I've just had to replace my Hylafax server as the cooling fan in the rack case
has died and could not be replaced.
My box runs three fax modems, one for each of the original 3 fax machines that
got skipped years ago.
This means that I now have 3 lots of:
USB to seral converter (new box doesn't
On Mon, 2016-01-25 at 08:05 -0600, Chris Adams wrote:
> Once upon a time, Peter Duffy said:
> > The thing which always gets me about systemd is not the thing itself,
> > but the way it was rolled out. When I first installed Red Hat 7, if a
> > window had appeared telling me about systemd and askin
On Mon, 2016-01-25 at 16:53 +, Richard Mann wrote:
> >
> > Complaining on the CentOS list is probably not that productive, though.
> >
>
> +1. To be constructive, the criticism would need to be done ELSEWHERE. On
> this list, it is just whining.
It's not complaining. It's discussion.
.. in that expected way where newly installed kernel is set
to boot as default.
would you suggest where to look, what to check?
many thanks.
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On Tue, 26 Jan 2016, Peter Duffy wrote:
No one is saying that sysvinit is perfect. What I can't grasp is why
replace it with something which is no less imperfect, and is almost
certainly worse in at least some respects - and to make that replacement
unavoidable and mandatory.
Distros weighed u
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On Tue, 2016-01-26 at 11:57 +, John Hodrien wrote:
> On Tue, 26 Jan 2016, Peter Duffy wrote:
>
> https://wiki.debian.org/Debate/initsystem/systemd#Why_Debian_should_default_to_systemd
>
Might be more convincing if they stuck to reasoned argument, rather than
propaganda. "Systemd is straightf
> -Original Message-
> From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On
> Behalf Of Peter Duffy
> Sent: den 26 januari 2016 13:16
> To: centos@centos.org
> Subject: Re: [CentOS] Just need to vent
>
> reminds me of first installing windows 95 (by the
> choice of my then
Le 26/01/2016 12:53, lejeczek a écrit :
.. in that expected way where newly installed kernel is set to boot as
default.
would you suggest where to look, what to check?
In /etc/sysconfig/kernel :
# UPDATEDEFAULT specifies if new-kernel-pkg should make
# new kernels the default
UPDATEDEFAULT=ye
On Tue, 26 Jan 2016, Peter Duffy wrote:
On Tue, 2016-01-26 at 11:57 +, John Hodrien wrote:
On Tue, 26 Jan 2016, Peter Duffy wrote:
https://wiki.debian.org/Debate/initsystem/systemd#Why_Debian_should_default_to_systemd
Might be more convincing if they stuck to reasoned argument, rather th
>> I'm also still trying to figure out in what way systemd is supposed to
>> be "better".
>
> https://wiki.debian.org/Debate/initsystem/systemd#Why_Debian_should_default_to_systemd
>
Counter-arguments are easy to find as well. For example :
http://judecnelson.blogspot.fr/2014/09/systemd-biggest-f
On 26/01/16 12:23, Philippe BOURDEU d'AGUERRE wrote:
Le 26/01/2016 12:53, lejeczek a écrit :
.. in that expected way where newly installed kernel is
set to boot as
default.
would you suggest where to look, what to check?
In /etc/sysconfig/kernel :
# UPDATEDEFAULT specifies if new-kernel-pkg
hi everybody
I'm having a, I'd like to think a "regular" VPN with
IPsec/xl2tpd and it all works OK, except..
One thing that I never needed but now I do and I wonder
is it my iptables, or/and routing or maybe VPN server config..?
vpn clients with established tunnels can get to VPN server's
On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 11:53:27AM +, Peter Duffy wrote:
> It's not complaining. It's discussion.
Discuss it all you like. But "constructive criticism" (used earlier)
isn't terribly useful on the CentOS list, because CentOS has very
little control over the implementation of init systems or d
On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 02:21:40PM +0100, Sylvain CANOINE wrote:
>
> >> I'm also still trying to figure out in what way systemd is supposed to
> >> be "better".
