Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] SPARC patch

2021-02-02 Thread Swift Griggs
On Tue, 2 Feb 2021, Chase via cdesktopenv-devel wrote: Personally, I think that your time would be used better if you helped us test and fix any issues with the AIX and HPUX port. I have access to POWER hardware but only Power7 and older stuff (I have some POWER6 and RS/6000 PPC hardware too).

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] CDE 2.3.2 has been released

2020-01-18 Thread Swift Griggs
On Sat, 18 Jan 2020, Antonis Tsolomitis wrote: I agree with Jon. CDE has more important challenges to deal with in the future than dtmail, starting with Wayland. IMHO, the "retiring" idea keeps the code around for whoever might want to unearth it and work on it, and it gets it out of the way o

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] CDE 2.3.2 has been released

2020-01-17 Thread Swift Griggs
On Thu, 16 Jan 2020, Jon Trulson wrote: I did it once for a customer using the alpine IMAP toolkit some years ago.  I've worked with that same API. It ain't bad. There are others, too. LibETpan works pretty well also. It's the same one Claws uses. I think it already does SSL. If not, there is

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] CDE 2.3.2 has been released

2020-01-17 Thread Swift Griggs
On Thu, 16 Jan 2020, Jon Trulson wrote: I am not interested in maintaining a museum piece. That is pragmatic an sensible, but could it be deprecated into a "classic" or "hierloom" directory within the source tree and only allowed to emerge when it'd be fixed by a loving and living maintainer.

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] CDE 2.3.2 has been released

2020-01-15 Thread Swift Griggs
Jon this whole situation with Solaris having it's own code base which goes back to 1.x. I'm curious if that is why there are a lot of tools and utils (mostly ones starting with "sd") which aren't part of the open source version? Ie.. they must have made those tools specifically for their v

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] sdtedit freely available ?

2019-06-27 Thread Swift Griggs
On Thu, 27 Jun 2019, Richard L. Hamilton wrote: I have Solaris 9 and 10 systems running. If you have the choice, look at Solaris 9 rather than 10. Thanks for the tip. I have access to SunOS 4.1.2 - Solaris 11.3 with every major rev (even the rarely used stuff like Solaris 7 (SunOS 5.7) and 2.

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] sdtedit freely available ?

2019-06-27 Thread Swift Griggs
On Thu, 27 Jun 2019, Scot Jenkins wrote: Maybe I'm missing something but if you just want shortcuts to launch apps or events, you can just add them to ~/.dt/dtwmrc like so: Thanks for that! I just built a fresh copy of CDE this morning and I'm going to try out some of this info you passed on.

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] sdtedit freely available ?

2019-06-27 Thread Swift Griggs
On Thu, 27 Jun 2019, Andrey ``Bass'' Shcheglov wrote: Which files under `${HOME}/.dt` does `sdthotkey` modify? Good question. I'll have to fire up a Solaris box and find out. As you point out, it can't be rocket science to map out the hotkeys and there is likely full documentation somewhere k

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] sdtedit freely available ?

2019-05-31 Thread Swift Griggs
On Fri, 31 May 2019, Swift Griggs wrote: There is a tool that comes with CDE on Solaris called 'sdtedit' which allows sorry the tool is called "stdhotkey" not 'sdtedit' (which is some crap in my head floating around from VMS, I think). Otherwise, the question i

[cdesktopenv-devel] sdtedit freely available ?

