Re: off-topic: stackof developer survey

2017-03-26 Thread Didier
All the uncomplicate libraries look really awesome. I'm going to give them a try out. I agree with you 100%, as a Community, we'll have to build more tools, write tutorials, add tests, etc., if we truly want Clojure to grow. Awesome job on those, I like their landing page, great description, goo

Re: off-topic: stackof developer survey

2017-03-25 Thread piastkrakow
> doesn't drive me mad, but it does puzzle ans annoy > me. puzzle: why is it? not sure, personally. I've seen this pattern at the last 2 startups that I've worked at: The startup hires a bunch of people as they graduate from college. They are hired to do data analysis, typically on some kind

Re: off-topic: stackof developer survey

2017-03-25 Thread Dragan Djuric
Sure, I agree. I'm just saying that whoever would like to see whatever, they'll have to commit some work or money into making it happen, or change their preferences to other stuff :). For example, if someone is a programmer who would like to learn ML to be able to land a better job, and this employ

Re: off-topic: stackof developer survey

2017-03-25 Thread craig worrall
Yes, if you have a 'product' perspective, but others will have a service provider perspective and would like to see employers committed to Clojure and looking to engage with practitioners.+ On Sunday, March 26, 2017 at 4:49:45 AM UTC+11, Dragan Djuric wrote: > > > Isn't it advantageous in some

Re: off-topic: stackof developer survey

2017-03-25 Thread Dragan Djuric
Clojure offers full support for GPU computing. See http://clojurecl.uncomplicate.org, as far as I know, Python doesn't have so well integrated GPU programming. It also supports full high-performance CPU acceleration. Also, although Neanderthal (http://neanderthal.uncomplicate.org) is not yet on

Re: off-topic: stackof developer survey

2017-03-25 Thread Didier
Is Clojure so great at AI, ML, NLP and concurrent programming? It seems to me the libraries are lacking. I also know there's a race for performance, and it looks like CPU parallelization isn't even fast enough, so distributed or GPU based solutions are being built, which I'm also not sure Cloju

Re: off-topic: stackof developer survey

2017-03-25 Thread Dragan Djuric
But why is it bad news if your competition don't use the best tool available (if it is true, of course)? I consider it a competitive advantage. On the other hand, it is perfectly clear why everyone uses Python for ML and (almost) nobody uses Clojure: 1) All serious literature is in Python. There

Re: off-topic: stackof developer survey

2017-03-25 Thread Joe Python
Scipy/Numpy had a head start in this area long before others should up in the Open source space. On Friday, March 24, 2017 at 10:46:18 PM UTC-4, Mars0i wrote: > > > > On Friday, March 24, 2017 at 5:17:15 PM UTC-5, Gregg Reynolds wrote: >> >> >> >> On Mar 24, 2017 5:05 PM, wrote: >> >> >> >> > Th

Re: off-topic: stackof developer survey

2017-03-24 Thread Mars0i
On Friday, March 24, 2017 at 5:17:15 PM UTC-5, Gregg Reynolds wrote: > > > > On Mar 24, 2017 5:05 PM, > wrote: > > > > > This did get me thinking though. If the community *did* want to score > highly > > on some of these metrics, what would those be? > > I'll be happy so long as Clojure is the

Re: off-topic: stackof developer survey

2017-03-24 Thread Gregg Reynolds
On Mar 24, 2017 5:05 PM, wrote: > This did get me thinking though. If the community *did* want to score highly > on some of these metrics, what would those be? I'll be happy so long as Clojure is the popular choice for doing the things where it's advantages should matter: machine learning, AI,

Re: off-topic: stackof developer survey

2017-03-24 Thread piastkrakow
> This did get me thinking though. If the community *did* want to score highly > on some of these metrics, what would those be? I'll be happy so long as Clojure is the popular choice for doing the things where it's advantages should matter: machine learning, AI, NLP, concurrent programming.

Re: off-topic: stackof developer survey

2017-03-23 Thread Mars0i
On Thursday, March 23, 2017 at 7:49:40 PM UTC-5, Mars0i wrote: > > The highest-paid win suggests there's greater demand than supply, so > people who aren't comfortable with FP or lisp may be forced to code in > Clojure, or try to for the sake of a job without doing it right, and are > unhappy

Re: off-topic: stackof developer survey

2017-03-23 Thread Mars0i
The highest-paid win suggests there's greater demand than supply, so people who aren't comfortable with FP or lisp may be forced to code in Clojure, or try to for the sake of a job without doing it right, and are unhappy as a result. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to th

Re: off-topic: stackof developer survey

2017-03-22 Thread Didier
As I understand it, the Most Love metric asks people who work with the language how happy they are with it. So I find this metric very interesting. Clojure foes rank well in this, but it falls below a lot of others. I'd like to know why? Why doesn't everyone who uses Clojure loves it? I can se

Re: off-topic: stackof developer survey

2017-03-22 Thread Gregg Reynolds
On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 6:16 PM, Luke Burton wrote: > > On Mar 22, 2017, at 2:26 PM, Gregg Reynolds wrote: > > very interesting stuff, esp. the sociological bits: > > http://stackoverflow.com/insights/survey/2017 > > sadly, clojure does not even rank in popularity. but it's number 1 in pay > wo

Re: off-topic: stackof developer survey

2017-03-22 Thread Luke Burton
> On Mar 22, 2017, at 2:26 PM, Gregg Reynolds wrote: > > very interesting stuff, esp. the sociological bits: > > http://stackoverflow.com/insights/survey/2017 > > > sadly, clojure does not even rank in popularity. but it's number 1 in pay > wo