Agree, as any changes it will create some level of complexity - but question is 
- is that solution better then existing one ? Even for multi-zone deployment 
it's easier to keep separate pool of VMs of the same type, then to have deep 
hierarchy inside zone. In additional That system VMs (especially CPVM) can be 
behind loadbalancer, so it will be really beneficial for environment with big 
number of console sessions, and it can be scaled pretty easy.

> I think I see your point, however would that not pose a large 
> increase in logistics for huge multi-zone deployments?
>
> What if it were an optional feature. One could choose to abstract the 
> system VMs from the cloud, but was not forced to?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jul 18, 2012, at 10:31 AM, d...@soleks.com wrote:
>
>> Yep, like management servers running on the stand-alone hosts, or 
>> they are VMs on the separate infrastructure.
>>
>> > By "Will it be good idea to move that VMs out of CloudStack" do you
>> > mean onto separate infrastructure? As in a non-managed hypervisor, or
>> > bare-metal?
>> >
>> > Sent from my iPhone
>> >
>> > On Jul 18, 2012, at 10:20 AM, d...@soleks.com wrote:
>> >
>> >> Hi all,
>> >>
>> >> System VMs - SSVM and CPVM- both are critical components for
>> >> CloudStack infrastructure, and as everybody probably noticed there
>> >> are a lot of questions related to that VMs. Will it be good idea to
>> >> move that VMs out of CloudStack, so they will be fully segregated
>> >> from the cloud controlled by CS and from user's VMs. Eventually
>> >> Cloudstack System will be - System Environment  - Management Hosts
>> >> (or VMs), SS Hosts (or VMs) and CP Hosts (or VMs) and Users
>> >> Environment - Computational Hosts, VMs and Storage. Any thoughts
>> >> about it ?
>> >>
>> >> Dan/borei.
>> >>
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