[CentOS] to lvm or not to lvm - why/when to use lvm

2013-09-26 Thread Götz Reinicke - IT Koordinator
Hi, I was wondering, why/when it is useful or when should I avoid to use LVM. I think the big advantage of LVMing is if you modify (rezising, ...) disk and filesystem layouts "a lot". Are there any real pros or cons for following situations regarding e.g. management and speed? e.g.: I do have

Re: [CentOS] Best Practice to remove an ISCSI LVM from a system

2013-09-26 Thread Götz Reinicke - IT Koordinator
Am 25.09.13 16:12, schrieb m.r...@5-cent.us: > Götz Reinicke - IT Koordinator wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I'd like to know what would be the best way to remove an iscsi lvm >> storage from a server. (removing all reference to that storage etc.) >> >> The storage in question will be reset and reformated and

Re: [CentOS] Best Practice to remove an ISCSI LVM from a system

2013-09-26 Thread Götz Reinicke - IT Koordinator
Am 25.09.13 17:10, schrieb Ian Pilcher: > On 09/25/2013 08:58 AM, Götz Reinicke - IT Koordinator wrote: >> I'd like to know what would be the best way to remove an iscsi lvm >> storage from a server. (removing all reference to that storage etc.) > > My approach would be: > > * Disable all volume

Re: [CentOS] Best Practice to remove an ISCSI LVM from a system

2013-09-26 Thread Götz Reinicke - IT Koordinator
Am 25.09.13 20:01, schrieb John R Pierce: > On 9/25/2013 6:58 AM, Götz Reinicke - IT Koordinator wrote: >> I'd like to know what would be the best way to remove an iscsi lvm >> storage from a server. (removing all reference to that storage etc.) >> >> The storage in question will be reset and refor

Re: [CentOS] to lvm or not to lvm - why/when to use lvm

2013-09-26 Thread James A. Peltier
- Original Message - | Hi, | | I was wondering, why/when it is useful or when should I avoid to use | LVM. | | I think the big advantage of LVMing is if you modify (rezising, ...) | disk and filesystem layouts "a lot". | | Are there any real pros or cons for following situations regardin

Re: [CentOS] to lvm or not to lvm - why/when to use lvm

2013-09-26 Thread James A. Peltier
- Original Message - | - Original Message - | | Hi, | | | | I was wondering, why/when it is useful or when should I avoid to | | use | | LVM. | | | | I think the big advantage of LVMing is if you modify (rezising, | | ...) | | disk and filesystem layouts "a lot". | | | | Are ther

Re: [CentOS] scanner only works in su mode

2013-09-26 Thread bmcclure
On Thu, 2013-09-26 at 00:14 -0500, Michael Hennebry wrote: > On Wed, 25 Sep 2013, Robert Heller wrote: > > > At Wed, 25 Sep 2013 13:34:51 -0600 CentOS mailing list > > wrote: > > > The proper cure for this is to add yourself to the group that udev puts the > > device in. Look in /etc/udev/r

[CentOS] OT: Webcam with microphone compatible with CentOS 6

2013-09-26 Thread C. L. Martinez
Hi all, Any recommendation about some webcam with microphone?? I need to buy one to use skype. Thanks. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos

Re: [CentOS] OT: Webcam with microphone compatible with CentOS 6

2013-09-26 Thread Akemi Yagi
On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 7:49 AM, C. L. Martinez wrote: > Hi all, > > Any recommendation about some webcam with microphone?? I need to buy > one to use skype. I have 'Logitech HD Webcam C525' on a few of my EL 6 machines. It worked out of the box. No problem with skype. Akemi ___

Re: [CentOS] scanner only works in su mode

2013-09-26 Thread Michael Hennebry
On Thu, 26 Sep 2013, Robert Heller wrote: > It looks like to use the scanner you need to edit your /etc/group file or use > the user manager to add yourself to the lp group. That did not work. I ran a separate login to get one that admitted I was in the lp group. Applying strace to hp-scan told m

Re: [CentOS] scanner only works in su mode

2013-09-26 Thread m . roth
Michael Hennebry wrote: > On Thu, 26 Sep 2013, Robert Heller wrote: > >> It looks like to use the scanner you need to edit your /etc/group file >> or use the user manager to add yourself to the lp group. > > That did not work. > I ran a separate login to get one that admitted I was in the lp group.

