RIFA EMI caps [WAS: Re: VT100 PSU smelling.]

2016-01-23 Thread Pontus
x27;m replacing a five of these in a bigger SGI PSU as preventive maintenance. A few of them are showing cracks. All I could find were new similar Kemet capacitors. Do you know if newer Kemet suffer from the same problem and I will regret buying them? Thanks, Pontus.

Re: Bull DPX/2 and B.O.S. help wanted.

2016-02-04 Thread Pontus
It looks like this, this is not ours: http://www.1000bit.it/lista/dpx2.jpg On 02/04/2016 01:17 AM, Kevin Bowling wrote: Can you take some pictures of that system? Sounds interesting. I had a DPX/20 at one time which was basically an IBM RS/6000. On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 3:09 AM, Pontus

Re: Bull DPX/2 and B.O.S. help wanted.

2016-02-04 Thread Pontus
On 02/03/2016 09:35 PM, Torfinn Ingolfsen wrote: Hello, On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 11:09 AM, Pontus Pihlgren wrote: I have a OS install kit with bootable floppies and I managed to get a prompt using the "boot_unix" floppy and following the manuals that I have. However, not even "

Re: A computer collection in Italy

2016-04-06 Thread Pontus
On 04/05/2016 04:31 PM, Christian Corti wrote: On Tue, 5 Apr 2016, Pontus Pihlgren wrote: http://www.retrocomputing.net/ Looks like he has both an 11/780 (though it looks to be in pieces) and a 390. Impressive collection. ... that get's much smaller if you omit all those entries for

Re: Shipping big things across the atlantic.

2016-04-08 Thread Pontus
Thanks everyone who replied. The seller stopped communicating with me so this time it's a no-go. But I'm sure there will be a next time :) /P On 04/01/2016 11:48 AM, Pontus Pihlgren wrote: Hi. I'm considering to ship an empty full height rack from the USA to Sweden. I

Re: New logo: Vintage Computer Federation

2015-10-14 Thread Pontus Pihlgren
I like it, especially the digital take on the laurel wreath. But as others have said, complex logos are not always a good choice. Especially not if you intend to use it in print or on clothing. Perhaps you alreade have a less complex companion logo planned. /P On Tue, Oct 13, 2015 at 10:13:08P

Re: New logo: Vintage Computer Federation

2015-10-14 Thread Pontus Pihlgren
On Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at 04:16:43AM -0300, Alexandre Souza wrote: > Will they build spaceships? :D Probably, otherwise they would have made a more "wormy" logo :) /P > > 2015-10-14 4:11 GMT-03:00 Pontus Pihlgren : > > > I like it, especially the digital take on th

Re: New logo: Vintage Computer Federation

2015-10-15 Thread Pontus Pihlgren
On Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at 03:09:25PM -0600, ben wrote: > On 10/14/2015 2:57 PM, Mike Loewen wrote: > >On Wed, 14 Oct 2015, Chuck Guzis wrote: > > > >>On 10/14/2015 11:04 AM, ben wrote: > >>> On 10/14/2015 8:15 AM, Rod Smallwood wrote: > OK so if we agree there are three classes computer Namely

Re: Oddball floppies for trade - 8", HS (outer edge), weird cutout

2015-10-18 Thread Pontus Pihlgren
Quite a coincidence, Mattis showed me one of those just last week. Can't remember the system name though. A green terminal/micro computer combination. Perhaps Mattis will fill in the details. /P On Sat, Oct 17, 2015 at 06:21:29PM -0500, Jay West wrote: > I have two "flippy organizers" (that's

Re: Haul of the weekend

2015-10-18 Thread Pontus Pihlgren
I might be interested in smaller ESDI (<500MB) if they are in decent condition. /P On Sun, Oct 18, 2015 at 02:00:07PM -0700, jwsmobile wrote: > > A run to a dark corner of Orange County yielded a Sun 4-260 and a > DecServer 550. After loading the 4-260 the DecServer 550 seemed > like a feather

Re: DecServer 550 chassis

2015-10-19 Thread Pontus Pihlgren
Interesting. I thought Tthe DECserver 550 was merely the big brother in the terminal server line. But it looks like it is essentially a PDP-11/53 with 1.5MW of ram, you need new boot roms though. Pretty nice. http://home.windstream.net/engdahl/kdj11.htm /P On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 12:30:00AM -

Re: Oddball question: really small terminals

2015-10-25 Thread Pontus Pihlgren
I think you want a Minec 1000. but it's a very rare beast. It talks 3270 and VT100. https://www.flickr.com/photos/zachetus/535850501/ /P On Sun, Oct 25, 2015 at 02:54:41PM +1300, Mike Ross wrote: > For reasons too abstruse to explain in detail I'm on the lookout for > terminals that are, physic

