On 03/20/2013 12:19 PM, Prasanna Santhanam wrote:
On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 02:19:57PM +0530, Prasanna Santhanam wrote:
On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 01:45:46PM +0530, prasanna wrote:
On 13 March 2013 12:56, Pradeep Soundararajan
wrote:
David,
I did not come across this issue "cpio: Bad magic" eve
On 03/19/2013 01:37 PM, Prasanna Santhanam wrote:
On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 05:11:19PM +0530, Prasanna Santhanam wrote:
On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 12:26:30PM +0100, Wido den Hollander wrote:
Hi,
On 03/18/2013 07:53 AM, Prasanna Santhanam wrote:
On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 05:25:21PM +0530, Wido den
Hi,
On 03/18/2013 07:53 AM, Prasanna Santhanam wrote:
On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 05:25:21PM +0530, Wido den Hollander wrote:
Hi,
In the last meeting my #action was to merge the Debian packaging commits
from master into 4.1, but I didn't get around doing so.
I found some more time to test i
On 03/15/2013 05:06 PM, Donal Lafferty wrote:
Is it fair to say that upgrades are managed by the administrator?
Yes, but it could be done by Puppet or Chef.
It sounds like the admin needs to take the host offline, pull the updated
packages and restart the service.
Depends on what the adm
sting 4.1 install (without the patches), the VMs
were undefined on shutdown as they should be.
commit 5dfcd309f10e5bd6a918f7fdff3f44a3dff2374a
Author: Wido den Hollander
Date: Thu Feb 7 22:58:20 2013 +0100
agent: Do not define domains persistent in libvirt
We used to define domain
On 03/14/2013 06:33 PM, Edison Su wrote:
The uuid is a shortcut to find out local storage, when restart cloud-agent. I
agree, we should only take a look at local.storage.path, instead of uuid.
Seems like a good thing to do. Since that would make the configuration
on the agent even easier.
W
r
Commit: cd65d26a931fb4599cc9831a33a52cd5a2759a42
Parents: 97d2e3f
Author: Wido den Hollander
Authored: Wed Mar 13 20:25:49 2013 +0100
Committer: Wido den Hollander
Committed: Wed Mar 13 21:25:18 2013 +0100
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Hi,
In the last meeting my #action was to merge the Debian packaging commits
from master into 4.1, but I didn't get around doing so.
I found some more time to test it all and it seems the packages are
working pretty well.
The package I tested mainly was the agent package, but the others sho
+1
On 03/11/2013 06:37 PM, Edison Su wrote:
+1
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Sent: Monday, March 11, 2013 9:42 AM
To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org
Subject: [VOTE] Graduate Apache CloudStack from the Incubator
Hi,
I would like to invi
Op 9-3-2013 7:35, Pranav Saxena schreef:
Applied to 4.1 . Thanks for the patch !
Why only to 4.1? This should go into master first and then cherry-pick
to 4.1
Otherwise we'll loose the change for 4.2 and so on.
Wido
CLOUDSTACK-1201 - Fix update to cloud user's home dir on mgmt
serve
:
[marcus@www2 modules]$ ls -l /etc/httpd/modules
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 29 Apr 17 2012 /etc/httpd/modules ->
../../usr/lib64/httpd/modules
On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 8:47 AM, David Nalley wrote:
On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 10:20 AM, Marcus Sorensen wrote:
On Mar 6, 2013 8:04 AM, "Wido den Hollander
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Review request for cloudstack and Wido den Hollander.
Description
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Changes isolated to the deb package build files, to fix
failure to start management server from
On 03/06/2013 09:03 AM, Dave Cahill wrote:
Moving discussion from Jira ticket to dev list as suggested by Hugo.
Request from Kawai-san:
There is no place to put plugin jar files for cloudstack agent program
now, while management server program has default @PLUGINJAVADIR@ where
plugin classes w
On 03/06/2013 02:42 AM, Alex Huang wrote:
With the discussion in the BVT thread and other evidence from the check-ins, I
think there are some confusion on when to and what to write in a unit test.
Unit tests are a philosophy thing and I usually stay away from things like
that. If you are inte
On 03/05/2013 07:28 PM, Edison Su wrote:
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From: Marcus Sorensen [mailto:shadow...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, March 04, 2013 10:26 PM
To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] getting rid of KVM patchdisk
I've been thinking about how to tackle thi
? Since the
logfile fixes are already in master.