[CentOS] erase disk

2013-09-26 Thread Phil Dobbin
Hi. I have a CentOS server (a Dell 860) with two drives in it. One is running CentOS 6.4 which I want to keep & the bigger 400GB drive has Debian 7 on it which I want to erase & use for backups. Which is the best way to go about achieving my intended goal? The Debian drive is not mounted when

Re: [CentOS] erase disk

2013-09-26 Thread Bret Taylor
Burn a DBAN disk. Shutdown, pull out the drive you want to keep. Boot to the dban disk, when prompted type autonuke, wait for the process to complete. Shutdown, reinsert the centos drive you wanted to keep. You will now have your centos main drive, and a blank backup disk. You'll need to run mkf

Re: [CentOS] scanner only works in su mode

2013-09-26 Thread zGreenfelder
On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 2:08 PM, Michael Hennebry < henne...@web.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu> wrote: > On Thu, 26 Sep 2013, Robert Heller wrote: > > > It looks like to use the scanner you need to edit your /etc/group file > or use > > the user manager to add yourself to the lp group. > > That did not work.

Re: [CentOS] erase disk

2013-09-26 Thread m . roth
Bret Taylor wrote: > Phil Dobbin wrote: >> >>I have a CentOS server (a Dell 860) with two drives in it. >>One is running CentOS 6.4 which I want to keep & the bigger 400GB drive >>has Debian 7 on it which I want to erase & use for backups. >>Which is the best way to go about achieving my intended

Re: [CentOS] erase disk

2013-09-26 Thread Bret Taylor
Better safe than sorry. Even if people think it's "overkill". There's paranoid, and then there's best practice; in my mind they're one in the same. m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: >Bret Taylor wrote: >> Phil Dobbin wrote: >>> >>>I have a CentOS server (a Dell 860) with two drives in it. >>>One is runnin

Re: [CentOS] scanner only works in su mode

2013-09-26 Thread m . roth
Michael Hennebry wrote: > On Thu, 26 Sep 2013, Robert Heller wrote: > >> It looks like to use the scanner you need to edit your /etc/group file or use the user manager to add yourself to the lp group. > > That did not work. > I ran a separate login to get one that admitted I was in the lp group. Ap

Re: [CentOS] erase disk

2013-09-26 Thread John R Pierce
On 9/26/2013 11:30 AM, Phil Dobbin wrote: > I have a CentOS server (a Dell 860) with two drives in it. > > One is running CentOS 6.4 which I want to keep & the bigger 400GB drive > has Debian 7 on it which I want to erase & use for backups. > > Which is the best way to go about achieving my intende

Re: [CentOS] erase disk

2013-09-26 Thread m . roth
Please don't top post. Bret Taylor wrote: > m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: >>Bret Taylor wrote: >>> Phil Dobbin wrote: I have a CentOS server (a Dell 860) with two drives in it. One is running CentOS 6.4 which I want to keep & the bigger 400GB >>drive has Debian 7 on it which I want to eras

Re: [CentOS] erase disk

2013-09-26 Thread zGreenfelder
On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 3:33 PM, John R Pierce wrote: > On 9/26/2013 11:30 AM, Phil Dobbin wrote: > > I have a CentOS server (a Dell 860) with two drives in it. > > > > One is running CentOS 6.4 which I want to keep & the bigger 400GB drive > > has Debian 7 on it which I want to erase & use for b

Re: [CentOS] erase disk

2013-09-26 Thread Paul Heinlein
On Thu, 26 Sep 2013, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: Burn a DBAN disk [] Then put the dban disk on the shelf over your desk [...] Then make it available via PXE, though with a DANGER warning in your PXE menu :-). -- Paul Heinlein heinl...@madboa.com 45°38' N, 122°6' W_

Re: [CentOS] to lvm or not to lvm - why/when to use lvm

2013-09-26 Thread Rob Kampen
On 09/26/2013 09:35 PM, James A. Peltier wrote: - Original Message - | - Original Message - | | Hi, | | | | I was wondering, why/when it is useful or when should I avoid to | | use | | LVM. | | | | I think the big advantage of LVMing is if you modify (rezising, | | ...) | | disk

Re: [CentOS] to lvm or not to lvm - why/when to use lvm

2013-09-26 Thread Antonio da Silva Martins Junior
- "Rob Kampen" escreveu: > De: "Rob Kampen" > Para: "CentOS mailing list" > Enviadas: Quinta-feira, 26 de Setembro de 2013 17:11:06 (GMT-0300) > Auto-Detected > Assunto: Re: [CentOS] to lvm or not to lvm - why/when to use lvm > > On 09/26/2013 09:35 PM, James A. Peltier wrote: > > - O

