Re: [Clamav-users] Yet more clubbing of deceased equine.

2010-04-25 Thread Simon Hobson
Sarocet wrote: The new hostname updates would still have needed the kill signature. Otherwise, you have the same problem as before, but with a different hostname. Someone wasn't reading. The scheme was to remove the original hostname BEFORE using any updates that would kill the software. At

Re: [Clamav-users] Yet more clubbing of deceased equine.

2010-04-25 Thread Sarocet
Simon Hobson wrote: > If anyone was running an old enough 0.95 version, then their software > wouldn't have died, they would have seen update errors in their logs, > and the fix would have been to change just one or two hostnames in > their freshclam.conf. The new hostname updates would still hav

Re: [Clamav-users] Yet more clubbing of deceased equine.

2010-04-24 Thread Jim Preston
On Apr 24, 2010, at 11:22 AM, lists wrote: Of course I am, hence why I can laugh at myself before others ;) Jim If that were really true you would not feel the need to keep seeking attention for your views, but please, carry on for last word your posts are really {yawn} gripping.

Re: [Clamav-users] Yet more clubbing of deceased equine.

2010-04-24 Thread Chuck Swiger
Hi, all-- On Apr 24, 2010, at 1:19 AM, Simon Hobson wrote: > Forget it, it's been covered, and you'll never persuade this group of people > that a) there was any alternative, You have plenty of alternatives. You can switch to using other AV software from Norton, McCafee, TrendMicro, Panda, Kas

Re: [Clamav-users] Yet more clubbing of deceased equine.

2010-04-24 Thread lists
On Sat, 2010-04-24 at 10:57 -0700, Jim Preston wrote: > On Apr 24, 2010, at 8:13 AM, lists wrote: > > > On Sat, 2010-04-24 at 07:17 -0700, Jim Preston wrote: > >> lists wrote: > >>> On Sat, 2010-04-24 at 06:46 -0700, Jim Preston wrote: > >>> > Stephen Gran wrote: > > > You mean, depl

Re: [Clamav-users] Yet more clubbing of deceased equine.

2010-04-24 Thread Jim Preston
On Apr 24, 2010, at 8:13 AM, lists wrote: On Sat, 2010-04-24 at 07:17 -0700, Jim Preston wrote: lists wrote: On Sat, 2010-04-24 at 06:46 -0700, Jim Preston wrote: Stephen Gran wrote: You mean, deploy a parallel infrastructure of vhosting, monitoring, pushing updates, etc? When most of t

Re: [Clamav-users] Yet more clubbing of deceased equine.

2010-04-24 Thread Simon Hobson
Stephen Gran wrote: Sigh. I guess you didn't bother to read the part about "third party servers not under the control of the clamav team". This means updating the actual edge servers is not trivial. The 'parallel infrastructure' wasn't referring to deploying new hardware, it was referring to

Re: [Clamav-users] Yet more clubbing of deceased equine.

2010-04-24 Thread Dennis Peterson
On 4/24/10 6:36 AM, Stephen Gran wrote: On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 05:02:07PM -0700, Chris Knight said: On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 1:39 PM, Christopher X. Candreva wrote: On Fri, 23 Apr 2010, Simon Hobson wrote: So, it still runs the software it used to run ? Yes It's running software that is EO

Re: [Clamav-users] Yet more clubbing of deceased equine.

2010-04-24 Thread Simon Hobson
Stephen Gran wrote: > 1) Release a new version that pulls updates from a new hostname. You mean, deploy a parallel infrastructure of vhosting, monitoring, pushing updates, etc? When most of the mirrors are on third party servers not under the control of the clamav team? Do you really think t

Re: [Clamav-users] Yet more clubbing of deceased equine.

2010-04-24 Thread Stephen Gran
On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 08:56:10AM -0700, Chris Knight said: > On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 6:36 AM, Stephen Gran wrote: > > On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 05:02:07PM -0700, Chris Knight said: > >> On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 1:39 PM, Christopher X. Candreva > >> wrote: > >> > On Fri, 23 Apr 2010, Simon Hobson w

Re: [Clamav-users] Yet more clubbing of deceased equine.