Best practice is to check master first and cherry pick stuff to 4.1
- Wido den Hollander
On March 2, 2013, 1:55 p.m., Noa Resare wrote:
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Congrats Marcus! Welcome on board :)
On 03/01/2013 06:27 PM, David Nalley wrote:
Hi folks
The Podling Project Management Committee (PPMC) for Apache CloudStack has
asked Marcus to become a member of the PPMC and we are pleased to announce
that he has accepted.
Please join me in congratulating
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I'm not
, but I can't seem to find any real issues.
Waiting on Hugo to do his final review.
- Wido den Hollander
On March 1, 2013, 7:46 a.m., Dave Cahill wrote:
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Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2013 3:05 PM
To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: [ACS41]Unable to shrink volumes of type QCOW2
On 02/28/2013 07:39 AM, Marcus Sorensen wrote:
On Wed, Feb 27, 2013
On 02/28/2013 07:39 AM, Marcus Sorensen wrote:
On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 6:58 AM, Wido den Hollander wrote:
On 02/27/2013 12:45 PM, Sailaja Mada wrote:
Hi,
Out of my curiosity , I tried to resize the volume with shrink option set
to true . It failed to resize volume from 20 GB to 10 GB
Hello all,
The Podling Project Management Committee (PPMC) for Apache CloudStack
has asked Noa Resare to become a committer and we are pleased to
announce that he has accepted.
Being a committer enables easier contribution to the project since there
is no need to go via the patch submission
On 02/27/2013 12:45 PM, Sailaja Mada wrote:
Hi,
Out of my curiosity , I tried to resize the volume with shrink option set to
true . It failed to resize volume from 20 GB to 10 GB . This is with KVM 6.3
hypervisor. Do we have support this feature with KVM ?
2013-02-27 17:01:55,052 DEBUG [clou
Hi Paul,
On 02/27/2013 10:21 AM, Paul Sanders wrote:
Hello All,
I wondered if anyone could shed some light on an issue I am having when
compiling cloud stack from source. I have now failed to get this built 10 +
times and I must be missing something very basic.
1) I have downloaded '*apache-cl
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Wido den Hollander commented on CLOUDSTACK-1415:
Patch looks
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Ship It!
- Wido den Hollander
On Feb. 26, 2013, 8:52
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Wido den Hollander commented on CLOUDSTACK-1421:
So my point is
Wido den Hollander created CLOUDSTACK-1410:
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Summary: Overcommit feature breaks compatibility between 4.0/4.1
management server and 4.2 agent
Key: CLOUDSTACK-1410
URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira
to bumping the java version to 7, and it seems
like that might make working with distros / packages difficult.
Adding Alex and Frank to the CC to get their take.
On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 12:23:39PM +0100, Wido den Hollander wrote:
Hi,
So the last couple of days the master branch wouldn
Hi,
So the last couple of days the master branch wouldn't build on my systems:
[INFO] Apache CloudStack Framework - IPC . FAILURE [1.874s]
...
...
[INFO]
[ERROR] Failed to execute goal
org.apache.maven.plu
Hi Rohit,
On 02/25/2013 02:51 AM, Rohit Yadav wrote:
Hi Animesh, Joe, Alex and everyone,
I just wanted to reach out to all of you and the community about the
recent thread. I messed up while making a point even though I never
wanted to disrespect, disregard or discredit anyone, I ended up doing
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Ship it!
Ship It!
- Wido den Hollander
On Feb. 22, 2013, 10:36
On 02/21/2013 09:47 AM, Hugo Trippaers wrote:
Awsome that we can have two summits in one year!
I do have a slight preference to do the Europe summit earlier in the year. I
believe CloudStack is gaining a lot of momentum in Europa and having a summit
here good pull a lot of people it that woul
+1 Seems like a good way
On 02/20/2013 08:08 PM, Chip Childers wrote:
Hi all,
During the irc meeting today, Joe suggested that I email the dev list
with instructions for how I'd like to handle making changes into
the 4.1 branch after the end of the month.
Per our 4.1 release schedule [1], the
gt;<mailto:ja...@rubixnet.co
m<mailto:ja...@rubixnet.com>><mailto:ja...@rubixnet.com<mailto:jason@r
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wrote:
So is there anyway to make this work today or will I have to wait until this is
proper
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Wido den Hollander commented on CLOUDSTACK-1301:
Forgot this
.@rubixnet.com>>>
wrote:
So is there anyway to make this work today or will I have to wait
until this is properly implemented? This may mean I need to take
another look at openstack or opennebula and switch back.
