Re: [ceph-users] Journal SSD durability

2014-05-22 Thread Simon Ironside
robably stick with the S3700s. Carlos M. Perez CMP Consulting Services 305-669-1515 -Original Message- From: ceph-users [mailto:ceph-users-boun...@lists.ceph.com] On Behalf Of Simon Ironside Sent: Friday, May 16, 2014 4:08 PM To: Christian Balzer Cc: ceph-users@lists.ceph.com Subject:

Re: [ceph-users] Journal SSD durability

2014-05-16 Thread Simon Ironside
On 16/05/14 22:30, Carlos M. Perez wrote: Unfortunately, the Seagate Pro 600 has been discontinued, http://comms.seagate.com/servlet/servlet.FileDownload?file=00P300JHLCCEA5. The replacement is the 1200 series which are more 2x the price but have a SAS 12gbps interface. You can still fin

Re: [ceph-users] Journal SSD durability

2014-05-16 Thread Carlos M. Perez
0s. Carlos M. Perez CMP Consulting Services 305-669-1515 > -Original Message- > From: ceph-users [mailto:ceph-users-boun...@lists.ceph.com] On Behalf Of > Simon Ironside > Sent: Friday, May 16, 2014 4:08 PM > To: Christian Balzer > Cc: ceph-users@lists.ceph.com > Sub

Re: [ceph-users] Journal SSD durability

2014-05-16 Thread Simon Ironside
On 16/05/14 16:34, Christian Balzer wrote: Thanks for bringing that to my attention. It looks very good until one gets to the Sandforce controller in the specs. As in, if you're OK with occasional massive spikes in latency, go for it (same for the Intel 530). If you prefer consistent perfomance,

Re: [ceph-users] Journal SSD durability

2014-05-16 Thread Christian Balzer
On Fri, 16 May 2014 13:51:09 +0100 Simon Ironside wrote: > On 13/05/14 13:23, Christian Balzer wrote: > >>> Alas a DC3500 240GB SSD will perform well enough at half the price of > >>> the DC3700 and give me enough breathing room at about 80GB/day > >>> writes, so this is what I will order in the e

Re: [ceph-users] Journal SSD durability

2014-05-16 Thread Simon Ironside
On 13/05/14 13:23, Christian Balzer wrote: Alas a DC3500 240GB SSD will perform well enough at half the price of the DC3700 and give me enough breathing room at about 80GB/day writes, so this is what I will order in the end. Did you consider DC3700 100G with similar price? The 3500 is already

Re: [ceph-users] Journal SSD durability

2014-05-13 Thread Dimitri Maziuk
On 05/13/2014 05:49 PM, Kyle Bader wrote: >> TL;DR: Power outages are more common than your colo facility will admit. > > Seconded. I've seen power failures in at least 4 different facilities > and all of them had the usual gamut of batteries/generators/etc. Some > of those facilities I've seen pr

Re: [ceph-users] Journal SSD durability

2014-05-13 Thread Kyle Bader
> TL;DR: Power outages are more common than your colo facility will admit. Seconded. I've seen power failures in at least 4 different facilities and all of them had the usual gamut of batteries/generators/etc. Some of those facilities I've seen problems multiple times in a single year. Even a data

Re: [ceph-users] Journal SSD durability

2014-05-13 Thread Craig Lewis
On 5/13/14 05:15 , Christian Balzer wrote: On Tue, 13 May 2014 22:03:11 +1200 Mark Kirkwood wrote: On thing that would put me off the 530 is lack on power off safety (capacitor or similar). Given the job of the journal, I think an SSD that has some guarantee of write integrity is crucial - so y

Re: [ceph-users] Journal SSD durability

2014-05-13 Thread Christian Balzer
On Tue, 13 May 2014 14:46:23 +0200 Xabier Elkano wrote: > El 13/05/14 14:23, Christian Balzer escribió: > > On Tue, 13 May 2014 12:07:12 +0200 Xabier Elkano wrote: > > > >> El 13/05/14 11:31, Christian Balzer escribió: > >>> Hello, > >>> > >>> No actual question, just some food for thought and som

Re: [ceph-users] Journal SSD durability

2014-05-13 Thread Xabier Elkano
El 13/05/14 14:23, Christian Balzer escribió: > On Tue, 13 May 2014 12:07:12 +0200 Xabier Elkano wrote: > >> El 13/05/14 11:31, Christian Balzer escribió: >>> Hello, >>> >>> No actual question, just some food for thought and something that later >>> generations can scour from the ML archive. >>> >>

Re: [ceph-users] Journal SSD durability

2014-05-13 Thread Christian Balzer
On Tue, 13 May 2014 12:07:12 +0200 Xabier Elkano wrote: > El 13/05/14 11:31, Christian Balzer escribió: > > Hello, > > > > No actual question, just some food for thought and something that later > > generations can scour from the ML archive. > > > > I'm planning another Ceph storage cluster, this

Re: [ceph-users] Journal SSD durability

2014-05-13 Thread Christian Balzer
On Tue, 13 May 2014 22:03:11 +1200 Mark Kirkwood wrote: > On thing that would put me off the 530 is lack on power off safety > (capacitor or similar). Given the job of the journal, I think an SSD > that has some guarantee of write integrity is crucial - so yeah the > DC3500 or DC3700 seem like

Re: [ceph-users] Journal SSD durability

2014-05-13 Thread Xabier Elkano
El 13/05/14 11:31, Christian Balzer escribió: > Hello, > > No actual question, just some food for thought and something that later > generations can scour from the ML archive. > > I'm planning another Ceph storage cluster, this time a "classic" Ceph > design, 3 storage nodes with 8 HDDs for OSDs an

Re: [ceph-users] Journal SSD durability

2014-05-13 Thread Mark Kirkwood
On thing that would put me off the 530 is lack on power off safety (capacitor or similar). Given the job of the journal, I think an SSD that has some guarantee of write integrity is crucial - so yeah the DC3500 or DC3700 seem like the best choices. Regards Mark On 13/05/14 21:31, Christian B