Re: Stus-List Battery Setup - now Solar Charging

2012-08-24 Thread Colin Kilgour
Two key things with solar 1, Get an MPPT regulator - makes a huge difference in charging efficiency. 2. Get the panels in direct sunlight. - even having a shadow the thickness of the boom across a 4' long panel will take away about 60% of the amps/watts you get out of it. My mizzen boom sometim

Re: Stus-List Battery Setup

2012-08-24 Thread dwight veinot
I don't expect that any 20-30 HP inboard gas or diesel engine in warm enough for sailing conditions would require significant cranking amps to start. Is it high enough and long enough duration to damage a deep cycle battery? I think the glow plug probably draws more current than the starter but

Re: Stus-List Battery Setup - now Solar Charging

2012-08-24 Thread Steve Thomas
This woman has the coolest mounting for her solar panels that I have ever seen. Something I might want to duplicate some day. The rest of the video is a description and example of a well designed system in use, along with some general comments about solar and wind power on sailboats. Rebecca has

Re: Stus-List Battery Setup

2012-08-24 Thread Russ & Melody
Hi Danny, I am the lucky recipient of a 95 watt Carmanah solar kit at our West Coast C&C rendezvous. The quality of the kit is excellent and is easily expandable (I have yet to install it). It includes a "smart" regulator that can charge the different types of batteries and has an automatic eq

Re: Stus-List Battery Setup

2012-08-24 Thread John Russo
Danny, I am also docked without power and would offer the following. Deep cycle batteries don't like big draws to start engines but can take deep discharges over time. They also take a longer time to charge and it sounds like you have the right regulator to produce a shaped charge which is heavy t

Re: Stus-List Battery Setup

2012-08-24 Thread Nate Flesness
On the K.I.S.S. model, while on a mooring I installed just a 10 watt solar panel to keep my batteries topped up, I read that with a charge rate of less than 1 amp I didn't need a regulator, and have had happy charged batteries with no problems for the last 6 years for a total investment of ~$100.

Re: Stus-List Battery Setup

2012-08-24 Thread djhaug...@juno.com
ahh. So, I'd like to use the current battery as the start battery and get 2 new ones to use as a house bank. You know, so, they are the same age same usage same same? And for the next week or 2 I think I'll just do the switching myself and research some more on a better charging setup. -

Re: Stus-List Battery Setup

2012-08-24 Thread djhaug...@juno.com
Thats good info...So, even though the deep cells start the engine fine, it's not really the greatest idea to use them that way? I would like to go with a solar charging system and some recommendations would be great! -- Original Message -- From: "Marek Dziedzic" To: Subject:

Re: Stus-List Battery Setup

2012-08-24 Thread Della Barba, Joe
I used to be a battery dealer. You can feel free to start engines from deep cycle batteries. It won't hurt them. They are just relatively large and heavy for a given CCA or MCCA ( (marine)cold cranking amperage). My start battery is a U1 size. You can pick it up in one hand. Joe Della Barba Fr

Re: Stus-List Battery Setup

2012-08-24 Thread Marek Dziedzic
The main reason for a separate starting and house batteries is that they are of different type (construction). the starting battery is supposed to give you high output (100A ?) for a short time, but it hates to be discharged. he house battery should be deep -cycle, I.e. it allows to be discharge

Re: Stus-List c&c smile and insurance

2012-08-24 Thread Della Barba, Joe
There are two theories of insurance: 1 – You want a company experienced with maritime insurance. They’ll understand the differences between getting a rig replaced and a new fender on a car. 2 – You want a company that has no clue at all about offshore sailboats and is dumb enough to pay for anyth

Re: Stus-List c&c smile and insurance

2012-08-24 Thread Indigo
I have had ACE as my carrier for 10 years. Have had only one claim in 10 years – where they paid for keel / stub separation to be repaired! That, by itself, “paid” for 10 years of potentially higher premiums (never actually shopped around) Jonathan – Indigo – 35MkIII – Southport CT

Re: Stus-List Battery Setup

2012-08-24 Thread David Risch
Look into Balmar's Digital Duo. Make life simple. 1981 40-2 David F. Risch (401) 419-4650 cell -Original Message- From: djhaug...@juno.com Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2012 13:23:13 To: Subject: Stus-List Battery Setup Okay, I'm out on th

Re: Stus-List Hot water heater

2012-08-24 Thread Joel Aronson
Dwight, The only thermostat I have is in the engine and I get lots of hot water. I've never seen an external thermostat, but they might exist. Are you getting good pressure? I'd start with the suggestion of feeling the input and output hoses to see if there is a difference in temp. There should n

Re: Stus-List Battery Setup

2012-08-24 Thread dwight veinot
Danny I have similar setup to what you plan, except I have 2 six volt golf cart batteries connected in series for house bank and one group 27 deep cycle for starting a 4 cylinder diesel. Worked fine for me four about 5 years now. I never charge both batteries from the alternator at the same tim