RMS [was Re: Terminology [was RE: IBM z890]]

2015-11-03 Thread Pontus Pihlgren
On Tue, Nov 03, 2015 at 01:37:27PM -0800, Chuck Guzis wrote: > > RMS = "Rotating Mass Storage" = CDC term. That so explains this picture: https://stallman.org/RMS_13_bendicindo.jpg :-D /P

Re: RSX-11M-PLUS SYSGEN printouts

2015-11-07 Thread Pontus Pihlgren
On Sat, Nov 07, 2015 at 02:39:09AM +0100, Johnny Billquist wrote: > On 2015-11-07 00:00, Noel Chiappa wrote: > >An 11/84 I bought came with a couple of RSX-11M-PLUS V4.3 SYSGEN printouts; I > >don't intend to run RSX on the machine, so is there any use to this printout, > >or should I recycle it? I

Re: VT100 - FUN

2015-11-10 Thread Pontus Pihlgren
ould appear on the screen and at the video out connector. I actually used this once to debug a broken vt220: http://www.update.uu.se/~pontus/slask/vt220-125.jpg I could verify that the logic board of the vt220 was ok. /P

Re: ETA-auktion

2015-11-17 Thread Pontus Pihlgren
Will you attend? I'm going. /P On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 06:18:18PM +0100, Stefan Skoglund (lokal användare) wrote: > This year's ETA-auction i gothenburg at 5 Dec. > > SEE http://auktion.eta.chalmers.se/ > > Multiple Tek Scopes and a HP 16500C. > > AT least one VT101 and other misc (including

Re: Big heap of DEC Flip-Chips modules

2015-11-25 Thread Pontus Pihlgren
Hi Jörg Very enticing. But the link gives me a 404. I think it should be: http://retrocmp.com/flipchipshop /P On Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 02:34:55PM +0100, Jörg Hoppe wrote: > Hi, > > a year ago or so an inventory of several thousand DEC flip-chip modules > appeared in the neighbourhood. >

Re: DEC H745 regulator common failure modes?

2015-11-26 Thread Pontus Pihlgren
I can only say that they fail often. We have replaced lots in our 11/70. Luckily we have had spares. Sometimes the failure has been rather catastrofic with blown components. I think these modules run quite hot since discoloured pcb:s are common. /P On Thu, Nov 26, 2015 at 01:01:07PM -0800, Ia

Re: DEC H745 regulator common failure modes?

2015-11-27 Thread Pontus Pihlgren
On Fri, Nov 27, 2015 at 11:29:32AM +0100, Johnny Billquist wrote: > On 2015-11-27 06:13, Pontus Pihlgren wrote: > >I can only say that they fail often. We have replaced lots in > >our 11/70. Luckily we have had spares. > > > >Sometimes the failure has been ra

Triprocessor PDP-10 [Was: Re: [multicians] Emacs humor]

2015-12-02 Thread Pontus Pihlgren
processor machines? Who, besides Peter Löthberg, ran threeprocessor machines? Also, what are you refering to as PDP-10? KA-10? Thanks, Pontus.

Re: Triprocessor PDP-10 [Was: Re: [multicians] Emacs humor]

2015-12-02 Thread Pontus Pihlgren
On Wed, Dec 02, 2015 at 06:47:12PM +, Rich Alderson wrote: > From: Pontus Pihlgren > Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2015 12:19 AM > > > On Wed, Dec 02, 2015 at 02:13:06AM +, Rich Alderson wrote: > > >> KL-10/PDP-10/PDP-6 triprocessor, and KL-10/PDP-10 du

Re: TU-58

2015-12-04 Thread Pontus Pihlgren
On Fri, Dec 04, 2015 at 08:01:05AM -0600, Chris Elmquist wrote: > > > On December 4, 2015 5:41:52 AM CST, Rod Smallwood > wrote: > >Hello All > >Well I managed to find some suitable rubber tubing and > >glued it in place of the nasty black mess. > >So I put everything back and

Re: Appraisal for Donation

2015-12-06 Thread Pontus Pihlgren
I'm not sure what you are asking. But a PDP-12 sold north of 15k dollars: http://www.ebay.com/itm/161199469414 /P On Sun, Dec 06, 2015 at 09:16:45AM -0500, Michael Thompson wrote: > The PDP-12 donor to the RICM needs an appraisal for the charitable donation. > I already suggested Vintage Tech.

