Re: Improving Contrib

2010-10-24 Thread ataggart
I asked Stu on the booze bus about the purpose of contrib apart from being a stage for libraries which might get included into core. He noted that having a set of libraries for which provenance is assured is a strong selling point for getting clojure into certain types of organizations, ones which

Re: Improving Contrib

2010-10-24 Thread Stuart Sierra
http://clojure.org/contributing On Oct 22, 6:30 pm, Ulises wrote: > I know this may be a silly question but: how does one get started > helping with contrib/etc.? I'm only starting to learn clojure but I've > found the community so helpful and thriving that I cannot help but to > want to help ...

Re: Improving Contrib

2010-10-22 Thread Ulises
I know this may be a silly question but: how does one get started helping with contrib/etc.? I'm only starting to learn clojure but I've found the community so helpful and thriving that I cannot help but to want to help ... what is the first step? U -- You received this message because you are s

Re: Improving Contrib

2010-10-22 Thread Sean Corfield
On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 10:53 PM, Chas Emerick wrote: > I suggested in the channel sometime last month that a "Lodge your CA > here" table should be set up at the Conj.  Anyone know if that's a go > or not?  IMO, no one should leave on Saturday without being settled in > this department. I won't

Re: Improving Contrib

2010-10-21 Thread Stuart Halloway
As the start of this thread mentioned, we are moving to a new infrastructure around Confluence and JIRA, which should be (1) easier to use and in and of itself, and (2) allow a chance to improve documentation and streamline every aspect of contributing to Clojure. I am hoping we can roll onto JI

Re: Improving Contrib

2010-10-20 Thread Quzanti
I understand that contrib wasn't intended to be a standard library, but it inclusion in contrib did suggest to me that a library was being widely used (and tested) and is relatively stable, and that is there was a common problem, then contrib would likely have a library for it Then there is the co

Re: Improving Contrib

2010-10-20 Thread Mike Meyer
On Wed, 20 Oct 2010 09:59:26 -0600 "Eric Schulte" wrote: > Mike Meyer writes: > > > It was also more work than submitting patches looks to be for apache, > > django, gnu > > FWIW in gnu projects if your patch is >10 lines long then they do > require you to go through a fairly lengthy attributi

Re: Improving Contrib

2010-10-20 Thread Eric Schulte
Mike Meyer writes: > It was also more work than submitting patches looks to be for apache, > django, gnu FWIW in gnu projects if your patch is >10 lines long then they do require you to go through a fairly lengthy attribution process. http://www.gnu.org/prep/maintain/html_node/Copyright-Papers.

Re: Improving Contrib

2010-10-19 Thread Chas Emerick
On Oct 19, 7:55 pm, Sean Corfield wrote: > On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 4:01 PM, Mike Meyer > > wrote: > > On Tue, 19 Oct 2010 15:51:17 -0700 (PDT) > > Mibu wrote: > >> The greatest impediment for me is having to sign a contract to > >> participate in an open source project. I understand Rich Hickey

Re: Improving Contrib

2010-10-19 Thread Mike Meyer
On Tue, 19 Oct 2010 16:26:24 -0700 (PDT) Rich Hickey wrote: > > > On Oct 19, 7:01 pm, Mike Meyer 620...@mired.org> wrote: > > On Tue, 19 Oct 2010 15:51:17 -0700 (PDT) > > > > Mibu wrote: > > > The greatest impediment for me is having to sign a contract to > > > participate in an open source p

Re: Improving Contrib

2010-10-19 Thread Rich Hickey
On Oct 19, 7:38 pm, Phil Hagelberg wrote: > On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 4:26 PM, Rich Hickey wrote: > >http://contributing.openoffice.org/programming.html > > This is probably not a good example; the copyright assignment policy > for OpenOffice has caused the active contributors to fork it into > L

Re: Improving Contrib

2010-10-19 Thread Sean Corfield
On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 4:01 PM, Mike Meyer wrote: > On Tue, 19 Oct 2010 15:51:17 -0700 (PDT) > Mibu wrote: >> The greatest impediment for me is having to sign a contract to >> participate in an open source project. I understand Rich Hickey and >> most of you guys live in the litigious US and hav

