Yes, the issue isn't Clojure at all, it's Java. At any rate, thanks for feeling my pain.
On Mar 23, 8:59 pm, Timothy Baldridge <tbaldri...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 8:11 AM, ultranewb <pineapple.l...@yahoo.com> wrote: > > I'll be damned - this worked. Really, there needs to be some > > prominent, easily-accessible guides for just dumb, ultra-basic stuff > > like this. I'm talking guides that assume the user has no knowledge > > of anything except "programming" and "editing" (I mean, I don't even > > know what the heck a "jar" file is). And these guides need to be > > linked right at the front page of the Clojure site. > > > Anyway, thanks. > > If it helps, I feel your pain. I bought books on Clojure, read > everything I could, and it still took me 8 months of on and off again > trials till I finally understood how it worked. Part of the issue is > Java, imo. The whole java class path thing is very annoying. I think I > got python up and running on my box in a matter of minutes. C# has > such a nice IDE that it's super-simple to start programming in that. > Even Ruby has excellent instructions on how to get started. > > Clojure on the other hand has it's own way of doing things, and when > it can't resolve something it looks to Java, and from there Java tries > to find libs and symbols and if it can't, it just blows up with some > cryptic Java exception. Yeah...that's the down-side of working with a > language that sits on the JVM. > > </rant> > > Don't get me wrong, I love Clojure, but the learning curve can be steep. > > Timothy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Clojure" group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en