Re: Stus-List Landfall 38 original list price

2018-02-15 Thread Randy Stafford via CnC-List
Well, I paid about 20% fewer dollars in 2016, for both boat and trailer, than the first purchaser paid in 1972 for the boat alone - not even considering the difference in purchasing power between a 1972 dollar and a 2016 dollar. I agree with you that what gets inflated is the money supply - the

Re: Stus-List Hard bimini?

2018-02-15 Thread bwhitmore via CnC-List
We've never felt that need.  Just curious, did that tendency arise after you put on the Dodger or is it because of the dodger you want night to improve your field of view? Thanks for all your insights, Bruce Whitmore   Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone Original message --

Re: Stus-List Hard bimini?

2018-02-15 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
Both my wife and I prefer the vantage and the bench corners tend to provide a more sturdy foot hold. Josh On Feb 15, 2018 10:32 PM, "bwhitmore via CnC-List" wrote: > Just curious Josh, whu do you stand on the benches? > > Bruce Whitmore > > > > Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone >

Re: Stus-List Hard bimini?

2018-02-15 Thread bwhitmore via CnC-List
Just curious Josh, whu do you stand on the benches? Bruce Whitmore  Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone Original message From: Josh Muckley via CnC-List Date: 2/15/18 9:59 PM (GMT-05:00) To: C&C List Cc: Josh Muckley Subject: Re: Stus-List Hard bimini? The pi

Re: Stus-List Landfall 38 original list price

2018-02-15 Thread Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List
I have the original documentation for my boat, too. Design #75-12; $124,500 U.S. Funds (1976); price includes loading for road transit or commissioning at Oakville, Ontario. From: Dreuge via CnC-List Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2018 6:12 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Dreuge Subject: Re:

Re: Stus-List Help with folding prop insights?

2018-02-15 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
My Martec runs very smoothly with a couple small harmonics at different rpm's. That's normal for nearly all drive trains. Forward power is good. I think my prop is a wee bit underpitched. I can get hull speed with a clean bottom and max rpm but only 6.4-6.5 at cruise rpm (80% max). I really ha

Re: Stus-List Hard bimini?

2018-02-15 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
The pictures in this link are my brain storming image mock ups. I stand on the benches constantly so having head room is extremely important. Of course with head room means boom interference. My imagination is that the bimini extends behind the cockpit in a reflection of the reverse transom. ht

Re: Stus-List Help with folding prop insights?

2018-02-15 Thread Bruce via CnC-List
Well, thankfully (or not) I found the pin, which is a good thing, except that it was clearly broken during the removal process. At least I have something to measure. The pin is really pretty tight in one blade, but a little sloppy on the other, so yes, it will need to be refurbished. Int

Re: Stus-List Hard Bimini

2018-02-15 Thread David Miles via CnC-List
Very nice... On February 15, 2018 14:42:17 Bruce via CnC-List wrote: Sorry, I forgot to add the link to the photo! https://www.dropbox.com/s/0rlqciawspzi1ff/Astralis%20Under%20Sail%20%28Corrected%2020131109a%29.jpg?dl=0 Kindest Regards, Bruce C. Whitmore 1994 C&C 37/40+, “Astralis”

Re: Stus-List Help with folding prop insights?

2018-02-15 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
Bruce, You're not going to get a lot of positive comments about Martec props on this list. You'll get a lot of suggestions about this prop and that prop. Having said that, I have a Martec Elliptical on Touche'. While it might not be everyone's favorite, I don't have any problems with it. Sure,

Stus-List C&C 34 for sale

2018-02-15 Thread Chuck Borge via CnC-List
Hello all, I'm putting my C&C 34 up for sale and moving up a class or two, details on the new (to me) boat to follow once I've fully committed. In the meantime, I'll be glad to talk or email more with an interested party. She's a 1978, Ontario built boat in great condition. White Awlgrip with navy

Stus-List Help with folding prop insights?

2018-02-15 Thread Bruce via CnC-List
Hello all, I have a fixed, 3 bladed prop on Astralis currently, and suspect that its slowing us down here in Florida where we just don't get the wind like we did on Lake Michigan, so we rarely see much over 12 kts or so. I'm thinking I'd like to get a little more speed out of her, and one area

Re: Stus-List Landfall 38 original list price

2018-02-15 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
Patrick, There's really only one place for those winches to be located. I think I know the answer but not 100% sure. The only clue is on the page entitled "Standard Loose Equipment". The handwritten note says "2 #26 Barlow winches". When I purchased the boat, it had Barlow 28's for the pri

Re: Stus-List Junk Email

2018-02-15 Thread M Bodnar via CnC-List
A few years back we started having problems with our emails going from my clinic server being blocked by spam filters.  I couldn't even email myself. I dug into it - it appears that someone ripped my domain name and was using it to send spam.  Enough peopl

Stus-List Junk Email

2018-02-15 Thread Stu Murray via CnC-List
Nothing has changed with our mail list program.  But your ISP that handles your email probably updated their filters on their email servers.  What was good yesterday, isn't so today. If you are using a web-based email program, you probably don't have provisions to change the filters.  If you can c

Re: Stus-List Landfall 38 original list price

2018-02-15 Thread Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List
I'd kind of disagree... Technically, boat didn't depreciate very much.  It inflation that's taking down the value of today's dollars. Depreciation is the reduction in $ value over time, and from a tax writeoff perspective, a $20,000 asset owned by a business would be written off over a specified