Re: Improving Contrib

2010-10-19 Thread Phil Hagelberg
On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 4:26 PM, Rich Hickey wrote: > http://contributing.openoffice.org/programming.html This is probably not a good example; the copyright assignment policy for OpenOffice has caused the active contributors to fork it into LibreOffice, which does not have such a policy: http://

Re: Improving Contrib

2010-10-19 Thread Rich Hickey
On Oct 19, 7:01 pm, Mike Meyer wrote: > On Tue, 19 Oct 2010 15:51:17 -0700 (PDT) > > Mibu wrote: > > The greatest impediment for me is having to sign a contract to > > participate in an open source project. I understand Rich Hickey and > > most of you guys live in the litigious US and have to c

Re: Improving Contrib

2010-10-19 Thread Mike Meyer
On Tue, 19 Oct 2010 15:51:17 -0700 (PDT) Mibu wrote: > The greatest impediment for me is having to sign a contract to > participate in an open source project. I understand Rich Hickey and > most of you guys live in the litigious US and have to cover > yourselves, but I feel not right about this.

Re: Improving Contrib

2010-10-19 Thread Mibu
The greatest impediment for me is having to sign a contract to participate in an open source project. I understand Rich Hickey and most of you guys live in the litigious US and have to cover yourselves, but I feel not right about this. On Oct 19, 4:00 pm, Rich Hickey wrote: > We are taking sever

Re: Improving Contrib

2010-10-19 Thread Luke Renn
True, but if ivy.xml's aren't published, you can't use any of ivy's features. It's just maven without the 20 jars. Luke On Oct 19, 12:26 pm, Wilson MacGyver wrote: > I think what Rich meant is that, they will be available in a mvn repo. > > you can pull from mvn repo using ivy, etc. I use gradl

Re: Improving Contrib

2010-10-19 Thread Wilson MacGyver
I think what Rich meant is that, they will be available in a mvn repo. you can pull from mvn repo using ivy, etc. I use gradle to pull both the current clojure and clojure-contrib all the time. On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 12:22 PM, Luke Renn wrote: > Please consider Ivy.  It's what Gradle uses and d

Re: Improving Contrib

2010-10-19 Thread Luke Renn
Please consider Ivy. It's what Gradle uses and does dependency management better than Maven does. http://ant.apache.org/ivy/ http://ant.apache.org/ivy/features.html Thanks, Luke On Oct 19, 12:12 pm, Rich Hickey wrote: > On Oct 19, 12:04 pm, Wilson MacGyver wrote: > > > How should we as users

Re: Improving Contrib

2010-10-19 Thread Rich Hickey
On Oct 19, 12:04 pm, Wilson MacGyver wrote: > How should we as users consume the libs under the new umbrella? Is it fair > to assume that most of these would be also uploaded by the creator into > clojars as new versions become available, thus using build tools like > mvn, gradle, lein, > etc to

Re: Improving Contrib

2010-10-19 Thread Wilson MacGyver
How should we as users consume the libs under the new umbrella? Is it fair to assume that most of these would be also uploaded by the creator into clojars as new versions become available, thus using build tools like mvn, gradle, lein, etc to "pull them in" as we need them? since I assume we are m

Re: Improving Contrib

2010-10-19 Thread Chas Emerick
Many thanks to Rich and everyone at Relevance and elsewhere that are making this possible. FYI, I'll be migrating the existing nREPL codebase from it's current home (http://github.com/cemerick/nREPL) to the clojure organization umbrella today or tomorrow. It's been a hectic week or two. :-) - Ch

Improving Contrib

2010-10-19 Thread Rich Hickey
We are taking several steps to improve contrib and the facilities used to host Clojure development. The goal is to make it easier and more desirable to work on the Clojure project, and encourage more libraries to be developed within the project. There are several impediments to people working in o