sails in various win conditions. For example, in heavier breeze, you can sail almost directly downwind. In light air, you’ll want to sail higher to maximize your speed. The key is to keep an eye on your VMG as you

Stus-List leeward layline

I'm fairly new to flying a spinnaker. I did it last weekend in a race and I believe I overstood the mark as we were sailing 110 AW before the gybe and 85 AW heading directly to the mark. How does one determine when to gybe? BobThanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to he