2019-05-31 Thread Swift Griggs
There is a tool that comes with CDE on Solaris called 'sdtedit' which allows you to customize and edit the CDE hot keys. I found this very helpful as I'd already been acclimated to my custom keys in Fluxbox and Windowmaker and I could just make them the same in CDE. Is that something one ca

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] NetBSD TCL patch

2019-02-24 Thread Swift Griggs
On Sat, 23 Feb 2019, Danilo Pecher wrote: The only fix I know of is substituting \\\" for a simple ?. That fixes it for me. Yay! When it's all committed I'd like to try it, too. Like you I have a CDE-on-NetBSD rig I plan to keep eternally. -Swift ___

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] NetBSD build broken

2019-02-22 Thread Swift Griggs
On Fri, 22 Feb 2019, Danilo Pecher via cdesktopenv-devel wrote: Ah, that would explain it. The whole NetBSD configuration is ancient to begin with. The imake config file still caters for oddities of NetBSD 1.1 (!!). I'll have a look into it. Yes, it's a good hint. I can give it a try, too (on 8

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] Back in the flock

2019-02-22 Thread Swift Griggs
On Fri, 22 Feb 2019, Danilo Pecher wrote: For the time being I'll conentrate on looking through the mess that is the NetBSD build. Thanks for your efforts, Danilo. I am also a NetBSD user. Like you, I was able to build CDE in the 6.x days, but it has since fallen apart. Personally, I'm sad t

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] "Curated" CDE environments

2019-01-09 Thread Swift Griggs
On Wed, 9 Jan 2019, Christopher Turkel wrote: I tried the sparky CDE package and they don?t set the hostname right so the desktop applications menu from the menu barfs an error and doesn?t work. That was my experience, too. While I'm grateful to anyone for pre-compiling, packaging, SPEC-file

[cdesktopenv-devel] "Curated" CDE environments

2019-01-08 Thread Swift Griggs
Does anyone know of any OS distro that's got CDE setup in a "curated" package? I had someone ask/show-interest in using CDE for a student computer lab. They were asking for a "timeless" interface, and I showed them CDE. What I'm thinking of when I say curated is *ideally* (not demanding jus

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] Moving to MIT license

2018-06-12 Thread Swift Griggs
On Tue, 12 Jun 2018, Christopher Turkel wrote: I see can see the political reasons for the move and software projects have moved licenses for worse reasons. I'd like a BSD license of some kind, I'd be in favor of it. MIT, and BSD licenses are great. I won't harp on the ones I don't like as th

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] CDE 2.2.4 fails with ttsession crash on FreeBSD 11.1-RELEASE (backtrace available)

2017-07-28 Thread Swift Griggs
On Fri, 28 Jul 2017, Douglas Carmichael wrote: When I tried building/installing CDE 2.2.4 on FreeBSD 11.1-RELEASE using able to start CDE because the ttsession daemon would crash immediately upon starting a desktop session. Forgive me if you're already aware of this, but you need to run the T

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] Can't build CDE on FreeBSD 11.0-RELEASE-p1 (dtksh fails)

2016-10-13 Thread Swift Griggs
On Thu, 13 Oct 2016, Martin Etteldorf wrote: > Sorry, I still haven't found the time to upgrade to 11.0, and I most > likely won't have the time to do it before December. Kostya Berger > reported the very same issue some months ago for NetBSD on this list. > Maybe it's worth a try contacting him

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] Adding default include & libraries to CDE

2016-08-10 Thread Swift Griggs
On Wed, 10 Aug 2016, Marcin Cieslak wrote: > I don't recall having problems with linking, so probably whatever we > have in FreeBSD.cf should work for NetBSD as well? I didn't even look, yet, but adding "-liconv" on this line: #define CplusplusLibC -lm -lstdc++ -liconv Seems to fi

[cdesktopenv-devel] Adding default include & libraries to CDE

2016-08-09 Thread Swift Griggs
I'm noticing that after a "make World" there are two things that seem problematic. The first is that many of the applications aren't being built due to the linking phase bombing out since it can't find libiconv (since it's not using -liconv during the link/compile). Manually adding -liconv doe

[cdesktopenv-devel] "contrib" directory or similar?