Re: [CentOS] Creating 38TB ext4 FS

2013-09-26 Thread Peter Wood
Very useful information John. Thank you. (Your email slipped through the cracks and I just saw it by accident. I'm happy I didn't loose it.) On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 3:21 PM, John R Pierce wrote: > On 9/20/2013 2:27 PM, Peter Wood wrote: > > XFS worked. Thanks a lot. > > for large xfs file syste

Re: [CentOS] OT: Webcam with microphone compatible with CentOS 6

2013-09-26 Thread carlopmart
On 26/09/13 17:27, Akemi Yagi wrote: > On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 7:49 AM, C. L. Martinez wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> Any recommendation about some webcam with microphone?? I need to buy >> one to use skype. > > I have 'Logitech HD Webcam C525' on a few of my EL 6 machines. It > worked out of the box

Re: [CentOS] Creating 38TB ext4 FS

2013-09-26 Thread Keith Keller
On 2013-09-20, John R Pierce wrote: > for large xfs file systems, be sure to mount with option inode64. There are a bunch of FAQ entries at the XFS site about this issue. Here's one of them: http://xfs.org/index.php/XFS_FAQ#Q:_What_is_the_inode64_mount_option_for.3F The other issues about using

Re: [CentOS] Creating 38TB ext4 FS

2013-09-26 Thread John R Pierce
On 9/26/2013 2:27 PM, Keith Keller wrote: > So following up on that, I have a question: I have a largish XFS > filesystem which is currently not mounted inode64. I would like to know > how close I am to filling up the inodes in the first 1TB, so that I know > how urgent it is for me to migrate to

Re: [CentOS] erase disk

2013-09-26 Thread SilverTip257
On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 3:47 PM, Paul Heinlein wrote: > On Thu, 26 Sep 2013, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: > > Burn a DBAN disk [] >>> >> >> Then put the dban disk on the shelf over your desk [...] >> > Eh, I don't really think dban is necessary. Probably more than an fdisk and creating a file sy

Re: [CentOS] erase disk

2013-09-26 Thread Paul Heinlein
On Thu, 26 Sep 2013, SilverTip257 wrote: Eh, I don't really think dban is necessary. Probably more than an fdisk and creating a file system is overkill. My policies are work are simple: 1. Re-use by same employee: stick with filesystem tools. 2. Re-use within company: single-pass zeroing o

Re: [CentOS] to lvm or not to lvm - why/when to use lvm

2013-09-26 Thread James A. Peltier
- Original Message - | | On 09/26/2013 09:35 PM, James A. Peltier wrote: | > - Original Message - | > | - Original Message - | > | | Hi, | > | | | > | | I was wondering, why/when it is useful or when should I avoid | > | | to | > | | use | > | | LVM. | > | | | > | | I think

Re: [CentOS] OT: Webcam with microphone compatible with CentOS 6

2013-09-26 Thread zGreenfelder
On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 5:02 PM, carlopmart wrote: > > > On 26/09/13 17:27, Akemi Yagi wrote: > > On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 7:49 AM, C. L. Martinez > wrote: > >> Hi all, > >> > >> Any recommendation about some webcam with microphone?? I need to buy > >> one to use skype. > > > > I have 'Logitech

Re: [CentOS] OT: Webcam with microphone compatible with CentOS 6

2013-09-26 Thread Fred Smith
On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 06:19:39PM -0400, zGreenfelder wrote: > On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 5:02 PM, carlopmart wrote: > > > > > > > On 26/09/13 17:27, Akemi Yagi wrote: > > > On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 7:49 AM, C. L. Martinez > > wrote: > > >> Hi all, > > >> > > >> Any recommendation about some webc

Re: [CentOS] erase disk

2013-09-26 Thread Bret Taylor
Paul Heinlein wrote: >On Thu, 26 Sep 2013, SilverTip257 wrote: > >> Eh, I don't really think dban is necessary. Probably more than an >> fdisk and creating a file system is overkill. > >My policies are work are simple: > > 1. Re-use by same employee: stick with filesystem tools. > 2. Re-use wi

Re: [CentOS] erase disk

2013-09-26 Thread Steve Thompson
On Thu, 26 Sep 2013, Bret Taylor wrote: > A fairly simple solution is > dd if=/dev/zero (or urandom) of=/dev/(device) I usually hit the disk with a hammer. Satisfying :-) -s ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/list

