Re: [CentOS] iSCSI best practices

2011-12-12 Thread Drew
> Isn't that D-Link DSN-5110 series a rebadged Dot Hill box? Rebranded iStor Networks iS512. Incidentally iStor was bought out by Promise so they now OEM the product line for D-Link. -- Drew "Nothing in life is to be feared. It is only to be understood." --Marie Curie _

Re: [CentOS] iSCSI best practices

2011-12-12 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 12.12.2011 23:25, schrieb m.r...@5-cent.us: > Reindl Harald wrote: >> >> >> Am 12.12.2011 22:37, schrieb m.r...@5-cent.us: >>> Reindl Harald wrote: get the right hardware and you do not have this problem http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/us/en/sm/WF04a/12169-304616-241493-241493-241493.

Re: [CentOS] iSCSI best practices

2011-12-12 Thread m . roth
Reindl Harald wrote: > > > Am 12.12.2011 22:37, schrieb m.r...@5-cent.us: >> Reindl Harald wrote: >>> get the right hardware and you do not have this problem >>> http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/us/en/sm/WF04a/12169-304616-241493-241493-241493.html >>> >>> you have TWO of all components with hotplug

Re: [CentOS] iSCSI best practices

2011-12-12 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 12.12.2011 22:37, schrieb m.r...@5-cent.us: > Reindl Harald wrote: >> get the right hardware and you do not have this problem >> http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/us/en/sm/WF04a/12169-304616-241493-241493-241493.html >> >> you have TWO of all components with hotplug > > Until you have a fire, or

Re: [CentOS] iSCSI best practices

2011-12-12 Thread Patrick Lists
On 12-12-11 22:11, Drew wrote: >>> no, its done with replication over a private channel between the storage >>> controllers. standard feature on all redundant controller >>> hardware/appliance storage controllers such as IBM DS series, HP MSA, >>> etc etc. >> >> EMC Clariion CX/CX3/CX4 and VNX, a

Re: [CentOS] iSCSI best practices

2011-12-12 Thread m . roth
Reindl Harald wrote: > Am 12.12.2011 15:13, schrieb Rudi Ahlers: >> On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 3:52 PM, Reindl Harald >> wrote: >>> Am 12.12.2011 14:49, schrieb lheck...@users.sourceforge.net: > Outage is one thing, but having the disk volumes disappear > mid-transaction can be detriment

Re: [CentOS] iSCSI best practices

2011-12-12 Thread Drew
>> no, its done with replication over a private channel between the storage >> controllers.   standard feature on all redundant controller >> hardware/appliance storage controllers such as IBM DS series, HP MSA, >> etc etc. > > EMC Clariion CX/CX3/CX4 and VNX, also. Ditto D-Link's DSN-5110 series.

Re: [CentOS] iSCSI best practices

2011-12-12 Thread Digimer
On 12/12/2011 02:02 PM, John R Pierce wrote: > On 12/12/11 10:23 AM, Digimer wrote: >> Shared cache is, I think, a single-point-of-failure. > > no, its done with replication over a private channel between the storage > controllers. standard feature on all redundant controller > hardware/applia

Re: [CentOS] iSCSI best practices

2011-12-12 Thread Lamar Owen
On Monday, December 12, 2011 02:02:41 PM John R Pierce wrote: > On 12/12/11 10:23 AM, Digimer wrote: > > Shared cache is, I think, a single-point-of-failure. > > no, its done with replication over a private channel between the storage > controllers. standard feature on all redundant controller

Re: [CentOS] iSCSI best practices

2011-12-12 Thread John R Pierce
On 12/12/11 10:23 AM, Digimer wrote: > Shared cache is, I think, a single-point-of-failure. no, its done with replication over a private channel between the storage controllers. standard feature on all redundant controller hardware/appliance storage controllers such as IBM DS series, HP MSA,

Re: [CentOS] iSCSI best practices

2011-12-12 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 12.12.2011 19:17, schrieb John R Pierce: > On 12/12/11 6:43 AM, Digimer wrote: >> I handle this by setting up two servers running DRBD in active/active >> with a simple two-node red hat cluster managing a floating IP address. >> The storage network link uses a simple Active/Passive (mode=1) bo

Re: [CentOS] iSCSI best practices

2011-12-12 Thread Digimer
On 12/12/2011 01:17 PM, John R Pierce wrote: > On 12/12/11 6:43 AM, Digimer wrote: >> I handle this by setting up two servers running DRBD in active/active >> with a simple two-node red hat cluster managing a floating IP address. >> The storage network link uses a simple Active/Passive (mode=1) bon

Re: [CentOS] iSCSI best practices

2011-12-12 Thread John R Pierce
On 12/12/11 6:43 AM, Digimer wrote: > I handle this by setting up two servers running DRBD in active/active > with a simple two-node red hat cluster managing a floating IP address. > The storage network link uses a simple Active/Passive (mode=1) bond with > either link go to separate switches. DRB

