Re: Stus-List replacing anodes

2019-01-02 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
David, I tend to look a bit askance at Teflon tape myself. I have a fear of a small piece of tape finding its way somewhere I don't want it. Try to find some of the TuffGel. It's a good product. I use it on threads on boats but tend to use regular pipe thread sealant (pipe dope) around the hou

Re: Stus-List replacing anodes

2019-01-02 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
I'm a huge fan of Teflon tape. The white stuff is usually good enough. I use it everywhere. I've found that too much is worse than none at all. I work in an industry where pipe fittings and caps are used all the time. We rarely use sealants of any kind and simply tighten until it stops leaking

Re: Stus-List Using West Marine in-store swaging tool for lifelines?

2019-01-02 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
Are you saying you want a continuous lifeline with a pelican hook at the bow pulpit and another at the stern pulpit? You drop one or the other depending on whether you're bow or stern in? You can use the recommended lifeline wire for that. I replaced lifelines on a J30 where we just put a turnbu

Re: Stus-List Using West Marine in-store swaging tool for lifelines?

2019-01-02 Thread James Hesketh via CnC-List
Bruce wrote: > As for the tool at West Marine, I was asking so that I could do the work > myself not so much to save money, but simply to do the work myself if > reasonably easy. I've not had particularly good luck relying on the skill > of others. > > All opinions are always welcome! > Looks li

Re: Stus-List Using West Marine in-store swaging tool for lifelines?

2019-01-02 Thread Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List
My original thought for using 7x19 is that the wire strength is nearly identical, it would not have the coating which hides corrosion as Neil mentioned, and I want more flexibility than 1x19 offers.  I want that flexibility because of the dock configuration I commonly deal with here in west Flo

Re: Stus-List Using West Marine in-store swaging tool for lifelines?

2019-01-02 Thread Neil Andersen via CnC-List
I understood that coated lifelines were no longer approved for use. You can’t see corrosion or strand breaks if it is covered. Neil 1982 C&C 32 FoxFire Rock Hall, MD Neil Andersen 20691 Jamieson Rd Rock Hall, MD 21661 From: CnC-List on behalf of Chuck Gilchre

Re: Stus-List Using West Marine in-store swaging tool for lifelines?

2019-01-02 Thread Chuck Gilchrest via CnC-List
7x19 wire is designed for running rigging or any application where the wire needs to bend. 1x19 is preferable in a static application. If you reference Loos and Co., their guide for lifelines is 7x7 with a PVC coating. I would also heed the CS Johnson guidelines for using the proper tool fo

Re: Stus-List Cockpit scupper drains

2019-01-02 Thread Neil Andersen via CnC-List
The issue is when the cockpit holes AND the thru-hulls are both below the line. Neil 1982 C&C 32 FoxFire Rock Hall, MD Neil Andersen 20691 Jamieson Rd Rock Hall, MD 21661 From: CnC-List on behalf of Garry Cross via CnC-List Sent: Wednesday, January 2, 2019 2:1

Re: Stus-List Cockpit scupper drains

2019-01-02 Thread Garry Cross via CnC-List
Interesting, on the 35-2 there are 4 drains and 2 through hulls. I don't think they are above the waterline. The aft cockpit floor is lower than the forward one. Both sets of drains are forward. Replaced valves and hoses a few years ago. Reused the through hulls although the tabs inside got busted

Re: Stus-List Using West Marine in-store swaging tool for lifelines?

2019-01-02 Thread Mike Macdonald via CnC-List
I would use 1 x 19. 7x19 can barb and it loves ripping sails. Seen it happen more than once. Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 2, 2019, at 8:42 AM, Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List > wrote: > > Hello all, > > I need to replace the lifelines on my 1994 37/40+. I am going to go with > bare 7/19 wire,

Re: Stus-List [EXTERNAL] Re: Using West Marine in-store swaging tool for lifelines?

2019-01-02 Thread Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List
I will have to look. I think I have threaded ends on there that are hardly bigger than the lifelines themselves. Joe Della Barba Coquina C&C 35 MK I From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Neil Gallagher via CnC-List Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2019 11:31 AM To: D

Re: Stus-List [EXTERNAL] Re: Using West Marine in-store swaging tool for lifelines?

2019-01-02 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
I have a bag of those sleeves somewhere. I got them years ago when I was replacing my lifelines. They are Heyco 98 437-5 Snap Bushings. Yeah, you never would have found them even with the power of Google. Touche's lower lifelines pass easily through the lower holes in the stanchion with just a

Re: Stus-List [EXTERNAL] Re: Using West Marine in-store swaging tool for lifelines?

2019-01-02 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
Neil, it's not uncommon to have a smaller diameter lifeline on the lower location. I would be judicious about drilling out the stanchions to accommodate a larger diameter. The sanctions with which I am familiar have sleaves in the holes to prevent the hard rough edges from wearing on the cable.