Re: DEC MM15 core mem found

2015-12-08 Thread Pontus Pihlgren
I've seen a memory assembly from a PDP-15 and it looks very much like this. Also, if each connector pair corresponds to one bit it adds up to 18 which matches the word lenght of a PDP-15. Of course, PDP-1, -4 and -7 used 18 bit word lenght, but they were not made with flip-chips. PDP-9 is made

Re: DEC MM15 core mem found

2015-12-08 Thread Pontus Pihlgren
visit the museum, I'll happily show you the internals of > a running PDP-7. :-) Oh yes! If/when I cross the atlantic you will have to show me internals of _everything_. Can you buy a five-day pass? :-) Thanks, Pontus.

Re: Maximizing value selling a working 11/34

2015-12-09 Thread Pontus Pihlgren
erhaps, and put those in the item description. This advice I offer for free with no qualms, good luck to you and your business partner. Kind Regards, Pontus. On Tue, Dec 08, 2015 at 09:09:16AM -0500, Noel Chiappa wrote: > So I know someone who has a working 11/34 (4 RLO2's and the 11/34 in

Re: List vs. community size

2015-12-09 Thread Pontus Pihlgren
croVAXes, oh, > and an nCube2... and it's boring? > > (http://imgur.com/LRkTseU) > mm, not boring in any way :) What did you end up doing with the Onyx prototype rack? Cheers, Pontus.

Re: List vs. community size

2015-12-09 Thread Pontus Pihlgren
On Wed, Dec 09, 2015 at 09:08:18AM +0100, Pontus Pihlgren wrote: > On Tue, Dec 08, 2015 at 03:26:14PM -0600, JP Hindin wrote: > > > > So I post a picture of my workshop with 13 racks, including half a dozen SGI > > Onyx2, a pair of SunFire 6800s, a Cray J98, a Sun E

Re: CREEPYPASTA

2015-12-10 Thread Pontus Pihlgren
On Thu, Dec 10, 2015 at 02:39:31AM -0500, Mike wrote: > What is your favorite CREEPYPASTA? > > I read one tonight called exploration of room -B. . . > > What are your fav'z? I am not a fan of the ones about games or the lame > ones like Jeff the killer, Slenderman, Five nights at Freddy's ecp for

Re: Commodore 64?

2015-12-14 Thread Pontus Pihlgren
ut not on your behalf. I'm sorry if that was how it came across. Regards, Pontus.

Re: Bye for now... was:

2015-12-14 Thread Pontus Pihlgren
Hi I'm sorry to see you go. This list has it ups and downs. I certainly don't read everything, not even all things that are on topic. But whenever there is a storm of boring/off-topic/ranting posts I just ride it out. Eventually there will be a fun post to read. So, guys, hang on and don't fe

WTB: PDP-11/03 front bezel

2015-12-15 Thread Pontus Pihlgren
ke to make it complete with the white front bezel seen here: http://hampage.hu/pdp11/kepek/11-03.jpg Does anyone have one for sale? The greyish plastic arround the front panel would be a bonus since mine got a small crack in it. Regards, Pontus.

Re: WTB: PDP-11/03 front bezel

2015-12-17 Thread Pontus Pihlgren
On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 09:30:23AM +1000, ste...@malikoff.com wrote: > > I've been after one for a while, too. I was very kindly offered one from a > listmember who would have > taken it off his own machine, but I felt that would have deprived that box. > I'd be divided if I'd get that offer.

Re: Diablo 3000 schematics wanted

2015-12-17 Thread Pontus Pihlgren
On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 06:07:24PM +, tony duell wrote: > > I have one that was mangled in the house-move (the movers decided to cut the > keyboard > cable for me). Wow, did you get any compensation? /P

Re: Decisions you regret Was: Mystery IC: Allen Bradley 314B102

2015-12-17 Thread Pontus Pihlgren
On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 10:17:20AM -0500, Noel Chiappa wrote: > > Although I suspect a lot of people here have stories like that... > Most of the stories here top mine but I keep kicking myself for leaving a DEC prioris behind. It's a relatively bulky x86 but it uses the same PSU as a broken A

Re: vaxstation 3100 boot issue?

2016-01-19 Thread Pontus Pihlgren
On Tue, Jan 19, 2016 at 10:26:13AM +, Peter Coghlan wrote: > > Check for corrosion on any memory expansion board fitted and see if the > machine > behaves any better with the board removed. > I second removing the board. I had five differenct 3100 m10 and several had memory issues (and bat

Re: Free (for pickup): RX02 external enclosure (Seattle, WA)

2016-01-25 Thread Pontus Pihlgren
Hi I would love one with my "table-top" PDP-8/E. I suspect shipping over the pond will kill it though. Do you have measurements of dimensions and weight? What does it look like, how does one mount the RX02 in the enclosure? Do you have any pictures? Kind Regards, Pontus. On S

Re: Free (for pickup): RX02 external enclosure (Seattle, WA)