Re: [CentOS] Creating 38TB ext4 FS

2013-09-26 Thread g
On 09/26/2013 04:27 PM, Keith Keller wrote: <> > So following up on that, I have a question: I have a largish XFS > filesystem which is currently not mounted inode64. I would like to know > how close I am to filling up the inodes in the first 1TB, so that I know > how urgent it is for me to mig

Re: [CentOS] Creating 38TB ext4 FS

2013-09-26 Thread John R Pierce
On 9/26/2013 2:27 PM, Keith Keller wrote: > so that I know > how urgent it is for me to migrate to inode64. you realize, 'migrate' is trivial? mount -o remount,inode64 /dev/whatever and replace 'defaults' with 'inode64' on the line in /etc/fstab so it does it next time too. thats it. -- jo

Re: [CentOS] Creating 38TB ext4 FS

2013-09-26 Thread Keith Keller
On 2013-09-26, John R Pierce wrote: > On 9/26/2013 2:27 PM, Keith Keller wrote: >> so that I know >> how urgent it is for me to migrate to inode64. > > you realize, 'migrate' is trivial? Yes. I also realize that I have NFS clients and am exporting a subdirectory, so I want to reorganize my share

Re: [CentOS] Creating 38TB ext4 FS

2013-09-26 Thread John R Pierce
On 9/26/2013 6:54 PM, Keith Keller wrote: > Yes. I also realize that I have NFS clients and am exporting a > subdirectory, so I want to reorganize my share to export the top-level > directory instead. Since this involves a disruptive change to my > clients I need to schedule such work, ideally at

Re: [CentOS] Creating 38TB ext4 FS

2013-09-26 Thread g
On 09/26/2013 06:28 PM, John R Pierce wrote: > On 9/26/2013 2:27 PM, Keith Keller wrote: >> so that I know >> how urgent it is for me to migrate to inode64. > > you realize, 'migrate' is trivial? > > mount -o remount,inode64 /dev/whatever > > and replace 'defaults' with 'inode64' on the line in /

Re: [CentOS] Creating 38TB ext4 FS

2013-09-26 Thread Keith Keller
On 2013-09-27, g wrote: > > would you please explain on using 'inode64' in 'fstab'. It's a mount option, so goes in the fourth column with the other mount options (comma-separated). --keith -- kkel...@wombat.san-francisco.ca.us ___ CentOS mailing l

Re: [CentOS] Creating 38TB ext4 FS

2013-09-26 Thread g
On 09/26/2013 10:44 PM, Keith Keller wrote: > On 2013-09-27, g wrote: >> >> would you please explain on using 'inode64' in 'fstab'. > > It's a mount option, so goes in the fourth column with the other mount > options (comma-separated). yes, i understand mount options. i do not find it listed in

Re: [CentOS] Creating 38TB ext4 FS

2013-09-26 Thread John R Pierce
On 9/26/2013 9:30 PM, g wrote: > yes, i understand mount options. i do not find it listed in > 'man fstab' for the clone that i am currently using. > > looks like i will have to wait until i get centos iso downloaded > and installed so i can move out of os i am currently using. its an xfs specifi

Re: [CentOS] Creating 38TB ext4 FS

2013-09-26 Thread g
On 09/26/2013 11:54 PM, John R Pierce wrote: > On 9/26/2013 9:30 PM, g wrote: >> yes, i understand mount options. i do not find it listed in ^ >> 'man fstab' for the clone that i am currently using. ^ >> >> looks like i will have to wait until i get

Re: [CentOS] OT: Webcam with microphone compatible with CentOS 6

2013-09-26 Thread C. L. Martinez
On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 10:19 PM, zGreenfelder wrote: > On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 5:02 PM, carlopmart wrote: > >> >> >> On 26/09/13 17:27, Akemi Yagi wrote: >> > On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 7:49 AM, C. L. Martinez >> wrote: >> >> Hi all, >> >> >> >> Any recommendation about some webcam with micropho

Re: [CentOS] Creating 38TB ext4 FS

2013-09-26 Thread g
On 09/27/2013 12:53 AM, g wrote: > > > On 09/26/2013 11:54 PM, John R Pierce wrote: >> On 9/26/2013 9:30 PM, g wrote: >>> yes, i understand mount options. i do not find it listed in >^ >>> 'man fstab' for the clone that i am currently using. > ^ >