Re: [CentOS] iSCSI best practices

2011-12-12 Thread Lamar Owen
On Monday, December 12, 2011 09:13:13 AM Rudi Ahlers wrote: > And then you still have the iSCSI applicance / server to worry about. > It can fail as well. Even with redundancy PSU's it could fail - the > RAM, CPU, motherboard, controller card, expensive RAID card, etc can > fail as well. These pro

Re: [CentOS] iSCSI best practices

2011-12-12 Thread Digimer
On 12/12/2011 09:13 AM, Rudi Ahlers wrote: > On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 3:52 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: >> >> >> Am 12.12.2011 14:49, schrieb lheck...@users.sourceforge.net: >>> Outage is one thing, but having the disk volumes disappear mid-transaction can be detrimental to a file system's h

Re: [CentOS] iSCSI best practices

2011-12-12 Thread John Hodrien
On Mon, 12 Dec 2011, lheck...@users.sourceforge.net wrote: > >> Outage is one thing, but having the disk volumes disappear mid-transaction >> can be detrimental to a file system's health. > > To get this back on-topic and closer to the OP's requests, are there any > particular iscsi settings one

Re: [CentOS] iSCSI best practices

2011-12-12 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 12.12.2011 15:13, schrieb Rudi Ahlers: > On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 3:52 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: >> >> >> Am 12.12.2011 14:49, schrieb lheck...@users.sourceforge.net: >>> Outage is one thing, but having the disk volumes disappear mid-transaction can be detrimental to a file system's

Re: [CentOS] iSCSI best practices

2011-12-12 Thread Rudi Ahlers
On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 3:52 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: > > > Am 12.12.2011 14:49, schrieb lheck...@users.sourceforge.net: >> >>> Outage is one thing, but having the disk volumes disappear mid-transaction >>> can be detrimental to a file system's health. >> >>  To get this back on-topic and closer

Re: [CentOS] iSCSI best practices

2011-12-12 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 12.12.2011 14:49, schrieb lheck...@users.sourceforge.net: > >> Outage is one thing, but having the disk volumes disappear mid-transaction >> can be detrimental to a file system's health. > > To get this back on-topic and closer to the OP's requests, are there any > particular iscsi setti

Re: [CentOS] iSCSI best practices

2011-12-12 Thread lhecking
> Outage is one thing, but having the disk volumes disappear mid-transaction > can be detrimental to a file system's health. To get this back on-topic and closer to the OP's requests, are there any particular iscsi settings one should consider to increase resiliency and minimise the impact o

Re: [CentOS] iSCSI best practices

2011-12-10 Thread John R Pierce
On 12/10/11 8:56 PM, Ryan Wagoner wrote: >> So 2 questions : >> > - how important is it to have it on its own network? >> > - is it OK to use an unmanaged switch (as long as it is Gigabit), or are >> > there some features of a managed switch that are desirable/required with >> > iSCSI? >> > > A

Re: [CentOS] iSCSI best practices

2011-12-10 Thread Ryan Wagoner
On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 11:27 AM, Alan McKay wrote: > So 2 questions : > - how important is it to have it on its own network? > - is it OK to use an unmanaged switch (as long as it is Gigabit), or are > there some features of a managed switch that are desirable/required with > iSCSI? > At the ver

Re: [CentOS] iSCSI best practices

2011-12-10 Thread Ross Walker
On Dec 10, 2011, at 2:36 PM, Alan McKay wrote: >> >> LOL! Cisco. If I told you that that particular device used to be called >> Linksys, would it change your opinion of the device? I've got a Linksys >> ADSL gateway that I'm quite sure couldn't keep up with the Dell. In fact, >> I used to hav

Re: [CentOS] iSCSI best practices

2011-12-10 Thread Alan McKay
> > LOL! Cisco. If I told you that that particular device used to be called > Linksys, would it change your opinion of the device? I've got a Linksys > ADSL gateway that I'm quite sure couldn't keep up with the Dell. In fact, > I used to have that *exact* Linksys device and it died within 18 mon

Re: [CentOS] iSCSI best practices

2011-12-10 Thread Ross Walker
On Dec 10, 2011, at 2:05 PM, "James A. Peltier" wrote: > - Original Message - > | On Dec 10, 2011, at 1:49 PM, "James A. Peltier" > | wrote: > | > | > Jumbo frames is really the important thing when it comes to iSCSI. > | > Having 9000 byte packets verses 1500 byte packets will dramatic

Re: [CentOS] iSCSI best practices

2011-12-10 Thread James A. Peltier
- Original Message - | On Dec 10, 2011, at 1:49 PM, "James A. Peltier" | wrote: | | > Jumbo frames is really the important thing when it comes to iSCSI. | > Having 9000 byte packets verses 1500 byte packets will dramatically | > increase your performance per interrupt. Most cheaper unmana

