Re: [cfarm-users] gcc110 /home is now 98% full

2024-03-07 Thread Martin Guy via cfarm-users
426Gsegher and a handful of folks with multi-dozen GB homes. What a good thing gcc110 has such an enormous disc if people can need so much space to achieve certain effects However, running fileclean every now and then is a good idea as an emptier /home makes the machine run faster for fi

Re: [cfarm-users] gcc110 /home is now 98% full

2024-03-07 Thread Martin Guy via cfarm-users
Il 06/03/24 20:31, Zach van Rijn via cfarm-users ha scritto: On Wed, 2024-03-06 at 13:27 -0500, Sean McGovern via cfarm-users wrote: I did a quick check, but did not log in as root So he's the only big user who isn't hiding anything :)    M OpenPGP_signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digit

Re: [cfarm-users] gcc110 /home is now 98% full

2024-03-07 Thread Zach van Rijn via cfarm-users
On Thu, 2024-03-07 at 10:32 +0100, Martin Guy via cfarm-users wrote: > Il 06/03/24 20:31, Zach van Rijn via cfarm-users ha scritto: > > On Wed, 2024-03-06 at 13:27 -0500, Sean McGovern via cfarm- > > users > > wrote: > > I did a quick check, but did not log in as root > > So he's the only big user

Re: [cfarm-users] gcc110 /home is now 98% full

2024-03-07 Thread Jonathan Wakely via cfarm-users
On Thu, 7 Mar 2024 at 15:20, Zach van Rijn via cfarm-users wrote: > > On Thu, 2024-03-07 at 10:32 +0100, Martin Guy via cfarm-users > wrote: > > Il 06/03/24 20:31, Zach van Rijn via cfarm-users ha scritto: > > > On Wed, 2024-03-06 at 13:27 -0500, Sean McGovern via cfarm- > > > users > > > wrote: >

Re: [cfarm-users] gcc110 /home is now 98% full

2024-03-07 Thread Bart Van Assche via cfarm-users
On 3/7/24 01:30, Martin Guy via cfarm-users wrote: which usually begins to degrade above 80% and seriously above 90% if I remember correctly. I think that there is a significant difference between log-structured and overwrite-in-place filesystems with regard to performance if a filesystem is a

Re: [cfarm-users] gcc110 /home is now 98% full

2024-03-07 Thread Segher Boessenkool via cfarm-users
On Thu, Mar 07, 2024 at 10:30:13AM +0100, Martin Guy via cfarm-users wrote: > >426Gsegher > > > >and a handful of folks with multi-dozen GB homes. > > What a good thing gcc110 has such an enormous disc if people can need so > much space to achieve certain effects The disk of gcc110 is too sm

Re: [cfarm-users] gcc110 /home is now 98% full

2024-03-07 Thread Martin Guy via cfarm-users
Il 07/03/24 18:29, Segher Boessenkool ha scritto: Clean up after yourself! You should have been taught that in kindergarten already ;-) One from the archives :) ---8<--- Received: from kestrel by betelgeuse.Ukc.AC.UK   Over Ring with SMTP  id aa23843;    

Re: [cfarm-users] gcc110 /home is now 98% full

2024-03-07 Thread Segher Boessenkool via cfarm-users
On Thu, Mar 07, 2024 at 03:25:45PM +, Jonathan Wakely via cfarm-users wrote: > On Thu, 7 Mar 2024 at 15:20, Zach van Rijn via cfarm-users > wrote: > > > > On Thu, 2024-03-07 at 10:32 +0100, Martin Guy via cfarm-users > > wrote: > > > Il 06/03/24 20:31, Zach van Rijn via cfarm-users ha scritto:

Re: [cfarm-users] gcc110 /home is now 98% full

2024-03-07 Thread Segher Boessenkool via cfarm-users
On Thu, Mar 07, 2024 at 09:28:13AM -0800, Bart Van Assche via cfarm-users wrote: > > On 3/7/24 01:30, Martin Guy via cfarm-users wrote: > >which usually begins to degrade above 80% and seriously above 90% if > >I remember correctly. > I think that there is a significant difference between log-stru

