Re: [CentOS] 7.2 kernel panic on boot

2015-12-07 Thread Johnny Hughes
On 12/06/2015 10:11 PM, Greg Lindahl wrote: > On Sun, Dec 06, 2015 at 09:22:15PM -0500, Jonathan Billings wrote: >> On Sun, Dec 06, 2015 at 06:35:58PM +, Timothy Murphy wrote: >>> Always Learning wrote: >>> I always admire Johnny's prose, passion for Centos and his calm approach to ev

Re: [CentOS] 7.2 kernel panic on boot

2015-12-07 Thread Phelps, Matthew
On Dec 7, 2015 07:45, "Johnny Hughes" wrote: > > On 12/06/2015 10:11 PM, Greg Lindahl wrote: > > On Sun, Dec 06, 2015 at 09:22:15PM -0500, Jonathan Billings wrote: > >> On Sun, Dec 06, 2015 at 06:35:58PM +, Timothy Murphy wrote: > >>> Always Learning wrote: > >>> > I always admire Johnny'

Re: [CentOS] 7.2 kernel panic on boot

2015-12-07 Thread Johnny Hughes
On 12/06/2015 08:22 PM, Jonathan Billings wrote: > On Sun, Dec 06, 2015 at 06:35:58PM +, Timothy Murphy wrote: >> Always Learning wrote: >> >>> I always admire Johnny's prose, passion for Centos and his calm approach >>> to everything. >> >> Agreed. >> But two possibly OT and probably ignorant

Re: [CentOS] 7.2 kernel panic on boot

2015-12-07 Thread Jonathan Billings
On Mon, Dec 07, 2015 at 07:03:53AM -0600, Johnny Hughes wrote: > 1. The CentOS Release package does not get updated until the full > release. It will not be updated in CR repo, but will be part of the > final rollout which includes installable ISOs, etc. Neither will > Anaconda, which will also

Re: [CentOS] 7.2 kernel panic on boot

2015-12-07 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 07/12/15 04:11, Greg Lindahl wrote: > On Sun, Dec 06, 2015 at 09:22:15PM -0500, Jonathan Billings wrote: >> On Sun, Dec 06, 2015 at 06:35:58PM +, Timothy Murphy wrote: >>> Always Learning wrote: >>> I always admire Johnny's prose, passion for Centos and his calm approach to everyth

Re: [CentOS] 7.2 kernel panic on boot

2015-12-07 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 07/12/15 13:03, Johnny Hughes wrote: > 2. The Alternative Arches (i686, armhpc, aarch64) are not necessarily > updated as quickly as the main arches. That is one of the reasons they > are AltArch and not a main arch. However, we are working hard on all of > those as well. power7 and 8 ( bot

Re: [CentOS] 7.2 kernel panic on boot

2015-12-07 Thread Akemi Yagi
On Mon, Dec 7, 2015 at 4:45 AM, Johnny Hughes wrote: > On 12/06/2015 10:11 PM, Greg Lindahl wrote: (bit snip) >> Oh, wait: CentOS, love it or leave it. > > Correct. > > In fact, I would prefer you leave. No, I would prefer ALL of you leave. All of you who are not addressing the OP's issue should

Re: [CentOS] 7.2 kernel panic on boot

2015-12-07 Thread Timothy Murphy
Phelps, Matthew wrote: >> > Oh, wait: CentOS, love it or leave it. >> >> Correct. >> >> In fact, I would prefer you leave. > > Really? > > This is what we're dealing with now? > > OK. I will recommend we move away from CentOS. This seems to be raising what to me is a trivial issue to an absurd

[CentOS] Version numbering vis a vis CentOS and RHEL

2015-12-07 Thread Phelps, Matthew
OK, I'm staring a new thread. On Mon, Dec 7, 2015 at 9:53 AM, Timothy Murphy wrote: > Phelps, Matthew wrote: > > >> > Oh, wait: CentOS, love it or leave it. > >> > >> Correct. > >> > >> In fact, I would prefer you leave. > > > > Really? > > > > This is what we're dealing with now? > > > > OK. I