Re: [CentOS] iSCSI best practices

2011-12-10 Thread Ross Walker
On Dec 10, 2011, at 1:49 PM, "James A. Peltier" wrote: > Jumbo frames is really the important thing when it comes to iSCSI. Having > 9000 byte packets verses 1500 byte packets will dramatically increase your > performance per interrupt. Most cheaper unmanaged switches cannot do this. I want

Re: [CentOS] iSCSI best practices

2011-12-10 Thread James A. Peltier
- Original Message - | > The Dell 6224 or 6248 switches are priced low | | Hmmm, we seem to have different definitions of "priced low" :-) | | http://search.dell.com/results.aspx?s=bsd&c=ca&l=en&cs=cabsdt1&k=PowerConnect+6224&cat=all&x=0&y=0 | | $2000 for the 24 port. | | I can get a C

Re: [CentOS] iSCSI best practices

2011-12-10 Thread Ross Walker
On Dec 10, 2011, at 9:35 AM, Alan McKay wrote: >> The Dell 6224 or 6248 switches are priced low > > Hmmm, we seem to have different definitions of "priced low" :-) > > http://search.dell.com/results.aspx?s=bsd&c=ca&l=en&cs=cabsdt1&k=PowerConnect+6224&cat=all&x=0&y=0 > > $2000 for the 24 port.

Re: [CentOS] iSCSI best practices

2011-12-10 Thread James A. Peltier
- Original Message - | Hey folks, | | I had some general questions and when reading through the list | archives I | came across an iSCSI discussion back in February where a couple of | individuals were going back and forth about drafting up a "best | practices" | doc and putting it into a

Re: [CentOS] iSCSI best practices

2011-12-10 Thread Alan McKay
> The Dell 6224 or 6248 switches are priced low Hmmm, we seem to have different definitions of "priced low" :-) http://search.dell.com/results.aspx?s=bsd&c=ca&l=en&cs=cabsdt1&k=PowerConnect+6224&cat=all&x=0&y=0 $2000 for the 24 port. I can get a Cisco small business switch for less than 1/4 tha

Re: [CentOS] iSCSI best practices

2011-12-09 Thread Ross Walker
On Dec 9, 2011, at 11:27 AM, Alan McKay wrote: > So 2 questions : > - how important is it to have it on its own network? The traffic should definitely be segregated for security reasons and to make sure there is minimal crosstalk. Whether to put on a separate switch or VLAN depends on your cur

Re: [CentOS] iSCSI best practices

2011-12-09 Thread Les Mikesell
On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 1:40 PM, Karanbir Singh wrote: >> I've seen recommendations to use jumbo frames for iscsi - and if you >> do that, everything on that subnet needs to be configured for them. >> > > unless you have some really slow storage machines, why would you not use > JF ? > I thought

Re: [CentOS] iSCSI best practices

2011-12-09 Thread Jim Wildman
The big issue in corporate land would be security. Yes you can do vlans and/or encrypt it, but that is going to add overhead, either management (*people) or CPU, both of which take away from any speed advantages you might get. On Fri, 9 Dec 2011, Alan McKay wrote: > Hey folks, > > I had some gen

Re: [CentOS] iSCSI best practices

2011-12-09 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 12/09/2011 05:36 PM, Les Mikesell wrote: > I've seen recommendations to use jumbo frames for iscsi - and if you > do that, everything on that subnet needs to be configured for them. > unless you have some really slow storage machines, why would you not use JF ? - KB _

Re: [CentOS] iSCSI best practices

2011-12-09 Thread Les Mikesell
On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 10:27 AM, Alan McKay wrote: > > Now my questions : > We are not using iSCIS yet at work but I see a few places where it would be > useful e.g. a number of heavy-use NFS mounts (from my ZFS appliance) that I > believe would be slightly more efficient if I converted them to iS

Re: [CentOS] iSCSI best practices

2011-12-09 Thread Digimer
On 12/09/2011 11:27 AM, Alan McKay wrote: > Hey folks, > > I had some general questions and when reading through the list archives I > came across an iSCSI discussion back in February where a couple of > individuals were going back and forth about drafting up a "best practices" > doc and putting i

Re: [CentOS] iSCSI best practices

2011-12-09 Thread Adam Wead
On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 11:27 AM, Alan McKay wrote > > So 2 questions : > - how important is it to have it on its own network? > I would say very important, but probably not required. A separate network segregates the traffic, and you can secure it better. You can also have failover, etc, and p

[CentOS] iSCSI best practices

2011-12-09 Thread Alan McKay
Hey folks, I had some general questions and when reading through the list archives I came across an iSCSI discussion back in February where a couple of individuals were going back and forth about drafting up a "best practices" doc and putting it into a wiki. Did that ever happen?And if so, w