Re: Stus-List [EXTERNAL] Re: Using West Marine in-store swaging tool for lifelines?

2019-01-02 Thread Andrew Burton via CnC-List
I would use 1X19 wire for lifelines. I think 7X19 is perfectly strong enough, but the strands tend to grab hair and not let it go. Just a minor irritant, I know, but we do tend to lean on the lifelines and many will find this a pain! Andy Andrew Burton 139 Tuckerman Ave Middletown, RI USA02

Re: Stus-List replacing anodes

2019-01-02 Thread David Knecht via CnC-List
Hi Dennis- After having problems with leaking joints of threaded home plumbing projects, I did some reading on line about how professionals make joints without leaks. The overwhelming consensus was that teflon tape is useless and that is consistent with my experience. So I never use teflon tap

Re: Stus-List [EXTERNAL] Re: Using West Marine in-store swaging tool for lifelines?

2019-01-02 Thread Steven A. Demore via CnC-List
When I made my new lifelines last year, I bought a crimping tool at Bacon Sails. It was a little metal block with holes for 4 sizes of crimps, with a bolt on each end that gets tightened down to make the crimp. It cost about $35 and was handy as can be. Steve Demore S/V Doin’ It Right C&C

Re: Stus-List replacing anodes

2019-01-02 Thread Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List
Dave, I commend you for being able to budge the anode with the heater still in place. I tried and failed. I managed to do it only after the heater was out of the boat. Happy New Year! Marek From: CnC-List On Behalf Of David Knecht via CnC-List Sent: Wednesday, January 2, 2019 10:17 To: CnC

Re: Stus-List [EXTERNAL] Re: Using West Marine in-store swaging tool for lifelines?

2019-01-02 Thread Neil Gallagher via CnC-List
Joe, Lifeline replacement is high on my list for this spring, so let me ask a question.  I have two lines each side, the upper passes through relatively large eyes on top of the stanchions while the lower passes through holes barely bigger than the wire diameter, drilled through each stanchio

Re: Stus-List replacing anodes

2019-01-02 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
Both? Kinda. Actually, TefGel makes a pipe thread compound, Tuff-Gel. I have some. However, it's hard to find and probably not worth the effort. I think pipe joint compound would work fine. Teflon tape would probably be OK also. Dennis C. On Wed, Jan 2, 2019 at 9:17 AM David Knecht via CnC-L

Re: Stus-List [EXTERNAL] Re: Using West Marine in-store swaging tool for lifelines?

2019-01-02 Thread Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List
Not all West Marine shops are any good at rigging. The Annapolis West Marine has an actual rigging shop in the store and made my lifelines for pretty cheap. If you don’t have gates in the middle it is just 2 pieces of wire, 4 ends, and labor to press them on. I think it was something like $120 o

Re: Stus-List replacing anodes

2019-01-02 Thread David Knecht via CnC-List
I wanted to report back on progress on this job. I had sprayed the water heater anode with PB Blaster and tried again with the same pipe wrench and still no luck. Then I pulled out my bigger wrench to try. It was very difficult to find an angle to get it on in a place I could pull on, but fin

Re: Stus-List Call At 1:00pm (EST) Today!

2019-01-02 Thread David via CnC-List
Confession Time... While I have the diary for individual disbursement, the call, it seems, was not recorded. Ugh. Sorry. Highlights; * becalmed 12 hours, encountered 3 storms, never over 40 knots. * Every day sent out three or four VHF calls noting that he did not need help and if w

Re: Stus-List Using West Marine in-store swaging tool for lifelines?

2019-01-02 Thread Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List
FWIW, it may be worth comparing the price of materials and a swage tool against the cost of having an outfitting company like Rigging Only fabricate replacements. From: Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2019 8:42 AM To: C&C List Cc: Bruce Whitmore Subject: Stus-List Usi

Re: Stus-List Using West Marine in-store swaging tool for lifelines?

2019-01-02 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
You need to use a crimping tool not a swaging tool. They are different tools. They are NOT interchangeable. I have both. This is the crimp tool: https://www.defender.com/product.jsp?id=338042 You can use one of these: https://www.defender.com/product.jsp?id=1044153 With the lever style you

Re: Stus-List Using West Marine in-store swaging tool for lifelines?

2019-01-02 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
That crimper is supposed to be properly "calibrated". I say it will probably get you through in a pinch but a "proper" roller swage is IMO a better option. A lot of local boat yards, particularly those that do rigging, will have a roller swaging tool. I think you'll be much happier with the outc

Stus-List Using West Marine in-store swaging tool for lifelines?

2019-01-02 Thread Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List
Hello all, I need to replace the lifelines on my 1994 37/40+.  I am going to go with bare 7/19 wire, and need to crimp on the stud fittings.  For the hand crimp stud fittings, Johnson says not to use a nicopress tool.  West Marine's had swage tool is set to use both for oval (nicopress) fittings