Re: [Clamav-users] Sourcefire acquires ClamAV

2007-08-17 Thread Mike Guiterman
Ace, The license preamble for Snort 3.0 provides some pretty concrete examples of what we consider to be derivative works. While it's not an exhaustive list and I don't think an exhaustive list is possible - the preamble and Marty's public comments provide pretty clear guidance that if you're

Re: [Clamav-users] Sourcefire acquires ClamAV

2007-08-17 Thread Ace Nimrod
Mike, It would be very much appreciated if this could get answered. I've asked for clarification on what Sourcefire constitutes a derivative of Snort as even the Snort 3.0 license doesn't really clarify this. I'm sure others would appreciate the answer as well. Sourcefire is the only one who ca

Re: [Clamav-users] Sourcefire acquires ClamAV

2007-08-17 Thread Tomasz Kojm
On Fri, 17 Aug 2007 11:17:13 -0700 Bill Landry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Today, Snort subscribers have access to new rules produced by SourceFire > that they release to the public after one month." > > Will this delayed rule release process be true for ClamAV, as well? Hi Bill, this question

Re: [Clamav-users] Sourcefire acquires ClamAV

2007-08-17 Thread Bill Landry
Mike Guiterman wrote: > I'll roll up my comments on a couple of items here and again I'm happy > to answer any follow up questions. > > Contributed code: You will of course retain all copyright ownership and > the licensing rights to any code you have contributed. > > Commercial Licensing: To

Re: [Clamav-users] Sourcefire acquires ClamAV

2007-08-17 Thread David F. Skoll
aCaB wrote: > we have records for all the patches which ever made it into the code base. > SVN (plus a lot of manual work) tells us which of those are still current. Thank you. Providing that Sourcefire is reasonable, I don't have a problem with assigning copyright to any of my patches to Source

Re: [Clamav-users] Sourcefire acquires ClamAV

2007-08-17 Thread Ed Kasky
At 07:53 AM Friday, 8/17/2007, Tomasz Kojm wrote -=> >On Fri, 17 Aug 2007 05:26:14 -0700 >Ed Kasky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >lead the advancement of ClamAV and the CVD as employees of Sourcefire. > > >Both the ClamAV engine and the signature database will remain under GPL. > > > > Until the

Re: [Clamav-users] Sourcefire acquires ClamAV

2007-08-17 Thread aCaB
David F. Skoll wrote: > How will you be sure you have removed all contributed code whose copyright > is not owned by Sourcefire? Hi David, we have records for all the patches which ever made it into the code base. SVN (plus a lot of manual work) tells us which of those are still current. HtH, aCa

Re: [Clamav-users] Sourcefire acquires ClamAV

2007-08-17 Thread Tomasz Kojm
On Fri, 17 Aug 2007 13:33:18 -0400 "David F. Skoll" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > OK, sounds good. Question: We ship ClamAV (plus source as required by GPL) > with a commercial (non-GPL) product. We make use of ClamAV only > through the clamdscan interface over a socket. Do you consider that > t

Re: [Clamav-users] Sourcefire acquires ClamAV

2007-08-17 Thread Mike Guiterman
David, Here is the part where I tell everyone that I am not a lawyer and do not play one on TV. Which means that IMHO unfortunately does not count. I am happy to get the right person to answer your question and respond. You're right that ensuring everyone's copyright is respected is critical.

Re: [Clamav-users] Sourcefire acquires ClamAV

2007-08-17 Thread David F. Skoll
Mike Guiterman wrote: > Commercial Licensing: Today ClamAv is used in a number of commercial > solutions. ClamAV will continue to be licensed under GPL to vendors > that distribute the derivative products under the GPL. OK, sounds good. Question: We ship ClamAV (plus source as required by GP

Re: [Clamav-users] Sourcefire acquires ClamAV

2007-08-17 Thread Mike Guiterman
I'll roll up my comments on a couple of items here and again I'm happy to answer any follow up questions. Contributed code: You will of course retain all copyright ownership and the licensing rights to any code you have contributed. Commercial Licensing: Today ClamAv is used in a number of co

Re: [Clamav-users] Sourcefire acquires ClamAV

2007-08-17 Thread Jay West
David wrote... > Sourcefire is a public company. As such, its directors have a > fiduciary duty to act in the best interests of Sourcefire investors. Pendantic mode... Public/Private has no bearing on the issue. Private companies mostly act in the interest of the private shareholders which is gen

