On Nov 4, 2:15 pm, Rich Hickey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Nov 4, 3:47 am, "Christian Vest Hansen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > My view is that TMs are another tool in the box, just like CAS, locks,
> > agents, volatile, thread-locals, immutables, atomics and all the rest
> > of java.uti
On 31 Okt., 04:46, JCB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 1) does Clojure maintain the CL notion of a "running image" (ACL
> terms), or a "core" (sbcl terms)?
You can do this with Scriba. Scriba allows you to save a "running
image" of a scripting session on the JVM. It does not in particular
support C
Hi,
On 5 Nov., 08:31, Konrad Hinsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> That's exactly my point. Multimethods may well be sufficient or even
> superior for implementing OO concepts useful in Clojure. We will see
> when someone actually uses them this way (or has it already
> happened?). But as lon
On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 8:47 PM, Chanwoo Yoo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Thank you for your kind exaplanation. :) To a newbie like me, list and
> vector seemed that they have no significant difference.
No problem, I think everyone runs into these kinds of issues when they
first look at Clojure. H
On Nov 4, 4:37 pm, Matthias Benkard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> The CPL doesn't allow me to choose the GPL. Instead, it forces me to
> apply a CPL-compatible, GPL-like license -- a thing which may or may
> not currently exist, but which will certainly make my library useless
> to almost everyb
On Nov 5, 2008, at 11:12, mb wrote:
> I don't think that there are first-class and second-class citizens.
> They just have a different aspect.
Right, one can't say one is superior to the other. There are just two
separate worlds, each having its own characteristics.
> Having pure Clojure "cla
Hi,
On 5 Nov., 15:40, Konrad Hinsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> But does gen-class have to look the way it does? Couldn't the same
> functionality be provided in a way that looks more like a proper part
> of the language?
I'm not sure about the form itself. I had look at a CLOS tutorial
and
On Nov 5, 2008, at 0:49, Mibu wrote:
> You do know these licenses only hold in the litigious USA and some of
> its subsidiaries? Even there, they're practically unenforceable. In
> other places, developers usually ignore this red herring legal mambo
> jumbo and just use the technology. Common law
On Nov 4, 11:46 pm, Konrad Hinsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Long answer: SISAL is an example of a functional parallel language
>
> Ah, right, there was SISAL... unfortunately long forgotten.
I saw a retrospective presentation on it at SIAM PP this spring by one
of the Livermore folks who pr
Hello all, I am just about to write my first Clojure code to teach
myself the language.
I thought I might try Bulls&Cows aka Mastermind. This is the game where
one player hides a pattern of colors, the other guesses a pattern, and
the first says something like "1 correct color in the right pl
Hi Peter,
For the sequence of positive integers: (iterate inc 1)
Take a look at the lazy-seqs library in Clojure-Contrib for some more
interesting lazy sequences.
Cheers,
Stuart
> Hello all, I am just about to write my first Clojure code to teach
> myself the language.
>
> I thought I might
Maybe everyone submitting new/updated file should announce it on the
list in preferred format (with full filename, etc), so it could be
fulltext searchable.
Not the best enterprise class solution, but working - I've tried it
for tsp.zip. :)
On 10/31/08, Rich Hickey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
I don't know why you're getting this behavior, but you can do what you
want by using with-meta instead of #^
user=> (meta (with-meta 'sss {:tag 'mmm}))
{:tag mmm}
On Nov 4, 8:24 pm, Stephen Wrobleski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On rev 1086:
>
> user=> (meta `#^mmm sss)
> {:tag user/mmm}
>
> use
Ah thank you, now I am un-stuck.
ISeq really only exists for Java interop right? You don't really
implement new sequence data types, rather you combine things like
ITERATE and MAPCAT with your own functions to define your own sequences.
Is it correct to say that sequences are not really a typ
Hi,
Am 05.11.2008 um 17:33 schrieb Peter Wolf:
Also I haven't found the right document/screencast that talks about
this. Can someone give me a pointer.
A bit long, but ...: http://blip.tv/file/734409
Sincerely
Meikel
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On Nov 4, 10:53 am, Rich Hickey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Once detected, a deadlock can still be a bear to reproduce/debug, and
> often does not appear until the worst possible time - production.
