I had a little Comprint printer in the 1970s/1980s that used something
sort of like this. The paper was aluminum coated, thus conductive. The
On Tue, 13 Oct 2015, tony duell wrote:
That is how the Sinclair ZX printer works and also things like the Axiom
EX820. Spark (about 80-100V IIRC) to al
This was in an IBM 5150 (original PC)? I'm still confused. The 1410A is a
bridge board that presents an MFM drive as a SASI (pre-SCSI) device. What
SCSI bus adapter is that machine fitted with?
On Tue, 13 Oct 2015, Jules Richardson wrote:
Indeed, that and the 5150's PSU wasn't capable of runnin
On Wed, 14 Oct 2015, et...@757.org wrote:
As time goes on more computers become vintage.
But, do they all?
Are there any that will NEVER be vintage,
and still discarded by archeologists thousands of years from now?
On Wed, 14 Oct 2015, Chuck Guzis wrote:
Well, a web search brings up this as the first entry:
"An earlier term for a computer with performance and capacity between a
minicomputer and a mainframe. "
A CW 1979 article about the Association of Computer Users (ACU) it as "a
computer costing between
On Wed, 14 Oct 2015, ben wrote:
you can lose your lovers with a Cray
multiples of any size computer, or evan a single one larger than a micro
can lose your marriage.
Wire wrapped motherboard and only one in existance ! Sheesh what a risk.
On Thu, 15 Oct 2015, Mark Linimon wrote:
minor quibble: I doubt they called it a "motherboard" in that time frame.
More likely "backplane".
Wasn't the B5900 from 1980?
"Motherboard" was around then, although Burroughs mig
Wasn't the B5900 from 1980?
On Thu, 15 Oct 2015, Mark Linimon wrote:
Hmm. I guess my mind put "B5500" for "B5900".
Yeah, that would make a difference.
Wikipedia (not necessarily reliable) lists the B5500 at 1964,
and the B5900 in 1980.
OED researchers found published use of "motherboard" in
On Thu, 15 Oct 2015, Geoffrey Oltmans wrote:
IIRC, IBM liked to refer to them as planar boards...
That's right. I explained one account of WHY IBM refused to call it a
"motherboard".
On Fri, 16 Oct 2015, Brad wrote:
Thanks Henk,
I tried that. No prompt comes up with PUTTY on serial set at any baud
rate. Instead on the LED display I get a C, or an S sometimes.
Check for activity on lines 2 and 3, if it is a DB25.
You have not yet confirmed that you have it cabled correctl
So, does anyone know what the first such "farm" slang term was, and when
and where it originated? And how about other terms with "farm" in them?
(I came across a new one the other day, but of course I've forgotten it
now.)
Going back a ways, it originated with growing crops. Then, it began bein
On Sun, 18 Oct 2015, Dave Wade wrote:
I can see that Antenna Farms is an older term, dating back to at least 1950,
but of course as antenna's are usually in fields..
It gradually evolved from agricultural to ANYTHING,
and then from fields to ANY space.
Does it correlate with the decline of ac
Does it correlate with the decline of actual FARMING?
On Mon, 19 Oct 2015, Charles Dickman wrote:
FARMING hasn't declined, only the number of farmers.
(Not a farmer, but surrounded by them.)
Is modern "agribusiness" really "farming"?
On Thu, 22 Oct 2015, Murray McCullough wrote:
43 years ago around this time the Internet we use to communicate with
was probably made possible because of TCP/IP, or Transmission Control
Protocol/Internet Protocol created at Stanford University.
TCP/IP would be 33, not 43 years ago.
The internet
On Fri, 23 Oct 2015, Chuck Guzis wrote:
Yeah, I had quite a number of problems with the original post also.
We each see a different part of the elephant. Sometimes I think that
Murray is/was at the other end than I am/was.
I really like Murray, and what he says, but his views of what was
sig
started early. 'course in our day, we were much more
polite in how we flamed
Emacs? You _MUST_ be kidding.