Re: [CentOS] Version numbering vis a vis CentOS and RHEL

2015-12-07 Thread John Hodrien
On Mon, 7 Dec 2015, Phelps, Matthew wrote: - Coordination of other repositories (e.g. EPEL) is based on the "version", how does that work now? Exactly the same as it did before. Before you'd have a $maj.$min repo, which is the same as it is now. maj=7 min=1.1503 You can park it there and no

Re: [CentOS] openvpn + routing

2015-12-07 Thread Helmut Drodofsky
Hello, there is one route missing: 128.0.0.0/1. config client: route-nopull redirect-gateway def1 bypass-dhcp best regards Helmut Viele Grüße Helmut Drodofsky Internet XS Service GmbH Heßbrühlstraße 15 70565 Stuttgart Geschäftsführung Dr.-Ing. Roswitha Hahn-Drodofsky HRB 21091 Stuttgar

Re: [CentOS] Version numbering vis a vis CentOS and RHEL

2015-12-07 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 07/12/15 15:52, John Hodrien wrote: > To me, I'm not sure I get any issues or advantages from the new scheme, > but I > can't say it bothers me greatly. This is the thing that bothers me most - that folks dont have a good grasp on what / why the numbering is working like this. We are still a

Re: [CentOS] Version numbering vis a vis CentOS and RHEL

2015-12-07 Thread Phelps, Matthew
On Mon, Dec 7, 2015 at 11:12 AM, Karanbir Singh wrote: > On 07/12/15 15:52, John Hodrien wrote: > > > To me, I'm not sure I get any issues or advantages from the new scheme, > > but I > > can't say it bothers me greatly. > > This is the thing that bothers me most - that folks dont have a good > g

Re: [CentOS] Version numbering vis a vis CentOS and RHEL

2015-12-07 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 07/12/15 16:17, Phelps, Matthew wrote: > > IRC is not a good choice for communicating with IT admins in a large > enterprise environment. It is usually blocked. > Does google hangout work ? we might be able to also setup a phone dial in setup -- Karanbir Singh +44-207-0999389 | http://www.k

Re: [CentOS] Version numbering vis a vis CentOS and RHEL

2015-12-07 Thread m . roth
1. Thank you, Matthew, for a new thread. This had nothing to do with the o/p of the old thread. 2. I'm not sure what more can possibly be said that hasn't already. Can we end this, unless the Board decides to solicit our opinion, and get back to solving issues? 3. Board of C

Re: [CentOS] Version numbering vis a vis CentOS and RHEL

2015-12-07 Thread Phelps, Matthew
On Mon, Dec 7, 2015 at 11:27 AM, Karanbir Singh wrote: > On 07/12/15 16:17, Phelps, Matthew wrote: > > > > IRC is not a good choice for communicating with IT admins in a large > > enterprise environment. It is usually blocked. > > > > Does google hangout work ? we might be able to also setup a ph

Re: [CentOS] openvpn + routing

2015-12-07 Thread m . roth
Helmut Drodofsky wrote: > Hello, > > there is one route missing: > > 128.0.0.0/1. > Did you mean 127.0.0.0? mark > config client: > route-nopull > redirect-gateway def1 bypass-dhcp > > best regards > Helmut > > Viele Grüße > Helmut Drodofsky > > Internet XS Service GmbH > Heßbrühlstraße 15

Re: [CentOS] openvpn + routing

2015-12-07 Thread John R Pierce
On 12/7/2015 8:40 AM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: >there is one route missing: > >128.0.0.0/1. > Did you mean 127.0.0.0? and I hope not /1 or that would encompass all networks with the first octet from 128-255 -- john r pierce, recycling bits in santa cruz

Re: [CentOS] 7.2 kernel panic on boot

2015-12-07 Thread Duncan Brown
On 07/12/2015 14:40, Akemi Yagi wrote: On Mon, Dec 7, 2015 at 4:45 AM, Johnny Hughes wrote: On 12/06/2015 10:11 PM, Greg Lindahl wrote: (bit snip) Oh, wait: CentOS, love it or leave it. Correct. In fact, I would prefer you leave. No, I would prefer ALL of you leave. All of you who are not