Re: Stus-List Battery Setup

2012-08-24 Thread Della Barba, Joe
I too am on a mooring. First off - GET SOLAR. I have had fantastic results with my 25 watt solar cell and Morningstar charge controller. It is really nice to know you can leave the boat and come back to topped off batteries. Second - The reason for two batteries is nothing to do with deep cycle

Re: Stus-List Hot water heater

2012-08-24 Thread dwight veinot
My boat has a separate pair of coolant lines for the heat exchanger and a separate pair of coolant lines for the hot water tank, (supply and return lines for each), that is. So by closing the manual valve that I installed to the heat exchanger, the engine's internal coolant pump is forced to send

Re: Stus-List Hot water heater

2012-08-24 Thread Gosse, Rob
Drain your tanks and see how much rust comes out of it. Mine was plugged. -Original Message- From: cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Prime Interest Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 10:17 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Hot w

Stus-List Battery Setup

2012-08-24 Thread djhaug...@juno.com
Okay, I'm out on the mooring and the only way of charging my batteries right now is the engine. I currently only have a single battery installed but, I want to add 2 more. The current battery I got last year, brand new and it has seen little use. It is a deep cycle marine battery. I was thin

Re: Stus-List Hot water heater

2012-08-24 Thread Prime Interest
Checking the in-flow and out-flow hose temperature to the heater by hand might eliminate a couple of possibilities. You can compare the temperature relative to the engine hose coming into the engine thermostat. There is a possibility that there is a vapor lock in the heater hose - depending on th

Re: Stus-List Hot water heater

2012-08-24 Thread Gosse, Rob
Water in Mahone Bay is around the 22 degrees Celsius mark these days. From: cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Chuck S Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 10:13 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Hot water heater Dwight, We have the same

Re: Stus-List Hot water heater

2012-08-24 Thread Chuck S
Dwight, We have the same engine, Universal M4-30 and I find engine temperature tends to run low, especially when the sea water is below 70F, or the engine is idling. If I idle at the dock, the temperature rises to 165 but I don't see the engine temperature reach the normal 190F unless I put som

Re: Stus-List Edson Steering System

2012-08-24 Thread HONEYSAIL
Good luck Bill. The key is a longer tiller handle. Thankfully, ET installation on the 39 is very simple.. Brgds Jack In a message dated 8/24/2012 8:48:22 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, colt...@verizon.net writes: I see. I was thinking your old rudder was what made it so tough, didn

Re: Stus-List Hot water heater

2012-08-24 Thread djhaug...@juno.com
Dwight, Greg Just some insights to consider...I hope it helps A thermostat would regulate the flow of heating fluid to the hot water tank. I'm not sure of your setup, but it sounds like you may have a hot water tank with a heating water coil submerged in the tank that the engine coolant runs

Re: Stus-List Hot water heater

2012-08-24 Thread Gosse, Rob
Does the coolant-into-the-heater loop have its own impellor or is it the standard engine coolant pump? Is it shot? Did the tank suddenly stop producing hot water, or slowly get cooler? How is it when hooked to shore power and is AC heated? It's obviously not an element if heating from shore power

Re: Stus-List Edson Steering System

2012-08-24 Thread Bill Coleman
I see. I was thinking your old rudder was what made it so tough, didn’t realise you had updated. My previous rudder (not original) had the center of the shaft 3” from the leading edge. When I made the third iteration, I made it 5 inches from the leading edge. Much more balanced. I will have

Re: Stus-List Hot water heater

2012-08-24 Thread Rich Knowles
Dwight: I was referring to the engine coolant thermostat. If that fails open, the engine water temperature will be much lower than normal and so will any heat exchanged water. I have no idea what other mysteries you may have in your particular system. A second thermostat would be unusual. Ric

Re: Stus-List c&c smile and insurance

2012-08-24 Thread djhaug...@juno.com
I got the insurance company wrong...Heritage is an Insurance broker. The actual Insurance company is ACE recreational marine insurance. Sorry for the confusion.Does anyone have Ace as their insurance company -- Original Message -- From: "djhaug...@juno.com" To: cnc-list@cnc-li

Re: Stus-List Hot water heater

2012-08-24 Thread dwight veinot
Rich The hot water on my boat is also heated by the engine coolant, which passes through a coil in the hot water tank. I have installed a manual valve in the coolant line from the engine to the salt water heat exchanger. I can adjust that valve to control the flow of coolant to the hot water tan

Re: Stus-List Hot water heater

2012-08-24 Thread djhaug...@juno.com
What type of system is heating your water. Electric element in a tank? Heat exchanger off the engine? -- Original Message -- From: "Greg Sutherland " To: "CandC " Subject: Stus-List Hot water heater Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2012 01:57:23 + We are anchored off of Masons island i