Short version: How do I just open an editor, type in some Clojure
code, save it in a file, and then run it?
Long version: Okay, I'm very new to Clojure. But I'm not a Java
programmer (don't want to be). I'm not used to all this complexity
just to do something simple. What I want to do is the
27;t even
know what the heck a "jar" file is). And these guides need to be
linked right at the front page of the Clojure site.
Anyway, thanks.
On Mar 23, 7:25 pm, Stefan Sigurdsson wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 8:50 AM, ultranewb wrote:
> > Short version: How do I just ope
Yes, the issue isn't Clojure at all, it's Java. At any rate, thanks
for feeling my pain.
On Mar 23, 8:59 pm, Timothy Baldridge wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 8:11 AM, ultranewb wrote:
> > I'll be damned - this worked. Really, there needs to be some
> > promi
On Mar 23, 9:10 pm, Aaron Cohen wrote:
> Did you search for getting started guides? If so and you didn't find
> these, how can they be made easier to find? If you didn't find them,
> why not? If you found them and they didn't help, why not?
Yes, I had previously found all those guides, and much m
On Mar 23, 9:43 pm, Laurent PETIT wrote:
> Did you follow the presentation of getting started with
> Eclipse+Counterclockwise, where the step by step guide explains how to setup
> your environment, and also how to create a hello world project ?
No I did not, because I didn't go the Eclipse route;
On Mar 23, 10:15 pm, Timothy Baldridge wrote:
> > No I did not, because I didn't go the Eclipse route; rather, I tried
> > NetBeans and Emacs.
>
> That was my experience as well. I have tried many Eclipse based IDEs
> and they all were slow, buggy, and utterly worthless. So I didn't even
> try to
On Mar 24, 1:11 am, Mike Meyer wrote:
> > Long version: Okay, I'm very new to Clojure. But I'm not a Java
> > programmer (don't want to be).
>
> I don't think you can get very far in Clojure without having to come
> to grips with the Java infrastructure. It ain't Unix.
Well, for me I guess it w
Nope, I get a .
On Mar 23, 11:23 pm, wschnell wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I started with NetBeans and Enclojure and never used anything else.
> You can just go File/New Project, say this is going to be a Clojure
> project, give it a name. This will be your new active project in the
> projects tree on the le
On Mar 24, 7:26 am, Armando Blancas wrote:
> That's quite alright. Nine out of ten people here hate java;
Actually, I didn't know that. I imagined that 9 out of 10 people here
would be java-ites. It's good to know that I'm in good company.
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On Mar 24, 10:19 am, Sean Corfield wrote:
> Heh, even as a long-time Java developer (since '97), I'm here because
> I want something _better_ than Java. It's why I learned Groovy in 2008
> (sort of "Java-lite" - fixes most of Java's problems but suffers from
> performance issues compared to Java),
On Mar 25, 8:58 am, Sean Corfield wrote:
> My final year project at university was to write an APL interpreter
> (in Pascal, back in '83). APL is a fun language. I haven't looked at J
> (yet).
Awesome!
J is APL, but totally "modernized." Everything you would expect in a
functional language (cur
t would be any different to do the same with APL symbols.
In practice, I just don't know enough about the problem, so maybe it
is.
On Mar 25, 12:15 pm, Ken Wesson wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 12:36 AM, ultranewb wrote:
> > On Mar 25, 8:58 am, Sean Corfield wrote:
> >> My
I mean, how is what you are describing any different than what these
asians I am referring to do?
On another note, I have unfortunately decided that I just can't do
Clojure right now. I was never able to get anything to work except
for using the command line to "java -cp" a file that way. No edi
On Mar 25, 11:05 pm, Shantanu Kumar wrote:
> Are you using Mac, Linux or Windows?
>
> Okay, let me list few things out for you (assuming you are on
> Windows):
Yes, on Windows. Okay, I can give these things a try late tomorrow
and post my results back. Thanks for helping.
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NetBeans w/ Enclosure -
Could get a REPL, couldn't figure out how to do anything else. Result
- uninstalled.
IntelliJ w/ La Clojure -
Could get a REPL, couldn't figure out how to do anything else. In
particular, I followed some specific instructions from somewhere
(can't remember where) for how
On Mar 27, 12:35 am, Mark Engelberg wrote:
> Type some Clojure code into the file you created. Save periodically
> with "Ctrl-x Ctrl-s". When you want to try out your code, type
> "Ctrl-c ctrl-k" and all your code will be evaluated and those
> definitions will now be available for interactive us
On Mar 27, 12:16 am, Preecha P wrote:
> I think you should take a look at clojure box again. You could split
> the windows and have both code/repl open at the same times.
Doesn't work for me. See this thread:
http://groups.google.com/group/clojure/browse_thread/thread/3c61be467d783415
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On Mar 27, 6:40 am, Mark Engelberg wrote:
> Make sure the pane with your code is the active pane when you type
> Ctrl-c Ctrl-k. It won't work if the focus is on the REPL.
Nope, it doesn't work, no matter where the focus is.
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On Mar 27, 2:29 pm, Shantanu Kumar wrote:
> I'm curious - did/could you give Eclipse and Counter-ClockWise plugin
> a try?
I did not try Eclipse. I had a bad experience before with it. It
seems to be the worst to deal with as far as all the project and
dependency garbage, and none of that garba
For newbs, I did not see this anywhere, but just discovered it, and it
is of immense value. In a REPL, you can just (load-file "path/to/
filename") to load the code you typed into an editor.
On Mar 27, 12:24 am, ultranewb wrote:
> NetBeans w/ Enclosure -
> Could get a REPL, cou
On Mar 27, 11:09 pm, Luc Prefontaine
wrote:
> You cannot expect a tool to "guess" your project dependencies.
> Dependencies are a fact of life and cannot be avoided in any significant
> project.
> It's not "gargage"...
Anything I have to do besides what I should be doing is "garbage," but
I'm we
On Mar 28, 7:51 am, Lee Spector wrote:
> > Dependency management and other garbage are definitely garbage, but I know
> > of no nontrivial programming language that doesn't have its share of it.
> > If you know of any magical environments that eliminate such administrivia,
> > do share.
>
> A
On Mar 28, 12:46 pm, Kasim wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I am the guy who did ClojureW. I just updated the instruction to get a REPL
> with Jline. Thank you for reporting. I am also working on a "Just Works"
> emacs setup for all platforms and would be happy to hear your opinion. I
> really want to make it as
On Mar 28, 11:39 pm, Lee Spector wrote:
> There's some ambiguity here about what kind of libraries we're talking about
> and where they come from.
> I think the poster is asking for a totally transparent way to do the stuff at
> the simple end of the spectrum (e.g. for built-in stuff
Yes, t
On Mar 28, 11:19 pm, Luc Prefontaine
wrote:
> The simple answer (your # 1) was already provided by Shantanu.
> Install Eclipse and CCW and you can start simple Clojure projects.
> No immediate dependency issues until you need something from Clojar.
Oh, there have been lots of "simple answers." T
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It's okay. I couldn't get hired as a C programmer for NASA years ago,
and I had already written my own working C compiler! The idiot
interviewer opened some huge C library reference manual to some random
page, and asked me to recite whatever function he had the page opened
to from memory. Of
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