So far, my experience (both direct & observed from others) with
deadlocks has been:
- indeed you
On Nov 5, 3:33 pm, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Are you sure? You're not modifying the clojure source, so you're not
> creating a derivative work. I would think you can create a GPL
> licensed library in that case.
I can, but noone else will be allowed to redistribute it or wo
(1) Is there a simpler way to define pairwise, which takes an existing
sequence and then returns its items a pair at a time?
(defn pairwise [& seq]
(map vector (take-nth 2 seq) (take-nth 2 (rest seq
(2) When writing a function like pairwise, are there any bright-line
rules about whethe
Since nobody else has mentioned it, I thought people on this group
would be interested to know that Stuart Halloway's new Clojure book
"Programming Clojure" is now available. I've also announced it on my
blog:
http://bc.tech.coop/blog/081105.html
Congratulations Stuart, I've bought the combo pack
> No argument there. #1 bug for Azul (and we train all our SE's to look
> for it) is HashMap corruption leading to a closed-cycle linked list,
> and threads stuck forever spinning down the infinite list.
if you can share, i'd find it very interesting to learn about the top
5 or 10 such bugs.
si
On Nov 5, 2008, at 12:56 PM, bc wrote:
>
> Since nobody else has mentioned it, I thought people on this group
> would be interested to know that Stuart Halloway's new Clojure book
> "Programming Clojure" is now available. I've also announced it on my
> blog:
> http://bc.tech.coop/blog/081105.htm
On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 12:56 PM, Stuart Halloway
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> (1) Is there a simpler way to define pairwise, which takes an existing
> sequence and then returns its items a pair at a time?
>
> (defn pairwise [& seq]
> (map vector (take-nth 2 seq) (take-nth 2 (rest seq
The b
On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 12:53 PM, Matthias Benkard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On Nov 5, 3:33 pm, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>> Are you sure? You're not modifying the clojure source, so you're not
>> creating a derivative work. I would think you can create a GPL
>> licensed
Just bought mine :-)
Matt Revelle wrote:
> On Nov 5, 2008, at 12:56 PM, bc wrote:
>
>
>> Since nobody else has mentioned it, I thought people on this group
>> would be interested to know that Stuart Halloway's new Clojure book
>> "Programming Clojure" is now available. I've also announced it
Duh. Thanks, and I will be adding that to the sequences chapter. :-/
Stuart
>
> On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 12:56 PM, Stuart Halloway
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> (1) Is there a simpler way to define pairwise, which takes an
>> existing
>> sequence and then returns its items a pair at a time?
Thanks Bill!
I blogged this too, even though you scooped me. :-)
http://blog.thinkrelevance.com/2008/11/5/clojure-beta-book-available
> Since nobody else has mentioned it, I thought people on this group
> would be interested to know that Stuart Halloway's new Clojure book
> "Programming Clojure
On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 2:00 PM, Stuart Halloway
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Duh. Thanks, and I will be adding that to the sequences chapter. :-/
>
> Stuart
You're welcome -- looking forward to the book!
Best,
Graham
>
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 12:56 PM, Stuart Halloway
>> <[EMAIL PROTECT
Hehe, in the blogging world, it's the quick and the dead!
On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 11:11 AM, Stuart Halloway
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Thanks Bill!
>
> I blogged this too, even though you scooped me. :-)
>
> http://blog.thinkrelevance.com/2008/11/5/clojure-beta-book-available
>
>> Since nobody
I love it how developers talk about legal issues as if they were
software issues: license compatibility, backward compatibility, dual-
licensing, license interop, adherence to license clauses, migration to
a different license, forking of licenses, license features, supporting
a license or license
I just browsed Stuart's wonderful book. Lots of great stuff, which I
will enjoy working though
However, I didn't find a section that talks about how to do
non-functional stuff in Clojure. Might be a good section to add for N00Bs
For example, I'm implementing my Mastermind game. I want to pr
Duh... I should read more carefully. I just found the section on
loop/recur.
Still, it might be good to expand that section, and highlight it. I
suspect that every N00B will wonder how to implement a console app. And
every LISPer will try to implement the REPL in Clojure.
