Re: [CentOS] Not Quite Minimal CentOS 6.2

2012-04-26 Thread Johnny Hughes
On 04/26/2012 01:12 PM, Les Mikesell wrote: > On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 1:09 PM, Lamar Owen wrote: >>> Yes, that's a horrible thing for servers. >> I've said it before, and I'll say it again: enterprise != servers. > How's that? What kind of enterprise doesn't have some servers with > nailed down N

Re: [CentOS] Not Quite Minimal CentOS 6.2

2012-04-26 Thread Les Mikesell
On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 1:34 PM, Lamar Owen wrote: > >> >> Yes, that's a horrible thing for servers. >> > I've said it before, and I'll say it again: enterprise != servers. > >> How's that? > > A distribution being an 'enterprise' distribution does not equate with that > distribution being an (ex

Re: [CentOS] Not Quite Minimal CentOS 6.2

2012-04-26 Thread Lamar Owen
On Thursday, April 26, 2012 02:12:20 PM Les Mikesell wrote: > On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 1:09 PM, Lamar Owen wrote: > >> Yes, that's a horrible thing for servers. > > I've said it before, and I'll say it again: enterprise != servers. > How's that? A distribution being an 'enterprise' distributio

Re: [CentOS] Not Quite Minimal CentOS 6.2

2012-04-26 Thread Les Mikesell
On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 1:09 PM, Lamar Owen wrote: > >> Yes, that's a horrible thing for servers. > > I've said it before, and I'll say it again: enterprise != servers. How's that? What kind of enterprise doesn't have some servers with nailed down NICs? -- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail

Re: [CentOS] Not Quite Minimal CentOS 6.2

2012-04-26 Thread Lamar Owen
On Thursday, April 26, 2012 01:28:04 PM Les Mikesell wrote: > On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 11:36 AM, James B. Byrne > wrote: > > Now, consider upstream's decision to enable network-manager by default on an > > enterprise distro. THAT I both understand and fundamentally disagree with. > Yes, that's a

Re: [CentOS] Not Quite Minimal CentOS 6.2

2012-04-26 Thread Les Mikesell
On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 11:36 AM, James B. Byrne wrote: > > I used to think the same thing.  However, on reflection I think that the > decision > to keep the network down until deliberately enabled is a sensible and prudent > security choice.  This leaves up to the operator the decision as to whe

Re: [CentOS] Not Quite Minimal CentOS 6.2

2012-04-26 Thread James B. Byrne
On Thu, April 26, 2012 08:55, Johnny Hughes wrote: >> It has the network stack ... you must configure it during the install. >> >> If you do not configure and enable the ethernet card then it does not >> turn on by default ... but it is in the installer to be able to do: >> >> http://wiki.centos.

Re: [CentOS] Not Quite Minimal CentOS 6.2

2012-04-26 Thread Johnny Hughes
________ > From: Johnny Hughes > To: centos@centos.org > Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2012 6:04 PM > Subject: Re: [CentOS] Not Quite Minimal CentOS 6.2 > > On 04/24/2012 08:53 PM, Al Sparks wrote: >> I recently did a minimal 6.2 install recently, and it

Re: [CentOS] Not Quite Minimal CentOS 6.2

2012-04-26 Thread fred smith
On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 11:02:49PM -0700, Al Sparks wrote: > > > You're right. The stack was there. > > First, I was inaccurate when I said I installed 6.2.  I actually installed > 6.0, and later updated via yum. > > Second, yeah I was able to start the network service, so there was a stack. 

Re: [CentOS] Not Quite Minimal CentOS 6.2

2012-04-24 Thread Al Sparks
l process, I was pretty sure I had.  For some reason it didn't take.  Maybe I didn't click a save box when I should have.  I don't know.     === Al From: Johnny Hughes To: centos@centos.org Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2012 6:04 PM Subject: Re: [CentOS]

Re: [CentOS] Not Quite Minimal CentOS 6.2

2012-04-24 Thread Johnny Hughes
On 04/24/2012 08:53 PM, Al Sparks wrote: > I recently did a minimal 6.2 install recently, and it was annoying that it > didn't include the network stack. > > What use is an install w/o the network? > It has the network stack ... you must configure it during the install. If you do not configure a

Re: [CentOS] Not Quite Minimal CentOS 6.2

2012-04-24 Thread Al Sparks
t: Re: [CentOS] Not Quite Minimal CentOS 6.2 On 4/24/2012 7:22 PM, listmail wrote: > I a working on configuring a not-quite minimal installation of CentOS 6.2. I > tried doing the "minimal" installation available with the installer, but it's > a bit too minimal to be useful. So

Re: [CentOS] Not Quite Minimal CentOS 6.2

2012-04-24 Thread Bob Hoffman
On 4/24/2012 7:22 PM, listmail wrote: > I a working on configuring a not-quite minimal installation of CentOS 6.2. I > tried doing the "minimal" installation available with the installer, but it's > a bit too minimal to be useful. So I'm cutting down from a less minimal > starting place. I'm pretty

Re: [CentOS] Not Quite Minimal CentOS 6.2

2012-04-24 Thread listmail
On Tue, 24 Apr 2012 16:22:17 -0700, listmail wrote > Also, any > ideas as to what would be launching cups would be appreciated. > I answered one of my own questions: cups was being started by the VMware tools startup script. I fixed this for now by editing the VMware startup script and removing