Regarding first incubator report

2012-05-02 Thread Alex Karasulu
Hi all, I hope all of you are having fun here after the move. I'd like to take this opportunity to welcome everyone. The community is very lively and effective in participating on the mailing lists. Infrastructure work to get fully situated is moving along. All signs are positive IMO. As you may

RE: user credntials

2012-05-02 Thread Abhinandan Prateek
We need to transition to plaintext password, any encoding for the internal or third party authentication system will happen in the adapter. To transition we will have an additional parameter in the auth API so that it can be clearly documented and does not confuse or break the existing cloudstac

RE: Regarding first incubator report

2012-05-02 Thread Kevin Kluge
Hi Alex, glad to hear you think the community is working well. We followed the template that was pre-existing and added content to it. Personally I think it's fine, but this is my first involvement in producing this report so would certainly appreciate feedback. -kevin > -Original Mess

Add zone -- why hypervisor

2012-05-02 Thread Kevin Kluge
When you add a zone in 3.0.x there is a field for Hypervisor. Why is that?

RE: Add zone -- why hypervisor

2012-05-02 Thread Salvatore Orlando
I believe it is used as a default setting for all clusters in the zone. But then you are still free to override that setting for specific clusters. Salvatore > -Original Message- > From: Kevin Kluge [mailto:kevin.kl...@citrix.com] > Sent: 02 May 2012 14:06 > To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.a

Re: Regarding first incubator report

2012-05-02 Thread Alex Karasulu
Hi Kevin, On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 3:54 PM, Kevin Kluge wrote: > Hi Alex, glad to hear you think the community is working well. We > followed the template that was pre-existing and added content to it. > Personally I think it's fine, but this is my first involvement in producing > this report so

Re: Add zone -- why hypervisor

2012-05-02 Thread Alena Prokharchyk
Because you have to setup hypervisor network labels that will be configured on the host which you also add as a part of add zone process. -Alena. On 5/2/12 6:06 AM, "Kevin Kluge" wrote: >When you add a zone in 3.0.x there is a field for Hypervisor. Why is >that?

Re: Add zone -- why hypervisor

2012-05-02 Thread Alena Prokharchyk
Not quite correct. It's used as a hypervisor for the first cluster you setup during "Add zone". It defines the hypervisor type for the host and network labels that you also setup during the add zone process. We don't use this setting as default anywhere else after the zone is created. -Alena. On

RE: Add zone -- why hypervisor

2012-05-02 Thread Kevin Kluge
Alena are you saying this is needed for the physical network step? Or only in the add-cluster step at the end? I find the current placement and text quite confusing. It sounds like I am saying this zone will be of this hypervisor type, which I know is not true. > -Original Message-

Re: Add zone -- why hypervisor

2012-05-02 Thread Alena Prokharchyk
Kevin, We use it for both: 1) Add the first cluster in the zone 2) Configure network labels for the first cluster's hypervisor (physical network page) Hypervisor network labels have to be configured before we add the first host to the cluster. I can see why the placement might seem confusing,

RE: user credntials

2012-05-02 Thread Kevin Kluge
Will, I think Abhi and David and I are all in sync -- telling people that they need to know how a given cloud is taking passwords is really broken. I can't think of any precedent for this in any other software I've seen with pluggable auth backends. If I were a client developer and faced with

RE: Add zone -- why hypervisor

2012-05-02 Thread Will Chan
It's only there to assist with the network configuration. We need to know the first hypervisors you are going to add to a brand new zone. From there, we tailor the rest of the wizard. Once the first zone has been created, you can add additional hypervisors separately. If we did not do this,

RE: user credntials

2012-05-02 Thread Will Chan
I am not disagreeing with the idea that anyone that is creating an app using our session-based auth would be "broken" due to the fact they may not be able to pass in the correct password format. My point is that we support a flexible authentication scheme which allows the cloud operator or ente

CloudStack Bootcamp - My thoughts

2012-05-02 Thread Matt Hogstrom
I weent to the CloudStack Bootcamp today as I was in town for some other things and I have to tip the hat to the Citrix folks for their gracious use of their space for the meeting. I met folks that had flown in from a number of locales (Japan was the farthest I know of). Also, there were a lot

RE: Add zone -- why hypervisor

2012-05-02 Thread Kevin Kluge
Would it be possible to take in the information for the creation of the first cluster (obviously including hypervisor type), then go into physical network with that information? If we can't do that, or it's just unnatural, I think we should change the label of this field at a minimum. > ---

RE: Add zone -- why hypervisor

2012-05-02 Thread Will Chan
Yeah, we can certainly do that. Sonny, can you work on a slightly different version of the wizard to move the addCluster to before the network portion? If it's not much to change, we can add that to Bonita, otherwise Burbank. Will From: Kevin Kluge [

Re: CloudStack Bootcamp - My thoughts

2012-05-02 Thread David Nalley
On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 8:47 PM, Matt Hogstrom wrote: > I weent to the CloudStack Bootcamp today as I was in town for some other > things and I have to tip the hat to the Citrix folks for their gracious use > of their space for the meeting.  I met folks that had flown in from a number > of local

Re: CloudStack Bootcamp - My thoughts

2012-05-02 Thread David Nalley
On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 1:09 AM, David Nalley wrote: > On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 8:47 PM, Matt Hogstrom wrote: >> I weent to the CloudStack Bootcamp today as I was in town for some other >> things and I have to tip the hat to the Citrix folks for their gracious use >> of their space for the meeting

RE: CloudStack Bootcamp - My thoughts

2012-05-02 Thread Kevin Kluge
Matt, thanks much for your attendance. This was a great introduction to Apache for the attendees. We'll continue with day two tomorrow. All are welcome, even if you missed the first day. The second day will be more code-oriented. -kevin > -Original Message- > From: Matt Hogstrom