2010-04-24 Thread Chris Knight
On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 6:36 AM, Stephen Gran wrote: > On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 05:02:07PM -0700, Chris Knight said: >> On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 1:39 PM, Christopher X. Candreva >> wrote: >> > On Fri, 23 Apr 2010, Simon Hobson wrote: >> > >> >> So, it still runs the software it used to run ? Yes >>

Re: [Clamav-users] Yet more clubbing of deceased equine.

2010-04-24 Thread lists
On Sat, 2010-04-24 at 07:17 -0700, Jim Preston wrote: > lists wrote: > > On Sat, 2010-04-24 at 06:46 -0700, Jim Preston wrote: > > > >> Stephen Gran wrote: > >> > >>> You mean, deploy a parallel infrastructure of vhosting, monitoring, > >>> pushing updates, etc? When most of the mirrors ar

Re: [Clamav-users] Yet more clubbing of deceased equine.

2010-04-24 Thread Jim Preston
lists wrote: On Sat, 2010-04-24 at 06:46 -0700, Jim Preston wrote: Stephen Gran wrote: You mean, deploy a parallel infrastructure of vhosting, monitoring, pushing updates, etc? When most of the mirrors are on third party servers not under the control of the clamav team? Do you really

Re: [Clamav-users] Yet more clubbing of deceased equine.

2010-04-24 Thread lists
On Sat, 2010-04-24 at 06:46 -0700, Jim Preston wrote: > Stephen Gran wrote: > > You mean, deploy a parallel infrastructure of vhosting, monitoring, > > pushing updates, etc? When most of the mirrors are on third party > > servers not under the control of the clamav team? Do you really think > > t

Re: [Clamav-users] Yet more clubbing of deceased equine.

2010-04-24 Thread Jim Preston
Stephen Gran wrote: You mean, deploy a parallel infrastructure of vhosting, monitoring, pushing updates, etc? When most of the mirrors are on third party servers not under the control of the clamav team? Do you really think that's trivial, or were you just making up a solution without knowing a

Re: [Clamav-users] Yet more clubbing of deceased equine.

2010-04-24 Thread Stephen Gran
On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 05:02:07PM -0700, Chris Knight said: > On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 1:39 PM, Christopher X. Candreva > wrote: > > On Fri, 23 Apr 2010, Simon Hobson wrote: > > > >> So, it still runs the software it used to run ? Yes > >> It's running software that is  EOL ? Most definitely > >>

Re: [Clamav-users] Yet more clubbing of deceased equine.

2010-04-24 Thread Simon Hobson
Chris Knight wrote: >> 1) Release a new version that pulls updates from a new hostname. 2) Wait a couple of weeks, or even six months 3) Shut down old servers, 4. Orphan *all* previous versions, including the still heavily used, and valid, 0.95s which were released before the hostnam

Re: [Clamav-users] Yet more clubbing of deceased equine.

2010-04-23 Thread Chris Knight
On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 5:07 PM, Chris Meadors wrote: > On 4/23/2010 8:02 PM, Chris Knight wrote: > >> 1) Release a new version that pulls updates from a new hostname. >> 2) Wait a couple of weeks, or even six months >> 3) Shut down old servers, > > 4. Orphan *all* previous versions, including

Re: [Clamav-users] Yet more clubbing of deceased equine.

2010-04-23 Thread Chris Meadors
On 4/23/2010 8:02 PM, Chris Knight wrote: 1) Release a new version that pulls updates from a new hostname. 2) Wait a couple of weeks, or even six months 3) Shut down old servers, 4. Orphan *all* previous versions, including the still heavily used, and valid, 0.95s which were released before

Re: [Clamav-users] Yet more clubbing of deceased equine.

2010-04-23 Thread Chris Knight
On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 1:39 PM, Christopher X. Candreva wrote: > On Fri, 23 Apr 2010, Simon Hobson wrote: > >> So, it still runs the software it used to run ? Yes >> It's running software that is  EOL ? Most definitely >> And Microsoft have sent it a poison pill ? No they haven't > > And is it hi

Re: [Clamav-users] Yet more clubbing of deceased equine.

2010-04-23 Thread Christopher X. Candreva
On Fri, 23 Apr 2010, Simon Hobson wrote: > So, it still runs the software it used to run ? Yes > It's running software that is EOL ? Most definitely > And Microsoft have sent it a poison pill ? No they haven't And is it hitting Microsoft's servers for full updates even when it should only be do