On Jul 8, 8:37 pm, Christian Marks <9fv...@gmail.com> wrote:
> The moral of this story is: don't let anyone clip your wings.
Well said. That is my take away too. It is surprising how to me how
much weight people give to the assertions of others, famous or not. In
truth, this human endeavor of prog
On Dec 20, 10:53 am, Aaron Bedra wrote:
> On 12/20/10 1:47 PM, Ken Wesson wrote:
>
> > On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 1:42 PM, Aaron Bedra wrote:
> >> On 12/20/10 1:39 PM, Ken Wesson wrote:
> >>> On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 1:26 PM, Meikel Brandmeyer
> >>> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> if you prefer text
Can you articulate it any better than "ah hah!"?
On Dec 19, 11:33 am, Tim Daly wrote:
> There have been discussions, here and elsewhere, about
> whether Clojure is a "Lisp". Lots of discussion centers
> around facts like homoiconicity, or the REPL, or the
> debate of Rich's redefinition of lisp
On Dec 18, 9:55 am, Alex Baranosky
wrote:
> Is there a similar free service to use with Compojure? If not free, then
> what are the cheap options?
A little googling revealed that Google App Engine will work:
http://www.infoq.com/articles/deadline-clojure-appengine
Freiheit was kind enough
On Dec 14, 11:56 pm, nickik wrote:
> Lisp is Not an Acceptable Lisp
> Friday, April 14, 2006
>
> Clojure wasn't out then.
Right. I picked a *really terrible* subject line to basically discuss
the question of whether Clojure is the language that answered most of
Yegge's concerns about Lisp adopt
On Dec 14, 8:52 pm, ka wrote:
> user=> (get-in m [])
> {:a {:b {:c 10, :c1 20}, :b1 90}, :a1 100}
This seems strange to me. I would expect Clojure to return nil, as
there is no key in there that is nil. Assuming that an empty vector is
the same as asking for a nil key, that is.
(I suppose it ma
Just ran across:
http://steve-yegge.blogspot.com/2006/04/lisp-is-not-acceptable-lisp.html
Whoah! I had no idea there was so much, uh, 'intricacy' going on
behind Lisp. :)
Anyway, it was interesting to read it having a bit of Clojure under my
belt. With the exception of types, it seems like Clo
I wouldn't worry too much about your reputation. Your posts are top
notch, and you obviously know the language better than 90% of most
clojure users. Have confidence and laugh if you think someone is
disparaging: actions speak far louder than words.
On Dec 14, 4:42 am, Ken Wesson wrote:
> On Tu
On Dec 13, 8:51 pm, Phil Hagelberg wrote:
> If you check out the source for Emacs 24, it comes with package.el
> already, so once it's released it will definitely be the lowest-hassle
> way to get started. No need to worry about instability; I've been
> following Emacs trunk since 2007 or so witho
On Dec 9, 11:11 pm, Andy Fingerhut wrote:
>
> Follow the instructions on the ELPA page for installing it:
>
> http://tromey.com/elpa/install.html
>
> After you do M-x package-list-packages, go down the list of packages
> until the cursor is on the line for the package "clojure-mode", pre
em to work so well
> in my experience.
>
> On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 8:43 PM, javajosh wrote:
> > Ok, I decided to nuke ports, fink, and delete every package they ever
> > installed. I successfully installed emacs 23.2 via homebrew (there's a
> > good overview of homebr
Ok, I decided to nuke ports, fink, and delete every package they ever
installed. I successfully installed emacs 23.2 via homebrew (there's a
good overview of homebrew here
http://ascarter.net/2010/02/22/homebrew-for-os-x.html).
I started the emacs it installed, but I didn't know how to access the
What is FFI?
On Dec 9, 10:47 pm, Ken Wesson wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 12:43 AM, javajosh wrote:
> > It does beg the question, though: what is a reasonable bare minimum
> > function set that a real-life lisp would require?
>
> I think different people might give diff
(conflicting advice snipped)
If we can reach consensus on best (easiest, least error-prone) path to
getting a working emacs clojure environment up on OSX I'll happily
execute and even write up my experience.
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On Dec 9, 9:16 pm, Ken Wesson wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 12:13 AM, javajosh wrote:
>
> > On Dec 9, 9:07 pm, Ken Wesson wrote:
> >> On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 11:55 PM, javajosh wrote:
> >> > Common Lisp.