Re: [CentOS] 7.2 kernel panic on boot

2015-12-07 Thread Akemi Yagi
On Mon, Dec 7, 2015 at 10:18 AM, Duncan Brown wrote: > On 07/12/2015 14:40, Akemi Yagi wrote: >> >> This bug report: >> >> https://bugs.centos.org/view.php?id=9860 >> >> and its upstream (RH) reference: >> >> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1285235 >> >> might possibly be related to t

[CentOS] wifi on servers and fedora [was Re: 7.2 kernel panic on boot]

2015-12-07 Thread Matthew Miller
On Fri, Dec 04, 2015 at 09:03:50AM -0500, James B. Byrne wrote: > On Thu, Dec 03, 2015 at 02:50:38PM -0500, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: > > For laptops, great. For anything else, not so much. For example, > > it's supposed to be an *ENTERPRISE* o/s... why does it > > automatically, without ever asking,

Re: [CentOS] 7.2 kernel panic on boot

2015-12-07 Thread Marcelo Ricardo Leitner
Em 07-12-2015 16:35, Akemi Yagi escreveu: On Mon, Dec 7, 2015 at 10:18 AM, Duncan Brown wrote: On 07/12/2015 14:40, Akemi Yagi wrote: This bug report: https://bugs.centos.org/view.php?id=9860 and its upstream (RH) reference: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1285235 might poss

Re: [CentOS] About CentOS Marks

2015-12-07 Thread Jake Shipton
Takuya Yamamoto wrote: > Hello > > https://www.centos.org/legal/trademarks/ > > According to above, I found following message. > -- > Notwithstanding anything to the contrary provided in these Guidelines, the > following are examples of unacceptable uses: > > 1.Use of the Ce

Re: [CentOS] 7.2 kernel panic on boot

2015-12-07 Thread Duncan Brown
On 07/12/2015 18:35, Akemi Yagi wrote: On Mon, Dec 7, 2015 at 10:18 AM, Duncan Brown wrote: On 07/12/2015 14:40, Akemi Yagi wrote: This bug report: https://bugs.centos.org/view.php?id=9860 and its upstream (RH) reference: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1285235 might possibly b

Re: [CentOS] Centos 7 Yum conflict libicalss

2015-12-07 Thread Peter
On 07/12/15 18:55, John R Pierce wrote: > On 12/6/2015 9:28 PM, david wrote: >> Thanks for that. It appears to have solved the problem. I just >> wonder if it should have been taken care of "automatically" without my >> intervention, running nightly "yum -y update" commands. > > epel needs to fi

[CentOS] Using typescript as a default shell?

2015-12-07 Thread Benjamin Smith
Is it possible to use 'script' command that records what happens in a session as the default shell? How could you deal with multiple logins at once? What about output from rsync and the like? ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.cent

Re: [CentOS] Using typescript as a default shell?

2015-12-07 Thread Frank Cox
On Mon, 07 Dec 2015 11:21:13 -0800 Benjamin Smith wrote: > Is it possible to use 'script' command that records what happens in a session > as the default shell? How could you deal with multiple logins at once? What > about output from rsync and the like? What problem are you attempting to solv

Re: [CentOS] Using typescript as a default shell?

2015-12-07 Thread Benjamin Smith
On Monday, December 07, 2015 01:29:54 PM Frank Cox wrote: > Benjamin Smith wrote: > > Is it possible to use 'script' command that records what happens in a > > session as the default shell? How could you deal with multiple logins at > > once? What about output from rsync and the like? > > What pro

Re: [CentOS] wifi on servers and fedora [was Re: 7.2 kernel panic on boot]

2015-12-07 Thread m . roth
Matthew Miller wrote: > On Fri, Dec 04, 2015 at 09:03:50AM -0500, James B. Byrne wrote: >> On Thu, Dec 03, 2015 at 02:50:38PM -0500, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: >> > For laptops, great. For anything else, not so much. For example, >> > it's supposed to be an *ENTERPRISE* o/s... why does it >> > automat

Re: [CentOS] wifi on servers and fedora [was Re: 7.2 kernel panic on boot]

2015-12-07 Thread m . roth
Matthew Miller wrote: > On Fri, Dec 04, 2015 at 09:03:50AM -0500, James B. Byrne wrote: >> On Thu, Dec 03, 2015 at 02:50:38PM -0500, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: >> > For laptops, great. For anything else, not so much. For example, >> > it's supposed to be an *ENTERPRISE* o/s... why does it >> > automat