P
Peter Wolf wr
Peter,
You might look at the loop special form:
(defn game
"Runs the game, returning the final state"
[]
(loop [state (initial-state)]
(report state)
(if (final? state)
state
(recur (compute-new-state state (read-line))
for your own definitions of initial
On Wednesday 05 November 2008 12:00, Mibu wrote:
> I love it how developers talk about legal issues as if they were
> software issues: license compatibility, backward compatibility, dual-
> licensing, license interop, adherence to license clauses, migration
> to a different license, forking of lic
> Unless perhaps it is that you renounce all notions of ownership,
> perhaps only for intellectual property. You're entitled to that
> viewpoint, of course, but don't expect to find many technologists to
> share such a view.
I don't renounce ownership rights at all, not even for intellectual
prop
On Nov 5, 2008, at 3:01 PM, Peter Wolf wrote:
>
> I just browsed Stuart's wonderful book. Lots of great stuff, which I
> will enjoy working though
>
> However, I didn't find a section that talks about how to do
> non-functional stuff in Clojure. Might be a good section to add for
> N00Bs
>
>
On Wednesday 05 November 2008 12:30, Mibu wrote:
> > Unless perhaps it is that you renounce all notions of ownership,
> > perhaps only for intellectual property. You're entitled to that
> > viewpoint, of course, but don't expect to find many technologists
> > to share such a view.
>
> I don't reno
> I don't renounce ownership rights at all, not even for intellectual
> property. I just think "free" software licenses are useless at best
> and counterproductive at worst when applied to projects that are
> supposed to be free.
Free software needs a license if it's going to be adopted by
organi
Thanks, the "hello" example on page 25 is perfect.
Matt Revelle wrote:
> On Nov 5, 2008, at 3:01 PM, Peter Wolf wrote:
>
>
>> I just browsed Stuart's wonderful book. Lots of great stuff, which I
>> will enjoy working though
>>
>> However, I didn't find a section that talks about how to do
>>
On Nov 5, 6:55 am, Konrad Hinsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I agree. Can anyone cite a single lawsuit concerning an inappropriate
> mix of licenses?
Usually these license issues get resolved before court. The fact is
that it is illegal to combine CPL and GPL code in certain manners.
Doing
On Nov 5, 12:00 pm, Mibu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Why can't we debate whether a license is needed at all for a
> free project?
> (Too idealistic? Hey, it's a flame war. Just playing by the rules...)
This is sounding awfully trollish of you. I didn't start this thread
to cause a "flame war
On Nov 5, 4:13 pm, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Nov 5, 12:00 pm, Mibu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Why can't we debate whether a license is needed at all for a
> > free project?
> > (Too idealistic? Hey, it's a flame war. Just playing by the rules...)
>
> This is sound
Just thought it was about time I gave someone a heads up about this...
Mostly for amusement, I created a jEdit mode for Clojure a while
back. I don't get a chance to play with Clojure all that much, so it
hasn't been heavily tested ("go-to" *is* a Clojure "keyword",
right?). ;-) It's primarily
Thank you so much, Stuart! Congratulations~ I really look forward to
reading this book. :)
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On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 12:10 AM, Chouser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The attached patch allows:
>
> user=> (point 42 11)
> {:x 42, :y 11}
The right tool for the job makes all the difference. Attached is a
much simpler patch to accomplish the same thing.
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Hi all. In Stuart's book - Programming Clojure, there is a multi
method like following:
(defmulti blank? class)
(defmethod blank? String [s] (every? #{\space} s))
(defmethod blank? nil [_] true)
After reading the method, I was curious about type or class of native
data structures of Clojure. So
On 6 Nov, 07:25, Chanwoo Yoo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi all. In Stuart's book - Programming Clojure, there is a multi
> method like following:
>
> (defmulti blank? class)
> (defmethod blank? String [s] (every? #{\space} s))
> (defmethod blank? nil [_] true)
>
> After reading the method, I wa
On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 8:25 AM, Chanwoo Yoo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hi all. In Stuart's book - Programming Clojure, there is a multi
> method like following:
>
> (defmulti blank? class)
> (defmethod blank? String [s] (every? #{\space} s))
> (defmethod blank? nil [_] true)
>
> After reading
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