On Fri, 23 Oct 2015, geneb wrote:
WordStar. Non-document mode.
Did you really think that that was better than Electric Pencil?
My very first inspiration for writing XenoCopy was ads
> Well, it is not correct when we then include that it is 43 years old...
> Internets using TCP/IP is a bit over 30 years old, but not over 40.
On Sat, 24 Oct 2015, Noel Chiappa wrote:
Good point! {Does a little math in his head...} 43 years, that gives us 1972.
The OP was clearly thinkin
On Sat, 24 Oct 2015, Eric Christopherson wrote:
I know Chuck Guzis has written about this, but I don't see that he's done
so publicly in the last few years, so I thought I'd ask here about his and
others' views on the perennial question of whether (some) 3.5" DSHD disks
can be reliably used in DS
On Sat, 24 Oct 2015, Cindy Croxton wrote:
How small is "really small"? IBM made a terminal with a 5" screen for
the 4704 banking systems. http://frente-cajas.blogspot.com/
And the Atari Portfolio runs a version of DR-DOS.
And the Poqet ran MS-DOS.
Both have serial ports available.
Both will ru
The Epson RC-20 wrist watch (30 years ago) had serial port, RAM, ROM,
and sort of a Z80.
But, nobody ever brought up CP/M on it.
Are we really running short of "720K" floppies? I thought that AOHell
had sent out enough snail spam with disks to supply us forever!
Indeed, but the quality of those diskettes was dreadful.
On Sun, 25 Oct 2015, ben wrote:
More the Service provided from the disk.?
Blaming the medium for the
> > For reasons too abstruse to explain in detail I'm on the lookout for
> > terminals that are, physically, really small - especially serial and
> > coax 3270, and possibly twinax 5250.
How small is "really small"? IBM made a terminal with a 5" screen for the 4704
banking systems. http://frente
[AOL]
On Sun, 25 Oct 2015, ben wrote:
I suspect the reason they failed was not service
but a) PC's had games b) Ma Bell wanted a arm and a leg
for long distance connections.
Some of their early efforts to COMPETE AGAINST the internet helped
establish outfits like Netcom, and were a boost to IS
On Sun, 25 Oct 2015, Eric Christopherson wrote:
Actually, in many areas of the US, they had local dialup numbers that
connected to their service through Tymnet and/or Telenet, so long
distance didn't apply. Maybe in rural areas those access points were
still long distance, though. But AOL itself
On Sun, 25 Oct 2015, et...@757.org wrote:
There is a television show running on television now called "Halt and catch
fire" and I think they are basing it around Quantum Link as part of the
story. It's not historical but a period drama or something.
and Compaq?
I liked the part about IBM suin
"physically really small" means different things to different people. It
45 years ago, a "mini-computer" was considered to be "really small". So
small that they gave it a special name to refer to how tiny it was.
Sony tried to call their Vaio "ultra-portable",
which was rather laughable whe
On 30 October 2015 at 12:02, rod wrote:
The list seems very quiet to-day.
I have had only one post this morning.
Anybody know why?
Is everybody off at the top-secret VCF-Paris?
On Fri, 30 Oct 2015, Liam Proven wrote:
No replies to my message about NASA wanting Fortran programmers...
extinc
On Fri, 30 Oct 2015, Peter Coghlan wrote:
Nah - VCF-Paris is just a decoy to distract the few who might have heard about
the ultra secret VCF-Madrid.
WHY was VCF Berlin kept a secret?
Did Sellam know about it?
I would not have gone to it,
but it still seems surprising that I didn't even hear
On Fri, 30 Oct 2015, Chuck Guzis wrote:
I think the demise of FORTRAN is overstated. That there is an X3 group still
advancing the language attests to that. While FORTRAN may be a 60-year old
language, Fortran is not.
