Re: Stus-List Tips for finding and keeping racing crew

2019-12-16 Thread Jim Watts via CnC-List
Suck them in with a good meal and lots of liquor. Then put them in shackles and whip them frequently. Dousing them with salt water helps. Jim Watts Paradigm Shift C&C 35 Mk III Victoria, BC On Mon, 16 Dec 2019 at 20:31, Randy Stafford via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > I got some ad

Re: Stus-List Tips for finding and keeping racing crew

2019-12-16 Thread Randy Stafford via CnC-List
I got some advice on this topic about five years ago from a female J/22 racer I really respect. She said get some of your good friends, people you like to spend time with, and make them into your crew - regardless of how little sailing experience they have. I took her advice and that’s how I r

Re: Stus-List PHRF Reviews and Adjustments

2019-12-16 Thread Michael Brown via CnC-List
There is not much consistency between PHRF districts on rating adjustments for items like sail measurements or prop type. That makes comparing the class PHRF ( SP - speed potential ) and individual boat PHRF ( ASP - adjusted speed potential ) difficult without knowing all the details. As an exa

Re: Stus-List Tips for finding and keeping racing crew

2019-12-16 Thread Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List
Word of mouth and reaching out seems to work better than “crew list” boards. FWIW (not much), in my experience you need to find people who are committed to going all the time (like every race in the schedule) and, in turn, you as skipper also need to be equally committed. If you don’t race all

Stus-List Tips for finding and keeping racing crew

2019-12-16 Thread CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List
New topic, I'm trying to help a friend You guys who race, Got any tips on finding and keeping good crew? Chuck ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support

Re: Stus-List listed weights

2019-12-16 Thread sv Rebecca Leah via CnC-List
My Landfall 39 tipped the travel lift scales at 23800, in full live aboard status. Doug Mountjoy Sv Rebecca Leah C&C LF39253-208-1412Port Orchard YC wa. null___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is gr

Re: Stus-List listed weights

2019-12-16 Thread Donald Kern via CnC-List
Shawn, Did the marna forget to look below and pump out the 2 1/2 tons of water that was up to the v-berth ?? Don Fireball C&C 35 Mk2 On 12/16/2019 6:55 PM, Shawn Wright via CnC-List wrote: I was told by the crane operator that my 35-2 weighed 19,000 lbs at haulout, which seems a bit excessive,

Re: Stus-List listed weights

2019-12-16 Thread Shawn Wright via CnC-List
I was told by the crane operator that my 35-2 weighed 19,000 lbs at haulout, which seems a bit excessive, even with full tanks and cruising gear. The crane is limited to 20,000 lbs, and since at least two other larger boats were hauled at the same time (Cabot 36 - 17,800 rated and Hughes 38 - 14,80

Stus-List 30 MK I Weight

2019-12-16 Thread Randy Stafford via CnC-List
I weighed Grenadine (hull #79, 1972) on a truck scale when I bought her - trailer with loaded boat, less empty trailer after launch. By unloading and weighing all loose gear I calculated she weighed 8682 pounds with empty tanks and nothing aboard but her two batteries. Her as-sailed weight is

Re: Stus-List listed weights

2019-12-16 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
Absolutely! To the pound. Hahahaha! /S Dennis C. Touché 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 16, 2019, at 3:26 PM, Joe Della Barba via CnC-List > wrote: > > So does the 35 MK I really weigh 10,500 pounds? > > Joe > > Coquina > > > >> On 12/16/2019 4:02 PM, CHARLES SCHEA

Re: Stus-List listed weights

2019-12-16 Thread Gary Nylander via CnC-List
I seem to recall a story about C&C 99 number one. When it was shipped to Annapolis for the boat show, it was “not quite done”, so the story goes. It had a cobbled together interior – I heard it was made of some 110 parts, but cut down and very light. Then the boat was shown at the show and s

Re: Stus-List listed weights

2019-12-16 Thread Charlie Nelson via CnC-List
+1 to Chuck regarding marketing.  OTOH, given the potential variations in the layup of our 'not one design boats' as they were manufactured, with different masts, keels, interior fit-outs, etc. etc., I doubt that even the designer/builder knows how much the boat weighs when it leaves the factory

Re: Stus-List listed weights

2019-12-16 Thread Joe Della Barba via CnC-List
So does the 35 MK I really weigh 10,500 pounds? Joe Coquina On 12/16/2019 4:02 PM, CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List wrote: Sometimes marketing people adjust specifications to sell boats.  I would call it lying, but sales people call it marketing.  I'm a person who would pour over data and spec

Re: Stus-List listed weights

2019-12-16 Thread CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List
Sometimes marketing people adjust specifications to sell boats. I would call it lying, but sales people call it marketing. I'm a person who would pour over data and specifications to make a buying decision and the sales guys know us and simply change the manufacturing specs to sell product. A

Re: Stus-List PHRF Reviews and Adjustments

2019-12-16 Thread Donald Kern via CnC-List
David PHRF ratings in Narr Bay are done on the apparent design performance of specific class variants (Mk-1, Mk-2, dk, cb, tm, etc} and then any of the boat's modifications that are shown on that boats PHRF application (weight reduction, sail areas, etc.) This is compared to other boats racing

Re: Stus-List My outboards..