Re: [CentOS] 7.2 kernel panic on boot

2015-12-07 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 12/07/2015 06:31 AM, Karanbir Singh wrote: On 07/12/15 04:11, Greg Lindahl wrote: Oh, wait: CentOS, love it or leave it. I hope its not that drastic! As a member of the user community, it's hard to see it any other way. I want to be fair to everyone, so I'll acknowledge that Greg was maki

Re: [CentOS] Version numbering vis a vis CentOS and RHEL

2015-12-07 Thread Zdenek Sedlak
On 12/07/2015 05:46 PM, Phelps, Matthew wrote: > On Mon, Dec 7, 2015 at 11:27 AM, Karanbir Singh > wrote: > >> On 07/12/15 16:17, Phelps, Matthew wrote: >>> >>> IRC is not a good choice for communicating with IT admins in a large >>> enterprise environment. It is usually blocked. >>> >> >> Does g

Re: [CentOS] Using typescript as a default shell?

2015-12-07 Thread Jake Shipton
Benjamin Smith wrote: > On Monday, December 07, 2015 01:29:54 PM Frank Cox wrote: >> Benjamin Smith wrote: >>> Is it possible to use 'script' command that records what happens in a >>> session as the default shell? How could you deal with multiple logins at >>> once? What about output from rsync an

Re: [CentOS] Using typescript as a default shell?

2015-12-07 Thread Jonathan Billings
On Mon, Dec 07, 2015 at 11:40:08AM -0800, Benjamin Smith wrote: > We'd like to have an auditable history of what happened on production > servers, > kept for a period of time. (perhaps a week?) It's a very busy production > environment, but the only shell-level access to the systems are > admin

Re: [CentOS] Version numbering vis a vis CentOS and RHEL

2015-12-07 Thread Greg Lindahl
On Mon, Dec 07, 2015 at 08:57:01PM +0100, Zdenek Sedlak wrote: > AFAIK, the 7(1503) format is used only on the websites, and internally > CentOS uses 7.1.1503. Do you see this as an issue? Yes. It confuses humans. There have been a bunch of examples given of how it confuses humans. A simple fix f

[CentOS] A bareos question

2015-12-07 Thread m . roth
I've upgraded to 15.2, which has a webui. However, I'd like to tell it to use kerboros, not a hard-coded password in a configuration file. Any clues? mark ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos

Re: [CentOS] 7.2 kernel panic on boot

2015-12-07 Thread Warren Young
On Dec 7, 2015, at 12:54 PM, Gordon Messmer wrote: > > It has been my impression for a long time that the CentOS developers are > reluctant to engage the community in contributing to the project Who is “contributing” here? Where’s the patch? All I see is a bunch of bikeshedding. The new ver

Re: [CentOS] Version numbering vis a vis CentOS and RHEL

2015-12-07 Thread Warren Young
On Dec 7, 2015, at 1:52 PM, Greg Lindahl wrote: > > On Mon, Dec 07, 2015 at 08:57:01PM +0100, Zdenek Sedlak wrote: > >> AFAIK, the 7(1503) format is used only on the websites, and internally >> CentOS uses 7.1.1503. Do you see this as an issue? > > Yes. It confuses humans. There have been a bun

Re: [CentOS] wifi on servers and fedora [was Re: 7.2 kernel panic on boot]

2015-12-07 Thread Matthew Miller
On Mon, Dec 07, 2015 at 02:23:21PM -0500, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: > 1. Ignoring the several hundred log, etc, emails I deal with at work > every day, I'm currently on at least 5 mailing lists, including > this one, each ranging in business from 10-30 emails/day. I didn't say you have t

Re: [CentOS] 7.2 kernel panic on boot

2015-12-07 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 12/07/2015 02:35 PM, Warren Young wrote: The new version numbering scheme was created to solve a real problem, which CentOS has been fighting for years. I don't know how to be any more clear than I was. Neither Greg nor I (as far as I can tell) were suggesting that the version numbering b