>
> >> It figures. :)
>
> > It
On Dec 9, 5:41 pm, Alec Battles wrote:
> > On Dec 6, 9:16 pm, Phil Hagelberg wrote:
> >> On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 9:00 PM, javajosh wrote:
> >> > Sorry for asking here, but I think it's at least a little relevant to
> >> > Clojure since I for one w
On Dec 9, 9:07 pm, Ken Wesson wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 11:55 PM, javajosh wrote:
> > Common Lisp.
>
> It figures. :)
It's still a really exciting story - thanks Alec for sharing it! I was
reading Gabor's post (http://quotenil.com/Planet-Wars-Post-
Mortem
Common Lisp.
http://quotenil.com/
On Dec 9, 7:09 pm, Ken Wesson wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 8:53 PM, Alec Battles wrote:
> > I'm sure a few people have read this news already. It's been up for a
> > week, though strangely ZDnet -- which, on principle, I refuse to link
> > to
>
> Why?
>
> >
On Dec 9, 7:08 am, Laurent PETIT wrote:
> If the audience is Java / Ruby, my guess is that they don't want to know
> about emacs, for one.
I agree - learning clojure, I don't want to know about emacs either
(especially since installing clojure support has been unsuccessful so
far). Eclipse has a
On Dec 8, 12:05 pm, Aaron Cohen wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 2:40 PM, javajosh wrote:
> > I was looking at quote.
>
> > user=> (quote 1)
> > 1
> > user=> (quote)
> > nil
> > user=> (quote quote)
> > quote
> > user=> ((quot
I was looking at quote.
user=> (quote 1)
1
user=> (quote)
nil
user=> (quote quote)
quote
user=> ((quote quote) 1)
nil
It's the last result that confuses me. I would have expected the
result to be "1" - e.g. the same as (quote 1). I figured I'd try quote
on something other than itself, and it just
The three things that I've seen that impressed me (and I'm a newb)
were:
1. Swing GUI construction. Clojure's psuedo "with" syntax makes it
very elegant.
2. Multi-threaded ant simulation. Although, I might try to do
something simpler.
3. Numerical calculations. The fact that Clojure uses arbitrary
On Dec 7, 5:50 am, Sean Devlin wrote:
> This is a solved problem. The trick is to use a higher-higher order
> function...
>
> http://fulldisclojure.blogspot.com/2010/01/12-fn-proposal-same-multis...
Why not call it "unseq"?
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On Dec 6, 11:58 pm, Ken Wesson wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 2:15 AM, javajosh wrote:
> > Mike and I have had a nice off-line conversation where we enumerated
> > the possible things that can come after open-parens. I listed 7, he
> > added 3:
>
> >> 1.
On Dec 6, 6:01 pm, Mike Meyer wrote:
Mike and I have had a nice off-line conversation where we enumerated
the possible things that can come after open-parens. I listed 7, he
added 3:
> 1. A value (if the paren has a tick '( )
> 2. A function.
> 3. A map - which is a psuedo function that take
On Dec 6, 6:24 pm, Robert McIntyre wrote:
> @javajosh You're speaking of the Turing description of computation,
> you might be interested in Church's lambda calculus description which
> works just as well and doesn't use mutability to describe computation,
Thanks, I
On Dec 6, 9:16 pm, Phil Hagelberg wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 9:00 PM, javajosh wrote:
> > Sorry for asking here, but I think it's at least a little relevant to
> > Clojure since I for one wouldn't be installing emacs if it wasn't for
> > Clojure and S
Sorry for asking here, but I think it's at least a little relevant to
Clojure since I for one wouldn't be installing emacs if it wasn't for
Clojure and Slime. Getting prompts about what the function arguments
are seems like a HUGE benefit when learning this langauge. I imagine
other non-emacs peopl
On Dec 6, 5:40 pm, Stuart Halloway wrote:
> The world is a series of immutable states, and the future is a function of
> the past.
> See http://www.infoq.com/presentations/Are-We-There-Yet-Rich-Hickey.
My philosophy questions are the most interesting to people, ha!
Neat link. It appears that Hi
Hello, I'm a long-time Java programmer who's tired of mutability
getting in my way. I've been largely enjoying the pervasive use of
closures in JavaScript, and though I'd check out Clojure.
So far so good. It installed easily and the REPL is easy to use. I've
watched the screencasts and have writt
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