On Oct 19, 7:38 pm, Phil Hagelberg <p...@hagelb.org> wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 4:26 PM, Rich Hickey <richhic...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >http://contributing.openoffice.org/programming.html
>
> This is probably not a good example; the copyright assignment policy
> for OpenOffice has caused the active contributors to fork it into
> LibreOffice, which does not have such a policy:
>
> http://www.linux.com/news/enterprise/biz-enterprise/366193:libreoffic...
>

That may be your take on it, but they worked under the Sun SCA for
quite a while. By all reports this fork seems more to be about
stewardship under Oracle and the rate of change. Now they are locked
into a license (the alternative to having CAs). They don't really have
an option, as they don't hold the original CAs. Taking CAs now for new
code wouldn't give them any more license flexibility, so it makes
sense that they don't bother.

Note here (http://keionline.org/ec-mysql) where Stallman himself
argues for the importance of license flexibility:

    "There are fundamental and unavoidable legal obstacles to
combining code from programs licensed under the different GPL
versions."

    "the lack of a more flexible license* for MySQL will present
considerable barriers to a new forked development path for MySQL"

I'd rather have CAs than be locked into a license. As the primary
author of the project, that's my choice, and these examples simply
show it's not an unusual or non-mainstream one.

Clojure's CA is a lose-nothing affair. It is not a copyright transfer,
contributors retain all the rights in their work. And it makes the
will-remain-open promise (which Sun was forced to add the their SCA
early on, due to community pressure). It is in fact that clause which
is preventing Oracle from taking the JDK (et al) closed moving
forward.

Yes, having a CA is a hurdle. Almost 200 people have managed to get
over it.

Rich

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