RE: system VM out of CloudStack

2012-07-20 Thread Sheng Liang
> That could be ultimate goal, and it's totally reflects "unix way" - don't use > one huge universal tool, rather - set of small, > but dedicated to particular task tools. As for now i see that CS is big > monolithic complex, with tons internal, non-exposed dependencies. I agree. Making the co

Re: system VM out of CloudStack

2012-07-20 Thread Daniel Mezentsev
s Cc: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: system VM out of CloudStack Agree, as any changes it will create some level of complexity - but question is - is that solution better then existing one ? Even for multi-zone deployment it's easier to keep separate pool of VMs of the same type, th

RE: system VM out of CloudStack

2012-07-18 Thread Kelcey Damage (BBITS)
55 East 7th Ave Vancouver - BC Canada V5T 1M4 kel...@bbits.ca | 604-331-1152 ext. 114 -Original Message- From: Edison Su [mailto:edison...@citrix.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2012 1:36 PM To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org; Kelceydamage@bbits Subject: RE: system VM out of CloudStack

RE: system VM out of CloudStack

2012-07-18 Thread Edison Su
> -Original Message- > From: d...@soleks.com [mailto:d...@soleks.com] > Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2012 10:56 AM > To: Kelceydamage@bbits > Cc: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org > Subject: Re: system VM out of CloudStack > > Agree, as any changes it will create

Re: system VM out of CloudStack

2012-07-18 Thread dan
Agree, as any changes it will create some level of complexity - but question is - is that solution better then existing one ? Even for multi-zone deployment it's easier to keep separate pool of VMs of the same type, then to have deep hierarchy inside zone. In additional That system VMs (especial

Re: system VM out of CloudStack

2012-07-18 Thread Kelceydamage@bbits
I think I see your point, however would that not pose a large increase in logistics for huge multi-zone deployments? What if it were an optional feature. One could choose to abstract the system VMs from the cloud, but was not forced to? Sent from my iPhone On Jul 18, 2012, at 10:31 AM, d...@so

Re: system VM out of CloudStack

2012-07-18 Thread dan
Yep, like management servers running on the stand-alone hosts, or they are VMs on the separate infrastructure. > By "Will it be good idea to move that VMs out of CloudStack" do you > mean onto separate infrastructure? As in a non-managed hypervisor, or > bare-metal? > > Sent from my iPhone > >

Re: system VM out of CloudStack

2012-07-18 Thread Kelceydamage@bbits
By "Will it be good idea to move that VMs out of CloudStack" do you mean onto separate infrastructure? As in a non-managed hypervisor, or bare-metal? Sent from my iPhone On Jul 18, 2012, at 10:20 AM, d...@soleks.com wrote: > Hi all, > > System VMs - SSVM and CPVM- both are critical components

system VM out of CloudStack

2012-07-18 Thread dan
Hi all, System VMs - SSVM and CPVM- both are critical components for CloudStack infrastructure, and as everybody probably noticed there are a lot of questions related to that VMs. Will it be good idea to move that VMs out of CloudStack, so they will be fully segregated from the cloud controlle