Re: [Cerowrt-devel] [Bloat] great interview on the scale conference wifi successes

2015-03-12 Thread Richard Smith
On 03/10/2015 05:12 PM, Dave Taht wrote: This year I deployed 53 APs. I'll make an updated map showing where they were deployed. So far as I know all the APs were fq-codeled, but the firewall/gw was not. How does this work? I thought the AP's in this setup were run as bridges. -- Richard

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] [Bloat] great interview on the scale conference wifi successes

2015-03-12 Thread dpreed
On Thursday, March 12, 2015 11:31am, "Richard Smith" said: > On 03/10/2015 05:12 PM, Dave Taht wrote: > >>> >>> This year I deployed 53 APs. I'll make an updated map showing where they >>> were deployed. >> >> So far as I know all the APs were fq-codeled, but the firewall/gw was >> not. > > How

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] CeroWrt bits not in OpenWrt (renamed thread)

2015-03-12 Thread Rich Brown
We're espousing the proposition that OpenWrt BB and later is a worthy successor to our beloved - and wicked reliable - CeroWrt 3.10.50-1. (See, for example, "CeroWrt Triumphs over Bufferbloat" at http://www.bufferbloat.net/news/ ) I just tried this out myself, and the initial experience isn't

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] CeroWrt bits not in OpenWrt (renamed thread)

2015-03-12 Thread Alan Jenkins
On 12/03/15 16:43, Rich Brown wrote: We're espousing the proposition that OpenWrt BB and later is a worthy successor to our beloved - and wicked reliable - CeroWrt 3.10.50-1. (See, for example, "CeroWrt Triumphs over Bufferbloat" at http://www.bufferbloat.net/news/ ) I just tried this out myself

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] CeroWrt bits not in OpenWrt (renamed thread)

2015-03-12 Thread Alan Jenkins
On 12/03/15 20:31, Alan Jenkins wrote: On 12/03/15 16:43, Rich Brown wrote: - BB seems to have bloat, and I don't understand how to install and configure the QoS/SQM scripts. Install qos-scripts package. package install requires first updating, since package cache does not persist over reboo

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] CeroWrt bits not in OpenWrt (renamed thread)

2015-03-12 Thread Dave Taht
On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 1:31 PM, Alan Jenkins wrote: > On 12/03/15 16:43, Rich Brown wrote: >> >> We're espousing the proposition that OpenWrt BB and later is a worthy >> successor to our beloved - and wicked reliable - CeroWrt 3.10.50-1. >> (See, for example, "CeroWrt Triumphs over Bufferbloat" a

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] CeroWrt bits not in OpenWrt (renamed thread)

2015-03-12 Thread Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
>sqm-scripts / luci-app-sqm is only available from CC (trunk). The CC >version can be installed manually, but it will complain & leave you >with >warnings about it on every subsequent package install. Note that we've been discussing backporting it to BB, but had one outstanding bug that we fi

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] CeroWrt bits not in OpenWrt (renamed thread)

2015-03-12 Thread Dave Taht
On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 2:47 PM, Toke Høiland-Jørgensen wrote: > >>sqm-scripts / luci-app-sqm is only available from CC (trunk). The CC >>version can be installed manually, but it will complain & leave you >>with >>warnings about it on every subsequent package install. > > Note that we've been di

[Cerowrt-devel] help wanted: maintaining and upgrading the yurtlab campus network

2015-03-12 Thread Dave Taht
I have deployed bits and pieces of the latest bits of the make-wifi-fast work, and there are now 4 generations of AP and directional APs on the los gatos, ca, campground I use for this stuff. But: The latest deployment (running babels) seems to be messing up the oldest generation of radios (runni

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] Better marketing #101: anybody have any graphical talent and time for bufferbloat.net related logos?

2015-03-12 Thread Dave Taht
nowhere on this, huh? ok... noted, will see what I can do. On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 8:51 AM, Dave Taht wrote: > I sometimes really hate not being able to get into the fun like this: > > http://battlemesh.org/BattleMeshV8/PosterDesign > > I have zero skills in the art department. None. Worse... I ha

[Cerowrt-devel] marketing #102 - giving netperf-wrapper a better name?

