Re: Scala vs Clojure

2009-03-31 Thread Antony Blakey
On 01/04/2009, at 1:26 PM, Rayne wrote: > > Unless they slowed down, the pace in which Enclojure was improving > would put me dead on. Neither the site nor the mailing list shows a lot of activity - it's not dead, but it is taking a long time compared to the IntelliJ support, which was my p

Re: Scala vs Clojure

2009-03-31 Thread Rayne
Unless they slowed down, the pace in which Enclojure was improving would put me dead on. I personally use IntelliJ IDEA. But who says I paid for it? On Mar 31, 5:45 pm, Antony Blakey wrote: > On 28/03/2009, at 5:21 PM, Rayne wrote: > > > I'd say Enclojure is close to > > production-ready. > >  F

Re: Scala vs Clojure

2009-03-31 Thread e
just wanted to know because it didn't sound like it from the comparison being made. On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 8:34 PM, Antony Blakey wrote: > > > On 01/04/2009, at 10:01 AM, e wrote: > > > but the InteliJ IDE isn't free, is it? > > So what? I'm a professional developer. I make money using these too

Re: Scala vs Clojure

2009-03-31 Thread Antony Blakey
On 01/04/2009, at 10:01 AM, e wrote: > but the InteliJ IDE isn't free, is it? So what? I'm a professional developer. I make money using these tools. The money people pay for IntelliJ is one reason that the Scala support in IntelliJ is more ambitious and why the IntelliJ Clojure plugin is

Re: Scala vs Clojure

2009-03-31 Thread e
but the InteliJ IDE isn't free, is it? On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 6:45 PM, Antony Blakey wrote: > > > On 28/03/2009, at 5:21 PM, Rayne wrote: > > > I'd say Enclojure is close to > > production-ready. > > From my playing with it, plus the list of things not yet done, I > don't think this is true. Th

Re: Scala vs Clojure

2009-03-31 Thread Antony Blakey
On 28/03/2009, at 5:21 PM, Rayne wrote: > I'd say Enclojure is close to > production-ready. From my playing with it, plus the list of things not yet done, I don't think this is true. The IntelliJ clojure support seems more advanced right now, and I'm starting to use that in production. IMO

Re: Scala vs Clojure

2009-03-31 Thread Berlin Brown
On Mar 31, 4:52 pm, Luc Prefontaine wrote: > I was searching for a Java alternative for our medical bus product and > looked at Scala during summer 2008. > I found it was too tied to an object model. The lack of a complete macro > system was in my view also a short coming. > > I concluded that

Re: Scala vs Clojure

2009-03-31 Thread Luc Prefontaine
I was searching for a Java alternative for our medical bus product and looked at Scala during summer 2008. I found it was too tied to an object model. The lack of a complete macro system was in my view also a short coming. I concluded that it was not a significant departure from Java. I really wan

Re: Scala vs Clojure

2009-03-31 Thread Christian Vest Hansen
On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 5:20 PM, Chas Emerick wrote: > > We shipped production software built in Scala last year, but likely > will never do so again given clojure.  Our primary motivating factor > is the degree of complexity in the Scala, but since you're looking for > "auxiliary" factors: > > -

Re: Scala vs Clojure

2009-03-31 Thread Chas Emerick
We shipped production software built in Scala last year, but likely will never do so again given clojure. Our primary motivating factor is the degree of complexity in the Scala, but since you're looking for "auxiliary" factors: - clojure has a far richer "ecosystem" -- there's a metric ton

Re: Scala vs Clojure

2009-03-27 Thread Rayne
I sure hope this topic doesn't start a flamewar. I've used both languages, with Clojure being used more. Scala is more mature than Clojure, so you really have to put that in perspective when comparing the languages. Scala's IDE support is superior to Clojure's but not for long as all three major

Scala vs Clojure

2009-03-27 Thread Jon Harrop
Can anyone who has tried both of these languages to a decent degree compare them in practical terms? In other words, I am not interested in the technical aspects of the languages themselves (e.g. dynamic vs static typing) but things like IDE support, tools (lexers and parsers), standard librar