2019-12-16 Thread Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List
I used something similar to this: https://www.amazon.com/Kool-Products-Retail-Flexible-Replacement/dp/B07HRFF4LW/ref=sr_1_5?keywords=no+spill+spout&qid=1576526251&sr=8-5 – it works fine, but the ribbed spout will break eventually (and you may not notice). Lately I bought a similar design, but t

Re: Stus-List Winter Cover Measurements for C&C 30-2

2019-12-16 Thread Allan Rheaume via CnC-List
Hi Pete,             I have one of the Quinte Canvas ones meant for mast up storage. I can't get to the boat until mid to late May though...after that I can send you some dimensions. Quinte Canvas does have the measurements for the 30-2 on file though I don't know if he (Dave Davis) would share

Re: Stus-List Bilge pump switches

2019-12-16 Thread dwight veinot via CnC-List
I use solder to connect the float switch for my electric bilge pump and cover the joints with heat shrink tubing then tie the soldered wire joints off high in the bilge close to the cabin sole. The positive wire is connected directly to the positive terminal of the battery with in line fuse a few i

Re: Stus-List Bilge pump switches

2019-12-16 Thread Joe Della Barba via CnC-List
My bilge pumps are on circuit breakers, so I don't have that issue, but I suppose I would if I ever get an automatic pump. I do have a few things that use those connections and so far none have ever come off on their own. The fit is pretty tight. You can always get vice grips and squeeze the fi

Re: Stus-List PHRF Reviews and Adjustments

2019-12-16 Thread Joel Aronson via CnC-List
PHRF of the Chesapeake gives credit for genoas under 140%. 140 is the same as 155 for ratings purposes.There is an adjustment for folding/feathering props, but I think it is only 6 seconds. On Mon, Dec 16, 2019 at 1:46 PM Gary Nylander via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > PHRF of t

Re: Stus-List PHRF Reviews and Adjustments

2019-12-16 Thread Gary Nylander via CnC-List
PHRF of the Chesapeake assumes you have a prepared boat. That means good to excellent sails, a crack crew, clean bottom, folding or feathering prop, and so forth. They used to assume a 155% genoa, but I have seen some adjustments for smaller or larger (class boats). They are also coming up with

Re: Stus-List Bilge pump switches

2019-12-16 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
Joel, Not that I know of. Touche's bilge switch is high up in a bulkhead in a secure place where nothing will fall on or contact the back of the switch or the wires. The push on connectors are Ancor and fit tightly. The wires are secured in a manner that there is and will be no strain on the co

Re: Stus-List PHRF Reviews and Adjustments

2019-12-16 Thread Gary Nylander via CnC-List
The listed weight of the 30-1 on the spec sheets is 8000#. I doubt there was ever one that light. The ones which have been weighed seem to hover around 9000. After looking at Rich’s #1, I can see a lot of differences, such as his chainplate system. And, after seeing pictures of other boats – min

Re: Stus-List Winter Cover Measurements for C&C 30-2

2019-12-16 Thread Allen Miles via CnC-List
Pete, I have the cover you want avaiable for sale. I had it built for Septima, a 30-2, when I used to winter store her on the hard in CT. Haven't had beed for years. I am returning to NE NC at the end of the month. Allen Miles S/V Septima Hampton, VA On Sun, Dec 15, 2019 at 12:01 PM kelly petew

Re: Stus-List My outboards.. - fuel stories

2019-12-16 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
Now that's funny! Dennis C. On Mon, Dec 16, 2019 at 11:55 AM Lee Youngblood via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > Not Coast Guard approved, but I used to do some interesting trips on a 19’ > Cape Dory Typhoon, with an English Seagull outboard. We used a couple one > gal red plastic fue

Re: Stus-List PHRF Reviews and Adjustments

2019-12-16 Thread Chuck Gilchrest via CnC-List
David, PHRF NE covers not only Buzzards Bay but also Cape Cod Bay and Marblehead the latter being a notoriously light air location in the summer. It seems like various regions try to gauge averages to meet the widest range of sailing conditions. In YRLIS, an area for which the C&C 40 was designe

Re: Stus-List My outboards.. - fuel stories

2019-12-16 Thread Lee Youngblood via CnC-List
Not Coast Guard approved, but I used to do some interesting trips on a 19’ Cape Dory Typhoon, with an English Seagull outboard. We used a couple one gal red plastic fuel cans, and then filled a couple bicycle water bottles with fuel, for daily use. It was easier to squirt in a little fuel when

Re: Stus-List PHRF Reviews and Adjustments

2019-12-16 Thread David Risch via CnC-List
This does not explain why my 40's base rating is slower in a light air venue (Narragansett) and faster in breezy venue (Buzzards Bay) when the boat historically is a faster light air boat. One of the reasons I only race long distance vs. Chasing my tail around buoys. Too subjective even at bas

Re: Stus-List My outboards..

