Re: Please suggest a way to learn just enough Java for Clojure

2009-03-31 Thread Santanu
Thanks for all your replies. Using google for a solution on an as-when-needed basis does not really work well for me unless I have some conceptual understanding of the subject. Hence, for the time being, I have decided to settle for Core Java Vol. 1. >From your replies, I think this should be a

Re: Please suggest a way to learn just enough Java for Clojure

2009-03-31 Thread CuppoJava
+1 to Stuart's answer. Clojure is very tightly integrated with Java. And knowing Java well helps a great deal. Personally I like learning from a more formal, comprehensive, book rather than from spread-out individual tutorials. It gives you the advantage of learning the workflow, and approaches i

Re: Please suggest a way to learn just enough Java for Clojure

2009-03-31 Thread Stuart Sierra
On Mar 30, 12:10 pm, Santanu wrote: > Could you please suggest any Java book (and the relevant chapters) > that will teach me _just_enough_ Java so that I can understand how to use > the Java library documentation effectively. I always recommend the Sun Java Tutorials: http://java.sun.com/docs/b

Re: Please suggest a way to learn just enough Java for Clojure

2009-03-30 Thread Timothy Pratley
There are a couple listed in: http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Clojure_Programming/Further_Reading#Java However seeing your goal is 'just enough Java' I would recommend not reading anything. There are tonnes of examples on the web such that you can always get a good hit if you google what-I-want-to-

Re: Please suggest a way to learn just enough Java for Clojure

2009-03-30 Thread Dan Beauchesne
I'm curious about this as well. In terms of writing simple UI gadgets, it's overwhelming to refer to the Java docs when I don't have any background in Java. There's a few examples floating around out there, but if I try and reference them to write in clojure using different components it doesn'

Re: Please suggest a way to learn just enough Java for Clojure

2009-03-30 Thread revoltingdevelopment
> > Core Java Volumes I & II, by Horstman and Cornell. > +1 I'm using those books to learn Java right now. They are suitable as a tutorial and as a reference, and they include useful extracts from Java doc. I'm making my way through from the start, but also using them as a reference while conve

Re: Please suggest a way to learn just enough Java for Clojure

2009-03-30 Thread Sean
There is a pair of java books I cut my teeth on, an I would recommend them to anyone. Core Java Volumes I & II, by Horstman and Cornell. Amazing reference, two of the best technical books I've ever read. Cover usage, gives code examples, and a tremendous amount of history & theory (for their aud

Re: Please suggest a way to learn just enough Java for Clojure

2009-03-30 Thread David Nolen
There's a few posts on the mailing list suggesting some good starting points. You can get far in Clojure without resorting to Java but it definitely helps to know some if you really want to advance your knowledge of Clojure's inner workings as well as get it to interoperate with Java libraries. O

Please suggest a way to learn just enough Java for Clojure

2009-03-30 Thread Santanu
Hi Everybody, (Sorry if this post appears twice, but the first post seems to have vanished) I have recently downloaded Clojure and am learning it. As of now, I feel that to do anything substantial with Clojure, I have to be able to know how to access the Java libraries from within Clojure. But

Please suggest a way to learn just enough Java for Clojure

2009-03-30 Thread Santanu
Hi Everybody, I have recently downloaded Clojure and am learning it. As of now, I feel that to do anything substantial with Clojure, I have to be able to know how to access the Java libraries from within Clojure. But the problem is, I don't know Java. I know C, some Scheme, little bit Haskell,