On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 9:00 AM, Wido den Hollander
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Wido den Hollander commented on CLOUDSTACK-1301:
Yeah, but not
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Wido den Hollander commented on CLOUDSTACK-1302:
I wouldn
On 02/15/2013 11:11 PM, Frank Zhang wrote:
Current name convention of class variable in CloudStack is prefixing variable
name with a '_', for example
Class SomeManagerImpl {
private long _myVar;
}
I know this is widely spread convention but I really think it's dated. First time I saw
On 02/15/2013 08:03 PM, Edison Su wrote:
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Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 6:39 AM
To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org
Cc: John Burwell (jburw...@basho.com); Mike
Tutkowski (mike.tutkow...@solidfire.com
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Discussion w
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Wido den Hollander commented on CLOUDSTACK-449:
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Wido den Hollander commented on CLOUDSTACK-1301:
I already made
ory which you use to
replace the /usr/share/java/cloud-plugin-hypervisor-kvm.jar on your
production systems.
Wido
On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 9:00 AM, Wido den Hollander wrote:
On 02/15/2013 02:31 PM, Jason Villalta wrote:
Is there any way easy way to make this setting dependent on the
stor
On 02/15/2013 02:31 PM, Jason Villalta wrote:
Is there any way easy way to make this setting dependent on the
storage definition? For example some primary storage may need this
set to one value such as cache=writeback such as with the case of ZFS,
GlusterFS, CEPH. Then other storage may want a
, so I'll let this up to
him.
>From what I understand, package.sh hasn't been used that much.
- Wido den Hollander
On Feb. 12, 2013, 12:16 p.m., Pradeep Soundararajan wrote:
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Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2013 10:31 PM
To: 'Marcus Sorensen'; Wido den Hollander
Cc: Chip Childers; David Nalley; Alex Huang; Pradeep Soundararajan;
cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org
Subject: RE: [DISCUSS] Packaging in 4.1
Hey Marcus,
I haven't updated package.sh
, but
no release is out there with the patches in it.
Wido
Could you please confirm?
-Thanks
Sangeetha
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Sent: Monday, February 04, 2013 3:39 AM
To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: [MERGE] Support VM
see when we go along.
Wido
Cheers,
Hugo
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From: Chip Childers [mailto:chip.child...@sungard.com]
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2013 2:39 AM
To: David Nalley
Cc: Alex Huang; Pradeep Soundararajan; Wido den Hollander; cloudstack-
d...@incubator.apache.org
Subjec
On 02/08/2013 07:23 PM, Joe Brockmeier wrote:
Hey all,
So - my initial plan was to shoot for monthly point releases, assuming
that we had enough bugfixes, etc. to roll into a point release.
Obviously, it took a bit longer than that to get the first one out the
door.
We have a few things that
Hi,
On 02/09/2013 04:41 AM, Ram Ganesh wrote:
Hi,
I would like to propose following features which are at various stages in
the review board(hit review board by Jan 31st) for inclusion into 4.1
release.
CLOUDSTACK-713 Limit Resources to domain/accounts
- Achieved "Ship it" status but not sur
Hi,
On 02/08/2013 10:34 AM, Dave Cahill wrote:
Hi,
Recently I encountered two "nested virtualization" use cases which made me
want QEMU hypervisor support in CloudStack. I'm interested to hear if
anyone else is interested in this feature, and any notes on how it should
be implemented.
Here is
Hi,
While thinking about the new features for RBD in 4.2 I've stumpled upon
something.
RBD knows something like 'writeback caching' [0] and is enabled by
adding rbd_cache=1 to the disk.
Now, if I want to enable RBD caching I'd do:
One could say that I'd enable RBD cachi
Wido den Hollander created CLOUDSTACK-1212:
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Summary: Sheepdog storage support for KVM
Key: CLOUDSTACK-1212
URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CLOUDSTACK-1212
Project: CloudStack
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Ship It!
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On Feb. 8, 2013, 8:50 a.m
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I pushed a commit
On 02/08/2013 04:56 AM, Alex Huang wrote:
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Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2013 7:46 PM
To: David Nalley
Cc: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org
Subject: [DISCUSS] Binary downloads
Because providing 'binaries' isn't
On 02/07/2013 07:48 PM, Frank Zhang wrote:
-1 for go back
+1 (So that's a -1 for going back).