2019-12-16 Thread randal johnston via CnC-List
The brand is “No Spill”. Real mixed reviews on amazon. Seems the company has been bought out, newer products aren’t lasting. I was looking at just the spout, as I have plenty of small motor cans, but it seems the cap size is proprietary and won’t fit other brand cans. https://smile.amazon.com

Re: Stus-List Bilge pump switches

2019-12-16 Thread bwhitmore via CnC-List
That is why I use heat shrink crimp connectors, coat the wire with tef gel before crimping, shrink the tubing and follow with coating the connector with liquid electrical tape.Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone Original message From: Joel Aronson via CnC-List Date:

Re: Stus-List My outboards..

2019-12-16 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
Doug, What brand is it? My beef is mainly with the ones where you have to push the spout to pour. Dennis C. On Mon, Dec 16, 2019 at 10:11 AM David Knecht via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > I didn’t think this was going to be a controversial topic, but I have a > “No-Spill” (that br

Re: Stus-List My outboards..

2019-12-16 Thread Joe Della Barba via CnC-List
I have a couple old fashioned metal cans with the spring-loaded handles that I love. They do not let ANY gas smell escape, so they don't smell up my car.  I got the first one for free when someone left it in our "freecycle" spot, AKA next to the dumpster*, and I liked it so much I bought a seco

Re: Stus-List My outboards..

2019-12-16 Thread Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List
Ditto. You can buy “illegal” replacements at any decent hardware store. From: Dennis C. via CnC-List Sent: Monday, December 16, 2019 10:53 AM To: CnClist Cc: Dennis C. Subject: Re: Stus-List My outboards.. I HATE most of the new "spill proof" cans. They're a PIA to operate. Sorry. Hot but

Stus-List Bilge pump switches

2019-12-16 Thread Joel Aronson via CnC-List
While we are talking about bilge pump controls, is there a switch that does NOT use the crappy slide on connectors? I've zip-tied so they are not likely to get pulled off, but it is still only a friction fitting. If anything on the boat needs a secure connection, it is the bilge pump! -- Joel _

Re: Stus-List My outboards..

2019-12-16 Thread David Knecht via CnC-List
I didn’t think this was going to be a controversial topic, but I have a “No-Spill” (that brand) gas can I use for my snowblower/lawn mower and I think it is great. I have had it for years and don’t spill any fuel using it. You can control the flow rate by how far you push the button. I am plan

Re: Stus-List My outboards..

2019-12-16 Thread sv Rebecca Leah via CnC-List
I'm not 100% sure but I think the outboard with an internal fuel tank are gravity fed. You would most likely need a fuel pump of some sort. With no battery the could be difficult to rig. As for the other option "spill proof" gas can. I tend to spill more fuel with them than to old style. I like

Re: Stus-List My outboards..

2019-12-16 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
I HATE most of the new "spill proof" cans. They're a PIA to operate. Sorry. Hot button of mine. Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA On Mon, Dec 16, 2019 at 8:47 AM David Risch via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > Got them all running myself. Great learning process and a > heck

Stus-List My outboards..

2019-12-16 Thread David Risch via CnC-List
Got them all running myself. Great learning process and a heck-uva-lot-cheaper than sending out to an "expert". For the little one with an internal tank. Re-filling fuel is always a messy process. Thinking of plumbing in an external tank or purchasing a "Spill-Proof" gas can. Any experience

Re: Stus-List PHRF Reviews and Adjustments

2019-12-16 Thread CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List
My two cents; With hundreds of boats to rate, I wouldn't expect the rating committees to make any rating adjustment unless there was a serious complaint or an appeal to get their attention, and some good solid race results to make a judgement. Someone I know asked for an appeal to raise his ra

Re: Stus-List Winter Cover Measurements for C&C 30-2

2019-12-16 Thread Chad Osmond via CnC-List
You could contact Quinte Canvas (Top Shop). I know they have all the sizes on file and have built many of them. I'm not sure if they'd want to sell one or just provide the sizes, but they're supposed to be a great product. On Sun., Dec. 15, 2019, 12:01 p.m. kelly petew via CnC-List, < cnc-list@cnc