2016-01-25 Thread Pontus Pihlgren
On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 09:42:00PM -0800, Josh Dersch wrote: > On 1/25/16 1:48 AM, Pontus Pihlgren wrote: > >Hi > > > >I would love one with my "table-top" PDP-8/E. I suspect shipping over > >the pond will kill it though. Do you have measurements of dimensio

Last call: free machines in Sweden

2016-01-29 Thread Pontus Pihlgren
(same as above, other label) Possibly 1 VAX 4000 and possibly one Alphaserver 2000. Pickup only. We will remove hard drives since they contain source code. In a few weeks, this will be gone. A few pictures here: http://www.update.uu.se/~pontus/slask/jobb_vind/ Items are in Uppsala, Sweden. /P

Re: Unidentified DEC gear available, NSW-AU

2016-01-31 Thread Pontus Pihlgren
On Sun, Jan 31, 2016 at 08:48:57PM -0600, Jay West wrote: > > Very surprised no one took any guesses at what PDP-11 boxes were in those > pictures. :-) I was about to, but realised that I had very little to add. Just that the green color indicates "lab" equipment, which would mean A/D converter

Re: Last call: free machines in Sweden

2016-01-31 Thread Pontus Pihlgren
On Fri, Jan 29, 2016 at 06:51:52PM -, Robert Jarratt wrote: > > What kind of VAX 4000? Not that I am likely to make the trip, unfortunately > :-( A 4000/300, the first 4000 QBus machine I believe. And the only one that doesn't have a separate memory bus. (I wouldn't be surprised if I'm wron

Re: Last call: free machines in Sweden

2016-02-01 Thread Pontus Pihlgren
On Mon, Feb 01, 2016 at 08:34:21AM -0800, Glen Slick wrote: > On Sun, Jan 31, 2016 at 11:49 PM, Pontus Pihlgren wrote: > > > > A 4000/300, the first 4000 QBus machine I believe. And the only one that > > doesn't have a separate memory bus. > > > > (I wou

Bull DPX/2 and B.O.S. help wanted.

2016-02-03 Thread Pontus Pihlgren
Hi I'm trying to boot a Bull DPX/2 and got stuck waiting for NFS to do something, at least that is what I believe. Is there anyone on the list with B.O.S experience that could help me bring the sytem up under some kind of single user environment without network. I have a OS install kit with b

Re: Bull DPX/2 and B.O.S. help wanted.

2016-02-05 Thread Pontus Pihlgren
robably) only > mounted a mini-root file system, and was (again, probably) running a shell > with restricted functionality. > > On Fri, Feb 5, 2016 at 7:28 AM, E. Groenenberg wrote: > > > Hello Pontus. > > > > As far as I remember, DPX/2 uses AT&T System 5 rel. 0 wi

Re: PDP-11/20 vd one that just says pdp 11 what are the date differences?? OEM?

2016-02-22 Thread Pontus Pihlgren
The PDP-11/20 was the first PDP-11. I believe the number was added when the other models came out, to discern them. /P On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 03:03:17AM -0500, couryho...@aol.com wrote: > PDP-11/20 vd one that just says pdp 11 what are the date differences?? > OEM? was one version for

Re: PDP-11/20 vd one that just says pdp 11 what are the date differences?? OEM?

2016-02-22 Thread Pontus Pihlgren
On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 03:25:36AM -0500, Paul Birkel wrote: > Which has always struck me as a bit odd, since the PDP-11 family was > designed to be just that, a family. So you'd think that "marketing" would > have kept that in mind when designing the first front panel label ... > Indeed, and it

Re: PDP-11/20 vd one that just says pdp 11 what are the date differences?? OEM?

2016-02-22 Thread Pontus Pihlgren
On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 07:07:35AM -0500, william degnan wrote: > > I have an original 1969 PDP 11 brochure. In it there are two PDP 11 model > configurations to choose from; the 10 and the 20. For me at least this > throws into question the whole "...the 10 first came out with the 5 > in1972...

Re: PDP-11/20 vd one that just says pdp 11 what are the date differences?? OEM?

2016-02-22 Thread Pontus Pihlgren
On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 07:16:24AM -0500, william degnan wrote: > > Here is the doc in question. Note is says 11/10 and 11/20 > > http://vintagecomputer.net/digital/PDP11-20/PDP11_Price-List_19691215.pdf Hmm, notice that it says "Turnkey Console" which I believe means it lacks the lights and sw

Re: Helpful Features in a Debugger

2016-02-22 Thread Pontus Pihlgren
On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 09:08:56AM -0500, Jerome H. Fine wrote: > > A number of other ideas are as follows: > > (a) During a multi-step sequence, stop the sequence when the > stack has more then a specified number of words of increase > or decrease - each specified separately > (b) Se

Re: dec mid-sized cabinet (TU10/TM11)

2016-02-22 Thread Pontus Pihlgren
On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 09:28:53AM -0600, Jay West wrote: > I had cause over the weekend to take apart my 8E dual-bay system (the > TU10/TM11 is being traded off). I remembered there was some discussion a few > weeks ago about the mid-sized dec cabinets with the sloped top front, so > figured I'd p

Re: PDP-11/20 vd one that just says pdp 11 what are the date differences?? OEM?