> >
> > https://wiki.debian.org/Debate/initsystem/systemd#Why_Debian_should_default_to_systemd
> >
> Counter-arguments are easy to find
On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 08:43:46AM -0500, Jonathan Billings wrote:
> Discuss it all you like. But "constructive criticism" (used earlier)
> isn't terribly useful on the CentOS list, because CentOS has very
> little control over the implementation of init systems or desktop
> environments. I'm pro
> Ultimately it's all software, and software can be
> written/changed/updated to do anything required - all that's needed is
> the skill and the motivation. If systemd is so "core" that it can't be
> unplugged and plugged easily, and glues together a lot of otherwise
> unrelated components, then i
On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 11:51:29AM +, Peter Duffy wrote:
> I'm also still trying to figure out in what way systemd is supposed to
> be "better". I've seen the following things claimed for it:
Of the three things you list, hot-plug is certainly an important one.
But, it's not the big deal. The
HI,
here I have an eMail with connected to a DMZ 10.0.0.0/24 network. This
server holds 10.0.0.87
There are two firewall-hosts one with CentOS 6 10.0.0.10 and one with
CentOS 7 10.0.0.17
The CentOS 6 has the following iptables-rule (extract):
--8<--8<-
On 01/26/2016 05:51 AM, Peter Duffy wrote:
> On Mon, 2016-01-25 at 08:05 -0600, Chris Adams wrote:
>> Once upon a time, Peter Duffy said:
>>> The thing which always gets me about systemd is not the thing itself,
>>> but the way it was rolled out. When I first installed Red Hat 7, if a
>>> window h
On Tue, January 26, 2016 04:57, Gary Stainburn wrote:
> I've just had to replace my Hylafax server as the cooling fan in the
> rack case has died and could not be replaced.
>
> My box runs three fax modems, one for each of the original 3 fax
> machines that got skipped years ago.
>
> This means th
On Mon, January 25, 2016 19:12, Benjamin Smith wrote:
>
> Which I'd consider "best practices" and we do them.
> They are specifically asking about what to do *after* a
> breach. Despite all the best practices in
> place, there's *still* some risk.
>
If someone wants in to your network then they
> * insure that when something is stopped, it's actually stopped. (If
> you've ever managed an HPC cluster and had processes escape the
> scheduler, you know this problem is real.)
# systemctl list-units | grep -c abandoned
453
# uptime
15:53:58 up 11 days, 21:03, 1 user, load average, 0,01
On Tue, January 26, 2016 9:01 am, Johnny Hughes wrote:
> On 01/26/2016 05:51 AM, Peter Duffy wrote:
>> On Mon, 2016-01-25 at 08:05 -0600, Chris Adams wrote:
>>> Once upon a time, Peter Duffy said:
The thing which always gets me about systemd is not the thing itself,
but the way it was r
On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 04:20:39PM +0100, Sylvain CANOINE wrote:
> Redhat employs Lennart Poettering. Redhat derivates have to follow.
It is true that Red Hat employs Lennart. But, the rest is false. It's
not the way Red Hat works, and it's not the way Fedora works.
--
Matthew Miller
Fedora Pro
Once upon a time, Peter Duffy said:
> Ultimately it's all software, and software can be
> written/changed/updated to do anything required - all that's needed is
> the skill and the motivation.
Well sure, and I can build a rig to replace a wheel on your car while
you're driving down the highway; d
On 1/26/2016 5:37 AM, lejeczek wrote:
I'm having a, I'd like to think a "regular" VPN with IPsec/xl2tpd and
it all works OK, except..
One thing that I never needed but now I do and I wonder is it my
iptables, or/and routing or maybe VPN server config..?
vpn clients with established tunne
On Tue, 2016-01-26 at 09:11 -0500, Matthew Miller wrote:
> Definitely. But please don't show up ranting about systemd unless you
> genuinely have something new and insightful to add. We have literally
> been discussing moving to an improved init system since 2005:
> https://lists.fedoraproject.or
On 01/26/2016 10:33 AM, Always Learning wrote:
>
> On Tue, 2016-01-26 at 09:11 -0500, Matthew Miller wrote:
>
>> Definitely. But please don't show up ranting about systemd unless you
>> genuinely have something new and insightful to add. We have literally
>> been discussing moving to an improved
On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 04:33:49PM +, Always Learning wrote:
> Is systemd the beneficial, reliable, useful and workable "improved init
> system" or something with circa 275,000 lines of coding compared to
> init's circa 10,000 lines ? Things I have learned in programming
> include modular is b
On 26/01/16 16:26, John R Pierce wrote:
On 1/26/2016 5:37 AM, lejeczek wrote:
I'm having a, I'd like to think a "regular" VPN with
IPsec/xl2tpd and it all works OK, except..