Re: [Clamav-users] Sourcefire acquires ClamAV

2007-08-17 Thread Dennis Peterson
David F. Skoll wrote: > Mike Guiterman wrote: > > [some things] > > Mike, would you care to comment on these remarks from Wayne Jackson, > CEO of Sourcefire? > >After a clean-up of the project's code base, Sourcefire will likely >create a new license for third party providers of the tech

Re: [Clamav-users] Sourcefire acquires ClamAV

2007-08-17 Thread David F. Skoll
Mike Guiterman wrote: [some things] Mike, would you care to comment on these remarks from Wayne Jackson, CEO of Sourcefire? After a clean-up of the project's code base, Sourcefire will likely create a new license for third party providers of the technology during the first quarter of 20

Re: [Clamav-users] Sourcefire acquires ClamAV

2007-08-17 Thread Nigel Horne
Frank Elsner wrote: On Fri, 17 Aug 2007 16:52:56 +0100 Nigel Horne wrote: From the FAQ: "* Q. What is the impact on ClamAV users? o A. From the end-user perspective, very little will change beyond the additional resources Sourcefire will provide in our continued efforts to advanc

Re: [Clamav-users] Sourcefire acquires ClamAV

2007-08-17 Thread Frank Elsner
On Fri, 17 Aug 2007 16:52:56 +0100 Nigel Horne wrote: > From the FAQ: > > "* Q. What is the impact on ClamAV users? > o A. From the end-user perspective, very little will change beyond > the additional resources Sourcefire will provide in our continued efforts to > advance the ClamA

Re: [Clamav-users] Sourcefire acquires ClamAV

2007-08-17 Thread Beppe Di Maio
On 8/17/07, John Rudd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > one that had the solid reputation of ClamAV. No matter what sourcefire > does with the project, completely free or subscription driven, etc., the > fact is that ClamAV isn't the same starting today. It's now just > another AV product, instead of

Re: [Clamav-users] Sourcefire acquires ClamAV

2007-08-17 Thread John Rudd
Mike Guiterman wrote: > > Q. When will Sourcefire begin to integrate ClamAV technology into its > products? > A. Sourcefire intends to offer support and training services to ClamAV > users beginning in Q4 2007. We anticipate offering products based on > ClamAV as a part of our Enterprise T

Re: [Clamav-users] Sourcefire acquires ClamAV

2007-08-17 Thread David F. Skoll
Hi, Mike, > I hope this clears it up. If not I'm happy to answer any other questions. Thanks. > Q. When will Sourcefire begin to integrate ClamAV technology into its > products? > A. Sourcefire intends to offer support and training services to ClamAV > users beginning in Q4 2007. OK; so no

Re: [Clamav-users] Sourcefire acquires ClamAV

2007-08-17 Thread Mike Guiterman
From the FAQ hosted at http://www.sourcefire.com/products/clamav/ I hope this clears it up. If not I'm happy to answer any other questions. Q. Will Sourcefire change the way that ClamAV open source software is offered? A. Sourcefire has no current plans to change the way the ClamAV soft

Re: [Clamav-users] Sourcefire acquires ClamAV

2007-08-17 Thread Tomasz Chmielewski
Luca Gibelli schrieb: > Hello James, > >> Tomasz Kojm wrote: (...) > Q. Will Sourcefire change the way that ClamAV open source software is >offered? > A. Sourcefire has no current plans to change the way the ClamAV software is And what about future plan

Re: [Clamav-users] Sourcefire acquires ClamAV

2007-08-17 Thread David F. Skoll
Christoph Cordes wrote: >> (Public companies don't make acquisitions for the good of the >> community; they make them for the good of their shareholders.) > Do you believe that the first goal excepts the other? No, not at all! Red Hat is a clear example of the synergy that is possible. However

Re: [Clamav-users] Sourcefire acquires ClamAV

2007-08-17 Thread Christoph Cordes
Am 17.08.2007 um 17:59 schrieb David F. Skoll: > (Public companies don't make acquisitions for the good of the > community; they make them for the good of their shareholders.) Do you believe that the first goal excepts the other? ClamAV and the Community around it has some experience with doin