2016-02-22 Thread Pontus Pihlgren
On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 03:42:21PM -0500, Noel Chiappa wrote: > > So, do you know of any engineering document or photograph of one of those > 'first' -11/10's? My bet is that there probably are none - because the > machine likely never existed. (Although DEC may have sold a few, what was > shipped

Re: dec mid-sized cabinet (TU10/TM11)

2016-02-22 Thread Pontus Pihlgren
On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 12:50:44PM -0600, Jay West wrote: > > I have never heard/seen mention of a H965. I'm not sure where I got it from. Now I'm not so sure I've seen it anywhere. Oh well, It would be nice to know what to call the different DEC racks. There are so many in different shapes an

Re: PDP-10 programming [was RE: Dumb Terminal games (was Re: Looking for a small fast VAX development machine)]

2016-03-01 Thread Pontus Pihlgren
On Tue, Mar 01, 2016 at 08:02:47AM -0500, John H. Reinhardt wrote: > > On 2/29/2016 8:07 PM, Rich Alderson wrote: > >From: David Griffith > >Sent: Friday, February 26, 2016 4:05 PM > > > >>One of my ongoing wish projects is to learn to program a pdp-10 so I can > >>port Frotz to it. > > > >The can

Re: Recovery adventure - Re: Unidentified DEC gear available, NSW-AU

2016-03-03 Thread Pontus Pihlgren
On Thu, Mar 03, 2016 at 09:36:07AM +0100, Mattis Lind wrote: > > > > Finally I removed the Foxboro paper tape reader. The tape holders each > > side slide up to reveal the rack mounting > > screws. Onto the ute it went. > > > > There were some other racks of gear, but all custom idustrial control >

Re: anyone have a working RV-20 or RV-64?

2016-03-20 Thread Pontus Pihlgren
On Sat, Mar 19, 2016 at 10:01:40AM -0700, Al Kossow wrote: > On 3/18/16 9:15 PM, Paul Anderson wrote: > >I have a RV20 somewhere. Are you in a big hurry? > > > >On Fri, Mar 18, 2016 at 6:48 PM, Al Kossow wrote: > > > >>we have a bunch of optical packs at CHM that we'd like to archive > >>does anyo

Re: Here's what happens when an 18 year old buys a mainframe...

2016-03-29 Thread Pontus Pihlgren
I watched it earlier today and it reminded me a bit about myself. At least that one time I, with help of friends, rescued a PDP-11/34, eclipse in two racks and VAX-11/750 with peripherals from a house with a collapsed floor. /P On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 12:34:09PM -0700, geneb wrote: > > https:/

Re: Old PC Boards and some Books to go

2016-03-29 Thread Pontus Pihlgren
Hi Some gems in there. Will you ship? How much do you want for the DECsystem-10 books? /P On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 12:08:28PM -0400, Dave Mitton wrote: > Guys, > still trying to clean out my basement... recently I've gathered a bunch > of PC cards from over the years. > and some of my old te

Shipping big things across the atlantic.

2016-04-01 Thread Pontus Pihlgren
hanks in advance, Pontus.

Re: Broken BA123

2016-04-01 Thread Pontus Pihlgren
#x27;ve tried to repair it, but not had satisfactory results. Is there anyone > out there that would be willing to sell me a replacement? > The front breaker on my MicroPDP-11 broke and they are still made. I couldn't find the right color but I could reuse the original housing: htt

Re: A computer collection in Italy

2016-04-05 Thread Pontus Pihlgren
Hi Looks like this is his homepage: http://www.retrocomputing.net/ Looks like he has both an 11/780 (though it looks to be in pieces) and a 390. Impressive collection. /P On Tue, Apr 05, 2016 at 10:07:16AM +0100, Antonio Carlini wrote: > I came across this: > > http://www.lastampa.it/2016/03

Re: network event

2015-05-22 Thread Pontus Pihlgren
On Fri, May 22, 2015 at 02:10:44PM -0700, geneb wrote: > On Fri, 22 May 2015, Jay West wrote: > > >Chuck wrote... > >- > >I, for one, didn't even notice. > >- > >I really really wish I could say the same. Truly. > > > Well you're the guy behind the curtain. We're forbidden from > noticing

