Re: [clug-talk] Are we that na?ve?

2013-12-20 Thread Gustin Johnson
Just to play devils advocate, who says that privacy ever really existed? Before there was widespread urbanization people tended to live in small communities. Word travels fast in those small communities so there tended to not be a lot of secrets. Urbanization has given us the illusion of anonymi

Re: [clug-talk] Are we that naïve?

2013-12-20 Thread Gustin Johnson
Technology is a force multiplier. The advantage is always with those with the most power. To think that technology is a great equalizer is a mistake. Take the gun for example. You might might think that it levels the playing field, but I very much doubt that you would think that when a few doze

Re: [clug-talk] Protecting ourselves from the NSA

2013-12-20 Thread Jon Copeland
That was extremely interesting, and even though common sense amongst the more security conscientious, still enlightening enough to warrant doing something about it. /.j On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 5:19 PM, Greg King wrote: > Bruce Schneier, Fellow, Berkman Center for Internet and Society, spoke at

Re: [clug-talk] Are we that naïve?

2013-12-20 Thread Chris
Using the threat of a terrorist attack to justify mass surveillance is pure bunk. Can anyone tell me how listening in on Angela Merkel's personal phone calls prevented a terrorist attack. It's precisely those with nothing to hide who need to stand up and fight this infringement on our persona

Re: [clug-talk] Merry Xmass

2013-12-20 Thread Mel Walters
I did not suggest one. It was Daniel who suggested Python for what Michael (a clug member) asked what would be best for his small project. To my knowledge Daniel has not joined the clug mailing lists yet, but he came up with some good advice for Michael (similar to previous advice by others in the

Re: [clug-talk] January meeting

2013-12-20 Thread Mel Walters
Michael is the only one to respond so far.? I was thinking of more of a social event so close to the holidays, but technical talk is OK too and could likely happen. Ideas? My main point will be, are we going ahead with a meeting on Jan 8th? If we are weathered out OR there is a lack of intere