Lots of mailist don't strip 'Reply-to', I totally don't understand why ASF does
this.
I believe people on mailist consciously communicate on public, it's less likely
they will send private mail j
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Wido den Hollander resolved CLOUDSTACK-1193.
Resolution: Fixed
Clearly a stupid typo (of me, I wrote this).
I
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Wido den Hollander closed CLOUDSTACK-1193.
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> documentation typo er
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Wido den Hollander updated CLOUDSTACK-1193:
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> documentation typo er
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Wido den Hollander commented on CLOUDSTACK-600:
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Checking the ups
Wido den Hollander created CLOUDSTACK-1192:
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Summary: Add disk I/O polling to statistics accounting of Instances
Key: CLOUDSTACK-1192
URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CLOUDSTACK-1192
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Wido den Hollander updated CLOUDSTACK-1191:
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> Implement RBD snapshotting, back
Wido den Hollander created CLOUDSTACK-1191:
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Summary: Implement RBD snapshotting, backups and cloning
Key: CLOUDSTACK-1191
URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CLOUDSTACK-1191
Project
mand.
Thanks
-min
On 1/30/13 7:46 AM, "Wido den Hollander" wrote:
Hi,
During some API work I found that when you query for a 'name' with
ListDomains, ListAccounts and/or ListVolumes this search is fuzzy (with
a wildcard).
For example when listing domains:
if (do
Wido den Hollander created CLOUDSTACK-1179:
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Summary: API searches for names should not be fuzzy / wildcards
Key: CLOUDSTACK-1179
URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CLOUDSTACK-1179
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Wido den Hollander resolved CLOUDSTACK-1150.
Resolution: Fixed
This has been fixed by commit
> On Feb. 4, 2013, 8:52 p.m., David Nalley wrote:
> > Can you create a bug for this?
> >
> > --David
Done by CLOUDSTACK-1150 and has been resolved. This patch was not applied.
- Wido
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On 02/06/2013 04:57 PM, Chip Childers wrote:
On Wed, Feb 06, 2013 at 03:30:04PM +0530, Pradeep Soundararajan wrote:
Thanks Hugo, Wido and Noa for bringing this to some closure :)
I am able to package rpm using "packaging/centos63/package.sh" after some
modification in the package.sh script s
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Wido den Hollander commented on CLOUDSTACK-1158:
I started wor
accordingly in order to satisfy all the changed
conditions.
Time being shall we keep all the internals intact with the same name cloud
instead of cloudstack?
Please let us know if any one see any other issues.
Thanks,
Pradeep S
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Wido den Hollander updated CLOUDSTACK-1158:
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> Wrap qemu-img instead of us
Wido den Hollander created CLOUDSTACK-1164:
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Summary: Use libvirt for security groups for KVM
Key: CLOUDSTACK-1164
URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CLOUDSTACK-1164
Project
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Wido den Hollander commented on CLOUDSTACK-1147:
The cur
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Wido den Hollander updated CLOUDSTACK-410:
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Fix Version/s: (was: 4.1.0)
4.2.0
> vnc_lis
e the goal. These scripts should not be
mandatory, since a lot of admins will use Puppet or Chef to provision
their systems (mainly hypervisors).
Wido
On Feb 4, 2013 10:06 AM, "Wido den Hollander (JIRA)"
wrote:
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On 02/05/2013 08:10 PM, Kelven Yang wrote:
On 2/5/13 11:02 AM, "Wido den Hollander" wrote:
On 02/04/2013 11:18 PM, Kelven Yang wrote:
On 2/4/13 3:35 AM, "Wido den Hollander" wrote:
On 02/03/2013 12:44 PM, David Nalley wrote:
Hi folks:
One of the discussions t
keep the diff size down, simplifying merge and the focus of
stabilization for 4.1
Yes, I stumbled upon the same while merging master into packaging.
It doesn't hurt anybody to keep it in the current shape, the end result
will be the same.
Wido
/n
On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 11:33 AM, Wid
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Wido den Hollander commented on CLOUDSTACK-410:
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Wido den Hollander closed CLOUDSTACK-149.