2016-08-08 Thread Swift Griggs
I'm putting the finishing touches on an rc-script for CDE under NetBSD. It's written with NetBSD standards in mind. Is there any place for such a thing under the CDE dist? I'd happily contribute it in whatever way is easiest for folks to digest into the whole. -Swift

[cdesktopenv-devel] ast-ksh issue getting fixed

2016-08-05 Thread Swift Griggs
This page: https://sourceforge.net/p/cdesktopenv/wiki/NetBSD/ has a comment (a true one): "Some notes on NetBSD 7.0: pkgsrc/shells/ast-ksh is broken. Install the binary package from the NetBSD 6.0 repository via pkg_add" He's referring to this issue: https://mail-index.netbsd.org/pkgsrc-users

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] Integration of patches from pkgsrc/wip for NetBSD

2016-08-05 Thread Swift Griggs
patches in this go are just workaday maintenance stuff. Nothing exciting. -Swift From 63da4a78cb57019aec51d014ec99127b8dc8bcac Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Swift Griggs Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2016 10:47:57 -0600 Subject: [PATCH] Patches from pkgsrc-WIP --- cde/lib/DtHelp/HelpXlat

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] Integration of patches from pkgsrc/wip for NetBSD

2016-08-05 Thread Swift Griggs
On Thu, 4 Aug 2016, Jon Trulson wrote: > I usually do something like: [...] Thanks for that. I'll definitely attempt to do the same. I've asked the fellas who run pkgsrc-WIP to grant me git access. My intention is to: 1. Give you the patches in the proper format et al. 2. Pull the version of CD

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] Integration of patches from pkgsrc/wip for NetBSD

2016-08-04 Thread Swift Griggs
On Thu, 4 Aug 2016, Jon Trulson wrote: > I am guessing that they were not... I apply patches sent to the devel > mailing list in git format-patch format. If they were never delivered > to the ML, then they were never applied. Gotcha. I'd be happy to mail in the patches. I just want to double ch

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] New to the list

2016-08-03 Thread Swift Griggs
On Wed, 3 Aug 2016, Marcin Cieslak wrote: > I am no expert with DtMail, but it seems to use ToolTalk to some extent. > Use can issue low-level ToolTalk calls from the dtksh as well: I'm ignorant. I read the docs just now and it looks like one could create a ttdt communications endpoint. Then the

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] New to the list

2016-08-03 Thread Swift Griggs
On Wed, 3 Aug 2016, Marcin Cieslak wrote: > Did you try dtksh for some scripting? I actually didn't know it existed as a scripting API. I'm looking again at programs/dtksh/examples to get an idea of it's capabilities. It does lots of cool stuff, pipes, workspace manager interactions, drawing, re

[cdesktopenv-devel] Integration of patches from pkgsrc/wip for NetBSD

2016-08-03 Thread Swift Griggs
Do these patches look familiar? patch-lib_DtHelp_HelpXlate.c patch-programs_dtpdmd_manager.c patch-programs_dtlogin_dm.c patch-programs_dtprintinfo_libUI_MotifUI_Debug.c patch-programs_dtlogin_dm.h patch-programs_dtprintinfo_

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] New to the list

2016-08-03 Thread Swift Griggs
On Tue, 2 Aug 2016, Myles Mc Manus wrote: > As someone who uses CDE everyday, I really appreciate all the work that > has been done to fix bugs and make the whole thing more stable. Some > really outstanding work has been done, and I am very grateful for it. It really surprised me to see both Mo

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] New to the list

2016-08-03 Thread Swift Griggs
On Tue, 2 Aug 2016, Matthew R. Trower wrote: > I care. I'd love to see some new features added to CDE - if nothing > else, to bring it up to speed with the rest of the world. Cool! At least there are a few of us left. At my job, I support old operating systems (Tru64, Solaris, HPUX, AIX, and very

[cdesktopenv-devel] New to the list

2016-08-02 Thread Swift Griggs
Hello Folks, I'm getting started with Motif coding. I've managed to get CDE compiled on NetBSD 7 (what fun!) and I'm still at the 2nd "hello world" pushbutton tutorial stage with my own coding. I'm passable with C, but new to Motif. I'm currently reading "MOTIF Programming" by Marshall Brain.