Re: [Clamav-users] Sourcefire acquires ClamAV

2007-08-17 Thread David F. Skoll
Tomasz Kojm wrote: > you should rest assured that the virus database will stay GPL and will be > distributed the same way as so far, Sourcefire has no intention of changing > this. That's somewhat comforting. Sourcefire is a public company. As such, its directors have a fiduciary duty to act in

Re: [Clamav-users] Sourcefire acquires ClamAV

2007-08-17 Thread Luca Gibelli
Hello James, > Tomasz Kojm wrote: > >>> Both the ClamAV engine and the signature database will remain under GPL. > >> Until they start charging for current updates, etc. like they do with > >> Snort... > > you should rest assured that the virus database will stay GPL and will be [snip] > I'm comp

Re: [Clamav-users] Sourcefire acquires ClamAV

2007-08-17 Thread Nigel Horne
From the FAQ: "* Q. What is the impact on ClamAV users? o A. From the end-user perspective, very little will change beyond the additional resources Sourcefire will provide in our continued efforts to advance the ClamAV technology and improve our ability to interact with the open sou

Re: [Clamav-users] Sourcefire acquires ClamAV

2007-08-17 Thread Christoph Cordes
Am 17.08.2007 um 17:28 schrieb John Rudd: > It's now just > another AV product, instead of a community project. That's kind of > sad. Why do you think so? As far as I'm concerned, i will still spend up to 18 hours a day on ClamAV. I'll also continue to call Luca at 4 a.m. if i notice a

Re: [Clamav-users] Sourcefire acquires ClamAV

2007-08-17 Thread aCaB
James Kosin wrote: > I'm complaining now... because the virus database is not the source > to build the binaries. If hey are only saying the virus database is > the ONLY part to stay GPL we may have to pay through the nose for the > source to build the compiled binaries! > > I'm HOPING this hasn

Re: [Clamav-users] Sourcefire acquires ClamAV

2007-08-17 Thread John Rudd
James Kosin wrote: > Tomasz Kojm wrote: >> Ed Kasky wrote: >>> Tomasz Kojm wrote: lead the advancement of ClamAV and the CVD as employees of Sourcefire. Both the ClamAV engine and the signature database will remain under GPL. >>> >>> Until they start charging for current updates, etc

Re: [Clamav-users] Sourcefire acquires ClamAV

2007-08-17 Thread Dennis Peterson
Tomasz Kojm wrote: > Dear ClamAV users, > > On August 17, Sourcefire, the creators of Snort, acquired the ClamAV project. > The full announcement is available here: > > http://www.sourcefire.com/products/clamav/ > > We'd like to thank everyone in the ClamAV community for their dedication to > th

Re: [Clamav-users] Sourcefire acquires ClamAV

2007-08-17 Thread James Kosin
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Tomasz Kojm wrote: > On Fri, 17 Aug 2007 05:26:14 -0700 > Ed Kasky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>> lead the advancement of ClamAV and the CVD as employees of Sourcefire. >>> Both the ClamAV engine and the signature database will remain under GPL. >>

Re: [Clamav-users] Sourcefire acquires ClamAV

2007-08-17 Thread Tomasz Kojm
On Fri, 17 Aug 2007 05:26:14 -0700 Ed Kasky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >lead the advancement of ClamAV and the CVD as employees of Sourcefire. > >Both the ClamAV engine and the signature database will remain under GPL. > > Until they start charging for current updates, etc. like they do with >

Re: [Clamav-users] Sourcefire acquires ClamAV

2007-08-17 Thread Ed Kasky
At 04:00 AM Friday, 8/17/2007, Tomasz Kojm wrote -=> >Dear ClamAV users, > >On August 17, Sourcefire, the creators of Snort, acquired the ClamAV project. > >What's most important is that from the end-user perspective very little will >change beyond the additional resources Sourcefire will provide i

[Clamav-users] Sourcefire acquires ClamAV

2007-08-17 Thread Tomasz Kojm
Dear ClamAV users, On August 17, Sourcefire, the creators of Snort, acquired the ClamAV project. The full announcement is available here: http://www.sourcefire.com/products/clamav/ We'd like to thank everyone in the ClamAV community for their dedication to the project. The acquisition by Sourcef