One thing that I never needed but now I do and I
wonder is it my iptables, or/and routing or maybe VPN
server conf
Once upon a time, Always Learning said:
> Is systemd the beneficial, reliable, useful and workable "improved init
> system" or something with circa 275,000 lines of coding compared to
> init's circa 10,000 lines ? Things I have learned in programming
> include modular is better than monolithic, a
On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 10:40:13AM -0600, Johnny Hughes wrote:
> There is no plan B .. use it or use something else. Its not like
> Debian, Ubuntu, SUSE have decided to not use systemd.
Or, to put it another way, systemd _is_ plan B. Plan A was upstart. If
plan C comes along and is even better, t
On 01/26/2016 10:49 AM, Matthew Miller wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 10:40:13AM -0600, Johnny Hughes wrote:
>> There is no plan B .. use it or use something else. Its not like
>> Debian, Ubuntu, SUSE have decided to not use systemd.
>
> Or, to put it another way, systemd _is_ plan B. Plan A wa
On 01/24/2016 01:05 PM, Henry McLaughlin wrote:
> I have installed Sernet Samba however after installation I cannot confirm
> the version:
>
> samba -V
> bash: samba: command not found
While some people on this list might use the sernet same packages .. and
some of the sernet guys MIGHT even be o
On 01/26/2016 05:37 AM, lejeczek wrote:
vpn clients with established tunnels can get to VPN server's NICs/IPs
but cannot get through to the net behind the server.
Well... they can, but only if on a host (eg. 192.168.2.33) on VPN
server's net I do:
route add -host 192.168.2.10 gw 192.168.2.100
On 1/26/2016 9:14 AM, Gordon Messmer wrote:
On 01/26/2016 05:37 AM, lejeczek wrote:
vpn clients with established tunnels can get to VPN server's NICs/IPs
but cannot get through to the net behind the server.
Well... they can, but only if on a host (eg. 192.168.2.33) on VPN
server's net I do:
r
On Tue, 2016-01-26 at 10:47 -0600, Chris Adams wrote:
> Would you rather a bunch of that "magic" of PID 1 that systemd handles
> get shoved into the kernel (so that PID 1 isn't so special)?
Why should the systemd monolithic bloatware be shoved into the kernel,
especially when you claim the kerne
On Jan 26, 2016, at 8:20 AM, Sylvain CANOINE
wrote:
>
>> * track process lifecycle, and restart (or take other action) on
>> failure. (If software were perfect, this wouldn't be needed, but as
>> is, this can save you being paged in the middle of the night.)
>
> No. A software which falls down
_**_So I have epel enabled on this centos 6 server, but
yum -y install monit will not install monit.
yum search monit does not show monit as available to be installed.
[root@lb1 ~]# yum install monit
Loaded plugins: fastestmirror, presto
Setting up Install Process
Loading mirror speeds from cach
I am not 100% clear as to when the following is required in smb.conf on a
member server:
vfs objects = acl_xattr
map acl inherit = yes
store dos attributes = yes
https://wiki.samba.org/index.php/Shares_with_Windows_ACLs#Enable_extended_ACL_support_in_smb.conf
I have confirme
On Tue, 26 Jan 2016 14:06:37 -0500
Jason Welsh wrote:
> did a rpm -i of the file and that seems to install the file.. but why
> will it not install with yum?
Check /etc/yum.conf. You probably have that listed on an exclude line.
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On 27 January 2016 at 06:06, Henry McLaughlin wrote:
> I am not 100% clear as to when the following is required in smb.conf on a
> member server:
>
>vfs objects = acl_xattr
>map acl inherit = yes
>store dos attributes = yes
>
>
> https://wiki.samba.org/index.php/Shares_wit
guilty as charged... ugh.. thanks! ;)
Jason
Check /etc/yum.conf. You probably have that listed on an exclude line.
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On 01/26/2016 09:19 AM, John R Pierce wrote:
not in this case
You're right, of course. Someday I'll learn to just stay quiet when I'm
tired. :)
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