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Resolution: Fixed
Closing this one since we are working on packaging for 4.1
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Wido den Hollander commented on CLOUDSTACK-765:
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We are on our way
On 02/04/2013 11:18 PM, Kelven Yang wrote:
On 2/4/13 3:35 AM, "Wido den Hollander" wrote:
On 02/03/2013 12:44 PM, David Nalley wrote:
Hi folks:
One of the discussions that came up while we were in Ghent was whether
or not to package the SSH key reset and password reset uti
Why is this e-mail regarding CloudPlatform going to the -dev and -users list for
the CloudStack project?
If there is an bug in CloudStack feel free to file it in Jira and it will be
looked at.
Thanks!
Wido
Op 5 februari 2013 om 13:58 schreef Sandip Warke :
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> Team,
>
> Resending (cc myself
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Wido den Hollander updated CLOUDSTACK-1158:
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Summary: Wrap qemu-img instead of using simpleBashScript (was: Wrap
Wido den Hollander created CLOUDSTACK-1158:
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Summary: Wrap qemu-img in objects instead of using simpleBashScript
Key: CLOUDSTACK-1158
URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CLOUDSTACK-1158
/commits/packaging
On 02/04/2013 06:04 PM, Wido den Hollander wrote:
On 02/04/2013 06:03 PM, Hugo Trippaers wrote:
Hey guys,
What do we do with the database scripts? They are needed by
cloud(stack)-setup-management. I'm thinking about adding them to the
management server for now together wit
It's also supported as long as the vm
can query its respective virtual router/dhcp server, since thats where
cloudstack places the user/meta data.
On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 3:35 AM, Wido den Hollander wrote:
On 02/03/2013 12:44 PM, David Nalley wrote:
Hi folks:
One of the discussions that c
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Wido den Hollander commented on CLOUDSTACK-1147:
The current s
From: Wido den Hollander [mailto:w...@widodh.nl]
Sent: Monday, February 04, 2013 2:48 PM
To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Packaging in 4.1
On 02/04/2013 02:39 PM, Noa Resare wrote:
I'm on the last leg of my trip home from FOSDEM right now, I hope to
be able to p
Wido den Hollander created CLOUDSTACK-1147:
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Summary: cloud-setup-* should be removed
Key: CLOUDSTACK-1147
URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CLOUDSTACK-1147
Project: CloudStack
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Wido den Hollander commented on CLOUDSTACK-1146:
I totally disa
them in a couple of hours, they contain a lot of what we
discussed regarding the DEB packaging.
Wido
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On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 11:33 AM, Wido den Hollander wrote:
On 02/04/2013 07:12 AM, Sudha Ponnaganti wrote:
Wanted to check when
On 02/03/2013 03:09 AM, Mice Xia wrote:
So...it seems there are still some consensus to be reached and the codes were
not merged before 4.1 feature freeze. This will not be in 4.1 release.
That would also give the libvirt guys time to catch up and we can have
full support through libvirt-jav
On 02/03/2013 12:44 PM, David Nalley wrote:
Hi folks:
One of the discussions that came up while we were in Ghent was whether
or not to package the SSH key reset and password reset utilities, or
whether we should focus our PW/SSH efforts on cloud-init.
The points for consideration are essentiall
On 02/04/2013 07:12 AM, Sudha Ponnaganti wrote:
Wanted to check when would this be implemented?? Several QA folks depend on the
packages and need this working.
We have been still building using waf but today that is also not working as
some references are removed.
Is it possible to accelerate
On 02/03/2013 08:34 AM, Rohit Yadav wrote:
On Sun, Feb 3, 2013 at 12:54 PM, Hugo Trippaers
wrote:
Heya all,
As Devid already mentioned we met up at Build-A-Cloud-Day in Ghent with Wido,
Noa and a few other folks. During this day (with lots of nice talks) we had a
chance to sit down and dis
Hi,
On 01/30/2013 10:58 PM, Angeline Shen wrote:
Cloudstack-dev Community:
Baremetal Functional specs:
]https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CLOUDSTACK/Enhanced+Baremetal+support+on+Cisco+UCS
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CLOUDSTACK/Cisco+UCS+Integration+functional+spec
On 01/30/2013 08:10 PM, Rohit Yadav wrote:
The current systemvm building script is out dated, old, difficult to
work with and not maintainable:
patches/systemvm/debian/buildsystemvm.sh
There are old threads where people have expressed need of building
their own systemvm templates. I'll startin
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