Re: DEC cartridge ID & ARTIFACS 440

2015-05-27 Thread Pontus Pihlgren
Is that a vt330 on the side? /P On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 02:38:04PM -0700, Brent Hilpert wrote: > Does anyone recognise these DEC cartridges?: > > http://www3.telus.net/~bhilpert/tmp/deccartridge.jpg > > Any details or knowledge of what systems they may have been used with? > They're defi

Re: DEC cartridge ID & ARTIFACS 440

2015-05-27 Thread Pontus Pihlgren
lus.net/~bhilpert/tmp/res/ > > More terminals below desks in the artifacs440 pic. Looks like vt220, but hard to tell. > > Could that be an empty Q-bus backplane above the RC25? Possible, not a DEC-enclosure though. /P > > > On 2015-May-27, at 9:05 PM, Pontus Pihlgren

IBM System/34 available in sweden

2015-05-30 Thread Pontus Pihlgren
Hi I was just offered an IBM System/34. It's not my thing and I thought there might be some international interest even. Documentation and software included. Contact me for details. /P

Datasaab D12

2015-06-01 Thread Pontus Pihlgren
assembler" as the develoment environment. It's apparently a subsystem that comes in a nice attache case: http://imgur.com/QQUrcGh It's actually made by Facit and may go under that name. Does anyone know more or have manuals? Regards, Pontus.

Re: Datasaab D12

2015-06-02 Thread Pontus Pihlgren
On Mon, Jun 01, 2015 at 07:17:34AM -0700, Lee Courtney wrote: > Hej Pontus - > > Very, very nice. I'm sure you already know this but there is a Nordic > computing history group on Facebook, somewhat active, that may be of help. > Link: https://www.facebook.com/groups/HiNC4/

Re: Front Panel Update

2015-06-08 Thread Pontus Pihlgren
Is there a way to tell your reproduction from an original? /P On Mon, Jun 08, 2015 at 01:19:41PM +0100, Rod Smallwood wrote: > Hi All > Since I released the picture of the first 8/e panel on > Friday there has been a big response. > Its 12:45 local on Monday in the UK and I'm of to t

Re: Front Panel Update

2015-06-08 Thread Pontus Pihlgren
Quite rare the PDP-8 faq says 1024 made. And given how slow it was, I suppose people didn't hold on to it. /P On Mon, Jun 08, 2015 at 12:26:07PM -0700, couryhouse wrote: > > > 8s is rare??   We have one.  Is there a an registry?   Ed#  smecc.org > > > Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE

Re: Front Panel Update

2015-06-08 Thread Pontus Pihlgren
I think you are refering to the micro processor series, or MPS: http://www.dvq.com/oldcomp/photos2/1k/dec_micro_panel.JPG I have some marketing material but that is it. I've seen one go on ebay. /P On Mon, Jun 08, 2015 at 08:34:57PM +0100, Rod Smallwood wrote: > There is one thing I saw once a

Re: Front Panel Update

2015-06-08 Thread Pontus Pihlgren
On Mon, Jun 08, 2015 at 04:38:15PM -0700, Vincent Slyngstad wrote: > From: Rod Smallwood: Monday, June 08, 2015 11:28 AM > >Theres an 8/f which replaced the 8/e and has a similar front panel > >with extra markings > > I hate to mention it, but I believe that the rotary switch on the > 8/E panels w

Re: Front Panel Update

2015-06-08 Thread Pontus Pihlgren
On Mon, Jun 08, 2015 at 11:18:50PM +0200, Johnny Billquist wrote: > > Got both an 8/M with a front, and an 8/F. I don't remember that > there are any differences in color, but my memory might just have > bit errors. > > Also not sure what the "extra markings" would be on the 8/F. As far > as I ca

Re: Front Panel Update

2015-06-08 Thread Pontus Pihlgren
There are so many versions. The blue and green are my favourites. The chocolate 11/70 requires special mention. Here are some examples I've collected. http://www.update.uu.se/~pontus/slask/front_paneler/ /P On Mon, Jun 08, 2015 at 11:56:45PM -0500, Paul Anderson wrote: > not to men

Re: Front Panel Update

2015-06-09 Thread Pontus Pihlgren
On Tue, Jun 09, 2015 at 06:50:25AM +, d...@661.org wrote: > On Tue, 9 Jun 2015, Pontus Pihlgren wrote: > > >There are so many versions. The blue and green are my > >favourites. The chocolate 11/70 requires special mention. > > > >Here are some exampl

Re: Front Panel Update

2015-06-09 Thread Pontus Pihlgren
They can't have enforced it all that hard. I've seen a few like these: http://www.update.uu.se/~pontus/slask/front_paneler/pdp-8m-cc-computer-control.JPG http://www.update.uu.se/~pontus/slask/front_paneler/pdp-8e-cddp.jpg http://www.update.uu.se/~pontus/slask/front_paneler/pdp-8l-UCC.jp

Re: NY Times Video Feature : The Apple Collector

2015-06-09 Thread Pontus Pihlgren
e it even more worthwhile. Regards, Pontus.