Re: Stus-List Landfall 38 original list price

2018-02-15 Thread Dreuge via CnC-List
Dennis, Amazing that you still have the original documentation. Thanks for sharing. Paul - Paul E. 1981 C&C 38 Landfall S/V Johanna Rose Fort Walton Beach, FL http://svjohannarose.blogspot.com/ > On Feb 15, 2018, at 4:59 PM, cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com wrote: > > Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2018

Re: Stus-List Landfall 38 original list price

2018-02-15 Thread Randy Stafford via CnC-List
According to C&C brochures that came with Grenadine, the C&C 30 MK I base price as at September 13, 1976 was $27,200. As at September 1, 1977 it had increased to $30,450. I don’t have information on how much her first owner paid for her in 1972. I’d guess ~$20,000 if the base price tracked wi

Re: Stus-List Landfall 38 original list price

2018-02-15 Thread Bruce via CnC-List
The original sale price on our 1994 C&C 37/40+ was +/- $225,000 (USD). If it weren’t for depreciation, I couldn’t afford to sail! Hoping the curve is pretty flat from here on out, Bruce C. Whitmore 1994 C&C 37/40+, “Astralis” Madeira Beach, FL 847.404.5092 bwhitm...@sbcglobal.net

Re: Stus-List Landfall 38 original list price

2018-02-15 Thread ed vanderkruk via CnC-List
I have the original bill of sale from one of the last Landfalls ( LF38 hull 229 ) commissioned out of Niagara on the Lake in 1982. I believe all-in it was close to 100k Canadian ... but would have to check the builders file on the boat. Ed On Feb 15, 2018 5:32 PM, "John Christopher via CnC-List

Re: Stus-List Hard Bimini

2018-02-15 Thread Bruce via CnC-List
Sorry, I forgot to add the link to the photo! https://www.dropbox.com/s/0rlqciawspzi1ff/Astralis%20Under%20Sail%20%28Corrected%2020131109a%29.jpg?dl=0 Kindest Regards, Bruce C. Whitmore 1994 C&C 37/40+, “Astralis” Madeira Beach, FL 847.404.5092 bwhitm...@sbcglobal.net From: Cn

Re: Stus-List Landfall 38 original list price

2018-02-15 Thread John Christopher via CnC-List
You can check out this website to compare dollars then to now. I calculated 32K (Guess) in 1979 and it calculated 109634.44 in 2017 taking inflation into account. https://westegg.com/inflation/ John - LF 38, 1983, #155 > On Feb 15, 2018, at 4:58 PM, Della Barba, Joe wrote: > > I think the

Re: Stus-List Hard Bimini

2018-02-15 Thread Bruce via CnC-List
Hello J-G, Here’s a photo of Astralis under sail (yes, I know the bimini is tilted back in the photo – the bimini on the boat was not built to exacting specifications). I’m not looking at adding a dodger as of yet, though we may get there one day. However, the main sheet in the forward

Re: Stus-List Landfall 38 original list price

2018-02-15 Thread Patrick Davin via CnC-List
Wow. That's $123,000 in today's dollars. (20k in 1971 = 123k today). Important to compare real values, not nominal values - inflation over 47 years is very significant! Still not bad, a 35' production boat today goes a bit more than that I think. Would be interesting if anyone has a 1980's number

Re: Stus-List Landfall 38 original list price

2018-02-15 Thread Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List
I think the original owners of Coquina paid $24K to buy here new in 1973 and we paid $35K in 1977. We paid $34K for our house in 1969, so I grew up thinking boat>house was a normal state of affairs. Joe Coquina C&C 35 MK I From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Denni

Re: Stus-List Landfall 38 original list price

2018-02-15 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
Paul, Doesn't answer your post but below is a link to Touche's original 1971 order from the yacht broker to Hinterhoeller. Shows a base price of $18,760 with $872 worth of options. A Landfall 10 years later would have been a wee bit more. Interesting note on Page 2, Item 81. "DO NOT install ge

Stus-List Hard Bimini

2018-02-15 Thread Jean-Guy Nadeau via CnC-List
What boat? With our 35 Mk2 we have a hard dodger and soft bimini. Because of the low boom we have to fold the bimini when under mainsail. Slower design would not give sufficient headroom in the cockpit. The boom just clears the dodger. We have solar panels mounted on the top of the bimini frame.

Re: Stus-List Landfall 38 original list price

2018-02-15 Thread bushmark4--- via CnC-List
Paul, look up the brochure on the Photo album site, frequently they have the original price lists included. Richard s/v Bushmark4; 1985 C&C 37 CB; Ohio River Richard N. Bush 2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462 502-584-7255 -Original Message-

Re: Stus-List Junk Mail

2018-02-15 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
If a list recipient who shares the same email provider as you marks a list mail as spam, then the provider may classify each and every email from the list as spam. You will then need to reclassify it as "not spam". I check my spam folder every now and then for just such a reason. Dennis C. Touch

Stus-List Landfall 38 original list price

2018-02-15 Thread Dreuge via CnC-List
Hi, I was asked a question about the Landfall 38 original list price, and I realized I had no clue. Does anyone know what they were original going for in 1981 or thereabouts? - Paul E. 1981 C&C 38 Landfall S/V Johanna Rose Fort Walton Beach, FL http://svjohannarose.blogspot.com/

Re: Stus-List Junk Mail

2018-02-15 Thread dwight veinot via CnC-List
all that I get from stus list now go to gmail spam instead of inbox...i changed nothing, just happened that way all by itself; actually I thought maybe the list closed up until I opened the spam folder Dwight Veinot C&C 35 MKII, Alianna Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS d.ve...@bellaliant.net On Mo