Re: [CentOS] Version numbering vis a vis CentOS and RHEL

2015-12-07 Thread J Martin Rushton
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/12/15 22:37, Warren Young wrote: > On Dec 7, 2015, at 1:52 PM, Greg Lindahl wrote: >> >> On Mon, Dec 07, 2015 at 08:57:01PM +0100, Zdenek Sedlak wrote: >> >>> AFAIK, the 7(1503) format is used only on the websites, and >>> internally CentOS us

Re: [CentOS] Version numbering vis a vis CentOS and RHEL

2015-12-07 Thread Greg Lindahl
On Mon, Dec 07, 2015 at 03:37:27PM -0700, Warren Young wrote: > On Dec 7, 2015, at 1:52 PM, Greg Lindahl wrote: > > Yes. It confuses humans. There have been a bunch of examples given of > > how it confuses humans. A simple fix for this human issue is to use > > 7.1.1503 on the website, here on the

Re: [CentOS] yum errors

2015-12-07 Thread Wes James
> On Nov 20, 2015, at 11:55 AM, Wes James wrote: > >> >> On Nov 20, 2015, at 10:41 AM, Jim Perrin wrote: >> >> It should be looking at /6/ instead of a specific point release. We >> (CentOS) do not provide updates for individual point releases. You are >> several years behind in security and

Re: [CentOS] yum errors

2015-12-07 Thread Wes James
> On Dec 7, 2015, at 8:03 PM, Wes James wrote: > > I finally just did yum update on this box (actually 6.3) and now it is 6.7. > During the update it created a CentOS-Base.repo.rpmnew file. I renamed my > current one and this one to just .repo and now I again get: > > > > yum upda

Re: [CentOS] yum errors

2015-12-07 Thread Wes James
> On Dec 7, 2015, at 8:23 PM, Wes James wrote: > > >> On Dec 7, 2015, at 8:03 PM, Wes James wrote: >> > > > >> I finally just did yum update on this box (actually 6.3) and now it is 6.7. >> During the update it created a CentOS-Base.repo.rpmnew file. I renamed my >> current one and thi

Re: [CentOS] yum errors

2015-12-07 Thread Wes James
> On Dec 7, 2015, at 8:37 PM, Wes James wrote: > >> >> On Dec 7, 2015, at 8:23 PM, Wes James > > wrote: >> >> >>> On Dec 7, 2015, at 8:03 PM, Wes James wrote: >>> >> >> >> >>> I finally just did yum update on this box (actually 6.3) and now it is 6.7. >>> Durin

Re: [CentOS] yum errors

2015-12-07 Thread Jake Shipton
Wes James wrote: > >> On Dec 7, 2015, at 8:37 PM, Wes James wrote: >> >>> >>> On Dec 7, 2015, at 8:23 PM, Wes James >> > wrote: >>> >>> On Dec 7, 2015, at 8:03 PM, Wes James wrote: >>> >>> >>> I finally just did yum update on this box (actually 6.3) and n

Re: [CentOS] yum errors

2015-12-07 Thread Wes James
> On Dec 7, 2015, at 10:02 PM, Jake Shipton wrote: > > Wes James wrote: >> >>> On Dec 7, 2015, at 8:37 PM, Wes James wrote: >>> On Dec 7, 2015, at 8:23 PM, Wes James >>> > wrote: > On Dec 7, 2015, at 8:03 PM, Wes James wrote: > >

Re: [CentOS] yum errors

2015-12-07 Thread Rob Kampen
On 12/08/2015 06:50 PM, Wes James wrote: On Dec 7, 2015, at 10:02 PM, Jake Shipton wrote: Wes James wrote: On Dec 7, 2015, at 8:37 PM, Wes James wrote: On Dec 7, 2015, at 8:23 PM, Wes James mailto:compte...@me.com>> wrote: On Dec 7, 2015, at 8:03 PM, Wes James wrote: I finally just

Re: [CentOS] Version numbering vis a vis CentOS and RHEL

2015-12-07 Thread James Hogarth
On 7 Dec 2015 23:43, "J Martin Rushton" wrote: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 07/12/15 22:37, Warren Young wrote: > > On Dec 7, 2015, at 1:52 PM, Greg Lindahl wrote: > >> > >> On Mon, Dec 07, 2015 at 08:57:01PM +0100, Zdenek Sedlak wrote: > >> > >>> AFAIK, the 7(1503)