Re: Front Panel Tech Note 2

2015-06-11 Thread Pontus Pihlgren
The color is quite different between the two. I can take comparative photos, but I suppose it will be quite meaningless as a guide. /P On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 06:47:25AM +0100, Rod Smallwood wrote: > Asof now I know of two variations > > 1,Selector switch positions 1 and 6 lines can be

Re: Front Panel Tech Note 2

2015-06-15 Thread Pontus Pihlgren
ders, but no box arround the switch. Type B has noticably less saturated colors. I can take better pictures of the Type B panel which is accessible, but I'm not sure it will help. Regards, Ppntus On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 10:46:47PM +0100, Rod Smallwood wrote: > Hi Pontus >

Re: Front Panel Tech Note 2

2015-06-15 Thread Pontus Pihlgren
On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 08:54:08AM +0100, Rod Smallwood wrote: > > Seeing the one with the one with the missing toggle switches reminds > me that I have an enquiry out re getting some made. I believe many would appreciate that. I'm lucky though and have spares enough for my machine. > I dont

Re: using new technology on old machines. Was: PDP-12 Restoration at the RICM

2015-06-15 Thread Pontus Pihlgren
Indeed, you use what is at hand and what you are comfortable with. /P On Sun, Jun 14, 2015 at 09:41:42PM +0200, Simon Claessen wrote: > as long as it is done in a way that it can be restored to its > original, i have no problems in using newer technology in older > machines. we have a alix sbc b

Re: using new technology on old machines. Was: PDP-12 Restoration at the RICM

2015-06-15 Thread Pontus Pihlgren
On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 11:52:28AM +0200, Johnny Billquist wrote: > > We're talking about putting in a rather complex computer to generate > a baud rate. Are people really that handicapped when it comes to > building hardware nowadays? Speaking for myself, yes. I have a Teensy 2.0 lying at my de

Re: using new technology on old machines. Was: PDP-12 Restoration at the RICM

2015-06-15 Thread Pontus Pihlgren
will become a USB interface for my 11/70 front panel. The Teensy was the simplest/cheapest way to get a usb interface with lots of I/O pins. (Why usb? to get a connection to simh on one of those newfangled Pi-things) Cheers, Pontus.

Re: using new technology on old machines. Was: PDP-12 Restoration at the RICM

2015-06-15 Thread Pontus Pihlgren
On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 07:15:14PM +, tony duell wrote: > > I am very worried that people would rather use a microcontroller than change > a couple of passives. Can't anyone read a schematic and think Nope. I didn't know this hobby required a degree in electrical engineering. By your cr

Re: using new technology on old machines. Was: PDP-12 Restoration at the RICM

2015-06-15 Thread Pontus Pihlgren
On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 04:53:01PM +, tony duell wrote: > > > I also think it is in the spirit of the computer - using what is available > > to fix a problem at hand. I think the arduino was overkill when an attiny > > (smaller, easier to hide) would probably serve just as well. > > Would you

Re: using new technology on old machines. Was: PDP-12 Restoration at the RICM

2015-06-15 Thread Pontus Pihlgren
On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 01:59:11PM -0700, Mark J. Blair wrote: > > Big. VERY big. :) > > And one more thing (until the next thing comes to mind): I consider > this to be an enjoyable and level-headed debate, just in case anybody > gets the mistaken impression that I'm trying to come down hard on

Re: using new technology on old machines. Was: PDP-12 Restoration at the RICM

2015-06-15 Thread Pontus Pihlgren
On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 04:32:23AM +, tony duell wrote: > > Oh come on. You yourself said you are here to learn. This module > is hardly complicatated. Well, you got me there :) /P

Re: using new technology on old machines. Was: PDP-12 Restoration at the RICM

2015-06-16 Thread Pontus Pihlgren
On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 04:28:16AM +, tony duell wrote: > > I am of course counting all the transistors inside that chip. Well, that was obvious. But it raises an interesting point, today you can cram a whole computer in the footprint of the simplest DIP carrier. For the same price point an

Re: using new technology on old machines

2015-06-16 Thread Pontus Pihlgren
On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 01:54:56PM +, tony duell wrote: > > I find it odd that people want to have a lights-and-switches panel, but are > prepared to totally > adulterate the hardware of the machine that drives it. > Are you honestly suggesting that I should rebuild a PDP-11/70 from things