2015-03-12 Thread Dave Taht
as netperf-wrapper has grown to include far more tests than netperf, with quite a few more on their way, calling it this is increasingly less appropriate: A noted cynic wrote me privately last month, about netperf-wrapper: 'why don't you rename the friggin thing "bufferbloat" or "bloattest" or so

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] marketing #102 - giving netperf-wrapper a better name?

2015-03-12 Thread Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
>seemingly still whatever the programmer called it when he wrote the >first sketchy version, one step up from "foo"' This is accurate, BTW. I'm terrible at naming... Do yeah, what Dave said - suggestions welcome! :) -Toke ___ Cerowrt-devel mailing list

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] [Bloat] great interview on the scale conference wifi successes

2015-03-12 Thread David Lang
On Thu, 12 Mar 2015, dpr...@reed.com wrote: On Thursday, March 12, 2015 11:31am, "Richard Smith" said: On 03/10/2015 05:12 PM, Dave Taht wrote: This year I deployed 53 APs. I'll make an updated map showing where they were deployed. So far as I know all the APs were fq-codeled, but the fi

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] [Bloat] great interview on the scale conference wifi successes

2015-03-12 Thread Dave Taht
so the wifi and ethernet queues are fq_codeled in this past SCALE. One little understood fact about aggregated' wifi is that you CAN actually FQ the faster rate ethernet queue with the theoretically slower rate wifi queue, because a wifi aggregate is decoded at memory speeds, not wire or wireless

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] [Bloat] marketing #102 - giving netperf-wrapper a better name?

2015-03-12 Thread Dave Taht
while I am at it the us trademark db is here: http://tmsearch.uspto.gov/bin/gate.exe?f=tess&state=4802:nateox.1.1 and welcome to the early 00s in terms of UI! I do hope someone here comes up with a good idea for a better name, as we sit and brainstorm for a while, here. The best I have come up w

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] CeroWrt bits not in OpenWrt (renamed thread)

2015-03-12 Thread Alan Jenkins
On 12/03/15 21:47, Toke Høiland-Jørgensen wrote: sqm-scripts / luci-app-sqm is only available from CC (trunk). The CC version can be installed manually, but it will complain & leave you with warnings about it on every subsequent package install. Note that we've been discussing backporting it to

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] CeroWrt bits not in OpenWrt (renamed thread)

2015-03-12 Thread Alan Jenkins
On 12/03/15 21:21, Dave Taht wrote: On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 1:31 PM, Alan Jenkins wrote: On 12/03/15 16:43, Rich Brown wrote: We're espousing the proposition that OpenWrt BB and later is a worthy successor to our beloved - and wicked reliable - CeroWrt 3.10.50-1. (See, for example, "CeroWrt Tr

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] [Bloat] great interview on the scale conference wifi successes

2015-03-12 Thread David Lang
On Thu, 12 Mar 2015, Dave Taht wrote: so the wifi and ethernet queues are fq_codeled in this past SCALE. One little understood fact about aggregated' wifi is that you CAN actually FQ the faster rate ethernet queue with the theoretically slower rate wifi queue, because a wifi aggregate is decode

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] CeroWrt bits not in OpenWrt (renamed thread)

2015-03-12 Thread Sebastian Moeller
On Mar 13, 2015, at 01:50 , Alan Jenkins wrote: > On 12/03/15 21:47, Toke Høiland-Jørgensen wrote: >>> sqm-scripts / luci-app-sqm is only available from CC (trunk). The CC >>> version can be installed manually, but it will complain & leave you >>> with >>> warnings about it on every subsequent

Re: [Cerowrt-devel] CeroWrt bits not in OpenWrt (renamed thread)

2015-03-12 Thread David Lang
On Thu, 12 Mar 2015, Toke Høiland-Jørgensen wrote: sqm-scripts / luci-app-sqm is only available from CC (trunk). The CC version can be installed manually, but it will complain & leave you with warnings about it on every subsequent package install. Note that we've been discussing backporting i