Re: [cfarm-users] gcc110 /home is now 98% full

2024-03-07 Thread Bart Van Assche via cfarm-users
On 3/7/24 14:06, Segher Boessenkool wrote: On Thu, Mar 07, 2024 at 09:28:13AM -0800, Bart Van Assche via cfarm-users wrote: On 3/7/24 01:30, Martin Guy via cfarm-users wrote: which usually begins to degrade above 80% and seriously above 90% if I remember correctly. I think that there is a sign

Re: [cfarm-users] gcc110 /home is now 98% full

2024-03-07 Thread Martin Jambor via cfarm-users
On Thu, Mar 07 2024, Zach van Rijn via cfarm-users wrote: > On Thu, 2024-03-07 at 10:32 +0100, Martin Guy via cfarm-users > wrote: >> Il 06/03/24 20:31, Zach van Rijn via cfarm-users ha scritto: >> > On Wed, 2024-03-06 at 13:27 -0500, Sean McGovern via cfarm- >> > users >> > wrote: >> > I did a

Re: [cfarm-users] gcc110 /home is now 98% full

2024-03-07 Thread Christopher Sean Morrison via cfarm-users
> On Mar 7, 2024, at 12:29 PM, Segher Boessenkool via cfarm-users > wrote: > > The disk of gcc110 is too small for how it is used. That has been the > case since day 1, it isn't new. There are 100s of active users on this > system, and most do not clean up after themselves. A disk slightly >

Re: [cfarm-users] gcc110 /home is now 98% full

2024-03-07 Thread Segher Boessenkool via cfarm-users
On Thu, Mar 07, 2024 at 02:28:35PM -0800, Bart Van Assche wrote: > Although I know that we are digressing since gcc110 does not use a > log-structured filesystem, isn't the conclusion from that paper that > disk utilization should be kept below 80% for log-structured > filesystems independent of th

Re: [cfarm-users] gcc110 /home is now 98% full

2024-03-07 Thread mirabilos via cfarm-users
Martin Jambor via cfarm-users dixit: >Or something like that. Nobody should have un-backuped stuff on compile >farm machines for months anyway. Shell/editor configs, etc. excepted, i.e. anything below, I don’t know, a dozen Mebibytes or something? bye, //mirabilos -- „Cool, /usr/share/doc/mksh

Re: [cfarm-users] GCC repository clones (was: gcc110 /home is now 98% full)

2024-03-07 Thread Jacob Bachmeyer via cfarm-users
Segher Boessenkool via cfarm-users wrote: On Thu, Mar 07, 2024 at 03:25:45PM +, Jonathan Wakely via cfarm-users wrote: On Thu, 7 Mar 2024 at 15:20, Zach van Rijn via cfarm-users wrote: On Thu, 2024-03-07 at 10:32 +0100, Martin Guy via cfarm-users wrote: Il 06/03/24 20:31, Z

Re: [cfarm-users] GCC repository clones (was: gcc110 /home is now 98% full)

2024-03-07 Thread Segher Boessenkool via cfarm-users
On Thu, Mar 07, 2024 at 05:55:51PM -0600, Jacob Bachmeyer wrote: > Segher Boessenkool via cfarm-users wrote: > >But many, many of those are weeks out of date so almost certainly > >completely useless. > > > > I seem to remember that Git can use another local repository as a > "reference" when c

Re: [cfarm-users] GCC repository clones (was: gcc110 /home is now 98% full)

2024-03-07 Thread Vincent Lefevre via cfarm-users
On 2024-03-07 18:25:15 -0600, Segher Boessenkool via cfarm-users wrote: > The full GCC repo is smaller than a single trunk checkout, fwiw. So, what would be needed is deduplication at the file system level, unless most space is taken by object files, in which case... > If you want to save space,

Re: [cfarm-users] gcc110 /home is now 98% full

2024-03-07 Thread Peter Gutmann via cfarm-users
Martin Jambor via cfarm-users writes: >Which might be the right general rule to do in general. Something like: "If >your home does not contain a file younger than 6 (or 9?) months, its contents >can be purged in its entirety by admins if disk ever runs low on a machine. >The bigger the home, the