Re: using new technology on old machines

2015-06-16 Thread Pontus Pihlgren
On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 03:58:51PM +, tony duell wrote: > > Are you honestly suggesting that I should rebuild a PDP-11/70 > > from things I have in my partsbin? > > You have to admit it would be an interesting and educational > project :-) Oh, very much! Then we could have a discussion about

Re: using new technology on old machines

2015-06-16 Thread Pontus Pihlgren
On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 04:18:03PM +, tony duell wrote: > [Build your own 11/70] > > > Oh, very much! Then we could have a discussion about using > > modern switching power supplies ot not ;-) > > As opposed to the original 11/70 switching supply? I would suspect that modern switchers are mo

Re: using new technology on old machines

2015-06-16 Thread Pontus Pihlgren
On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 12:52:23PM +1200, Mike Ross wrote: > > Has this ever been seriously considered, or mooted as a possible > co-operative venture for a group of us? > I see it on the small scale all the time. Such as Rod's new front panels for the 8/e. Or the various replica kits for early

Re: OT? Compaq 5/60M

2015-06-17 Thread Pontus Pihlgren
Run of the mill PC clones are rather booring. But brand names, oddballs and first are always fun. I wouldn't mind to have the first DELL machine in my collection. I have a DECpc 433 with matching SCSI expansion box. A desktop machine with some interesting solutions. /P On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at

Re: RK06 alignment pack

2015-06-17 Thread Pontus Pihlgren
How was alignment packs produced? /P On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 11:39:25AM -0400, Noel Chiappa wrote: > Anyone need an RK06 alignment pack: > > http://www.ebay.com/itm/Digital-Equipment-RK06-Aglinment-pack-/221803433215 > > Seems like something that should definitely get saved! > > Noel

Re: RK06 alignment pack

2015-06-17 Thread Pontus Pihlgren
What is the difference between an RK06 and 07 ? Is it capacity? Could this pack be used to align an RK07 ? I ask because we have an RK07 at the Update Computer Club. /P On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 08:53:22PM +0100, Jarratt RMA wrote: > I don't have an RK06 and I am not expecting to get one any tim

OT: Steam Shovels [Was: Re: using new technology on old machines. Was: PDP-12 Restoration at the RICM]

2015-06-17 Thread Pontus Pihlgren
On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 09:26:38PM +0200, Alexander Schreiber wrote: > > That has been done before for production purposes. I kid you not. I believe you. I found this on youtube, looks like the have some sort of generator or boiler external to the shovel. Perhaps it's compressed air? https://ww

Re: RK06 alignment pack

2015-06-18 Thread Pontus Pihlgren
On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 11:39:19AM +0200, Johnny Billquist wrote: > On 2015-06-18 08:16, Pontus Pihlgren wrote: > >I ask because we have an RK07 at the Update Computer Club. > > I didn't know. When did we get one, and from where? We had one many > years ago that I dumped.

Re: Front Panels Personal Update

2015-06-18 Thread Pontus Pihlgren
On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 07:50:02AM -0400, Christian Gauger-Cosgrove wrote: > On Thursday, 18 June 2015, Jonathan Katz wrote: > > > > There is a Postscript doc out there with the DEC "D I G I T A L" logo > > in blocks. That may be a start. > > > > http://nedbatchelder.com/blog/200712/ancient_histor

Re: DEC Logo (was: Front Panels Personal Update)

2015-06-18 Thread Pontus Pihlgren
On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 07:20:51AM -0700, Chris Osborn wrote: > > On Jun 18, 2015, at 4:42 AM, Jonathan Katz wrote: > > > There is a Postscript doc out there with the DEC "D I G I T A L" logo > > in blocks. That may be a start. > > > > http://nedbatchelder.com/blog/200712/ancient_history_the_di

Printer ribbons [Was: Re: 1990 Era computer room]

2015-06-24 Thread Pontus Pihlgren
On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 10:14:00PM -0700, jwsmobile wrote: > The only reference I could find that separated them are to google > for the printer ribbons. I find a lot of the companies who list > ribbons don't purge their databases of even the most ridiculously > old products, and they list models.

Re: organizing a trip to Cuba

2015-06-24 Thread Pontus Pihlgren
On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 08:45:13AM +0200, Holm Tiffe wrote: > I have an Elektronika 60 which is something like an 11/03 clone > but it isn't a clone. It has a Q-BUS with connecteors like DECs > original but with metric pin raster. Boards are bigger and the used > chips and the schematics are totall

Re: Megaprocessor - built from individual transistors

2015-06-24 Thread Pontus Pihlgren
On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 06:10:38AM +, d...@661.org wrote: > On Tue, 23 Jun 2015, Phil Budne wrote: > > >If I were going thru the trouble, I'd want build a TX-0 clone! > > I think it would me more interesting to build a replica of a pdp-8 > straight-eight using significantly-reduced flip chips

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