Rum is the answer. What was the question?
Bill Coleman
Original message
From: Jim Watts via CnC-List
Date: 12/12/2014 7:32 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: Chuck S , 1 CnC List
Subject: Re: Stus-List Annapolis/South River sail Saturday
Rum.
Jim Watts
Paradigm Shift
C&C 35 Mk I
you wrote:
I think I could be persuaded to do up new cabin soles for other listers at
$9600 each. In other words, I think $9600 is way too high. $4100 sounds about
right.
Roger that. Heck, I'll fly up on my own dime... but you'd have to put
me up in the spare bedroom. And I smoke and drink
Agreed. But my experience of boat yard bills is that are at least 2x the
estimate. Sucks. But it is.my reality. I I abide by it and it keeps my out
of trouble.
David F. Risch.
Please excuse brevity and possible typos...sent from my mobile device.
Original message From: Mic
written by our own Andrew Burton!
http://www.sailnet.com/forums/showthread.php?t=43592
Joel
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>From a procedural point of view I believe the contractor has an inescapable
responsibility to inform a client of deliverables, costs and risks in a plainly
worded contract. Unless you have given clear carte blanc ro proceed with the
job the contractor has a further responsibility to advise you of
Should be rum and bourbon on board! My dad used brandy. Tasted like cough
syrup.
Joel
On Friday, December 12, 2014, Paul Fountain via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
> Rum ... Preferably somewhere warm .. Grenada
>
> Sent from my iPad
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> On Dec 12, 2014, at 5:56 PM, Chuck S via C
Rum ... Preferably somewhere warm .. Grenada
Sent from my iPad
On Dec 12, 2014, at 5:56 PM, Chuck S via CnC-List
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
Joel,
What a great offer. 46 degree weather, but I'd love to join you for a sailing
fix. I'll let you know later tonight.
I'll bring some
Since I'm not paying for it...
Goslings Old Rum.
David F. Risch.
Please excuse brevity and possible typos...sent from my mobile device.
Original message From: Jim Watts via CnC-List
Date:12/12/2014 7:32 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: Chuck S , 1 CnC List
Subject: Re: Stus-List Annap
Rum.
Jim Watts
Paradigm Shift
C&C 35 Mk III
Victoria, BC
On 12 December 2014 at 14:56, Chuck S via CnC-List
wrote:
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> Joel,
> What a great offer. 46 degree weather, but I'd love to join you for a
> sailing fix. I'll let you know later tonight.
> I'll bring some snacks and my homemade chilli as
Steve,
I'm sorry if this post is a repeat. I included a couple of photos with my
original post which are omitted here.
I too just replaced the cabin sole in my 30 MKII. I'm no professional
carpenter, so I took my time. Though I thought it was a big job (and one that I
probably wouldn't want
Steve,
I’m in the process of replacing my cabin sole, for the 2nd time stupidly, and
this sounds very high for that sort of a job. The others have calculated the
costs and I am in agreement with their totals, around $4,200 to rebuild a cabin
sole of the size in a 41. And I’m disturbed that some
Joel,
What a great offer. 46 degree weather, but I'd love to join you for a sailing
fix. I'll let you know later tonight.
I'll bring some snacks and my homemade chilli as a warmup. I guess Kahlua or
Bailey's would be better in coffee or cocoa than cold beer?
Maybe the cold weather sailors wou
Steve,
You may get a better price if you offer to pay cash?
Boatyards charge owners $90/hr but pay their guys less than $30/hr, so there is
a lot of wiggle room. I had the yard replace a keel, big job done on my boat,
and the yard recalculated the workman's hourly cost to their cost. I worked
5-10 yeas ago I had the sole replaced in my 36XL/kcb with a teak and holly
veneer on a plywood substrate (I think--I know it was not solid teak and holly.
The old sole was removed, used for a template and new ones cut, etc. and
installed for about $2000.
Initially I asked the yard for the co
I replaced my cabin sole on my 36 with European grade teak and holly plywood
last winter. Did work myself. Used old for patterns, did work 425 miles from
boat and all fit like a glove.
Paid about 280 a sheet for ply, pick up at distributor. Needed two sheets.
Applied epoxy to bottom and si
Sounds like there's a need for KY Jelly!
On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 1:35 PM, Burt Stratton via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
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> Steve, Wow!
>
>
>
> I’m curious where the $4,100 expectation came from. That is a huge
> difference. The cost of having professionals do any marine work is alway
Steve, Wow!
I’m curious where the $4,100 expectation came from. That is a huge difference.
The cost of having professionals do any marine work is always a little
surprising to me but this does seem high unless there were significant
unanticipated challenges associated with the work. In that
I'd assume a mistake and question the bill. You can also ask for backup and
they should be able to give you the hours by day. Where did you come up with
the $4100 figure. Did they estimate that to you? If so I'd think they owe
you at least a good explanation of how the price could more than
I paid about $1,200 in materials for a holly+teak sole for my 33' last summer.
A friend and I did the work (actually he did most of it). I was told that the
cost would be about $5,000 if I hired someone.
So your materials cost seems a bit low and labour seems a bit high. $5 - $6k
might be r
Hi Steve
The yard should of given you a written estimate prior to the work being done.
If the yard was working on a T/M basis I would ask for the details in what they
did their may have been fiberglass repairs in addition to the wood repairs.
Good luck
Brian Donovan
112 Frisbee Hill Rd
H
Ouch!
If labor is 8600 (expensive varnish?), at $80 an hour it is over 100
hours. At $40 an hour, it is over 200 hours. Did they use hand saws and
rasps? Sounds ridiculous for a mediocre job!
Joel
On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 4:00 PM, steve via CnC-List
wrote:
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> I acquired a 1984 C&C 41 earlier
I acquired a 1984 C&C 41 earlier this year that had a been on the hard for
a couple of years. The boat's in pretty good shape and surveyed out
nicely. However, it was left with standing water in the bilges. The
freeze/thaw cycle completely destroyed the cabin sole so I needed to
replace it.
The
Robert
It won't hurt to use a diesel fuel additive...I get my diesel at a busy car
/ truck stop and add Stanadyne which is supposed to increase lubricity of
the fuel...can't say if adding Stanadyne has changed anything about how my
diesel perfroms because it has always run very smooth with good po
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