Which one is NASA looking for? FORTRAN/Fortran in general, or expertise
On Fri, 30 Oct 2015, Jerome H. Fine wrote:
Does anyone have any idea as to the actual hardware platform?
I used an IBM 7094 II back around 1965 using both FORTRAN
and assembly language, but that was only 50 years ago.
There was no operating system, just a batch stream of one job
at a time. All I
On Fri, 30 Oct 2015, Guy Sotomayor wrote:
Him: I allocate an array of structures and I read them off of disk into the
array.
Me: How big are the structures?
Him: About 4K
Me: How many are you allocating?
Him: 100,000
Me: Rolls eyes. That’s 4GB. We don’t have 4GB on the embedded platform. You
On Fri, 30 Oct 2015, Murray McCullough wrote:
What is the role played by the U.S. gov. in helping to create the
microcomputer? What money & expertise did it provide? “Steve Jobs the
Movie” doesn’t mention this nor have books written about him and
microcomputers in general mentioned this. Not ev
> They literally refused to understand that a
> dataset could exist that would be too large to fit into memory.
On Fri, 30 Oct 2015, ANDY HOLT wrote:
In the UK, the Home Secretary wants to force all ISPs to store and
keep (reasonably) easily searchable logs of all URLs accessed by all
their cust
> "I still think a 3 tape sort should be a required early assignment
> (learn that not everything can fit into memory at once).
On Fri, 30 Oct 2015, Lee Courtney wrote:
Second.
It's hard to get students to care about what you are saying when you
mention tapes. You need to explain the algorit
They literally refused to understand that a dataset could exist that
would be too large to fit into memory.
On Fri, 30 Oct 2015, Dave Wade wrote:
About a year ago, I was asked by my employer to give them a list of the
URLs accessed by one member of staff. I sent them a list of the URL's
that I
On Mon, 2 Nov 2015, rod wrote:
Whats all the fuss about.?
Some sort of import of flamewar(s) from another list
(we can't create enough of our own?)
What did the poor guy do to be banned?
Nothing on this list.
The parties involved don't seem to agree.
Has probably now devolved into a battle o
On Tue, 3 Nov 2015, Chuck Guzis wrote:
Cool. How about "label" versus VTOC versus "folder" versus "directory"
versus "FNT"...versus...?
So many names...
Was it considered "copyright infringement" to use the same terminology as
somebody else? Like "standards" everybody had a unique one of
Cool. How about "label" versus VTOC versus "folder" versus "directory" versus
"FNT"...versus...?
So many names...
Was it considered "copyright infringement" to use the same terminology as
somebody else?
On Wed, 4 Nov 2015, Paul Koning wrote:
No, it could not be. It could be trademark infr
On Wed, 4 Nov 2015, Fred Cisin wrote:
"Hmmm. What else could we call the keyboard?"
On Wed, 4 Nov 2015, geneb wrote:
FADID. Where do I send the consulting bill?
I'm not familiar with that one.
It just might be unique enough to keep anybody from confusing our fadids
from
On Thu, 5 Nov 2015, John Ball wrote:
I've been trying for the past week to verify that telephony on my teletype
machine (model 33) is functioning properly but the biggest hurdle I am
running into is I have nothing to easily dial into. Everyone I know off hand
either don't have a modem anymore or
On Thu, 12 Nov 2015, Mouse wrote:
However, I _think_ some old Sun and MicroVAX machines play in that
space; I've seen Qbus hardware that talks to drives with card-edge
connectors and I've seen SCSI-to-cardedge interfaces on Suns of
Sun-3/260 vintage. I don't know the details of ST506, ESDI, and
On Fri, 13 Nov 2015, Johnny Billquist wrote:
(Well, by straight through I mean that they were null-model cables.)
connected them with a Laplink parallel cable (I've still got a box of
them).
On Sat, 14 Nov 2015, Jules Richardson wrote:
Roughly what length are the cables? And do you know if they do anything
special internally regarding shielding of the data lines?
They, and those of other similar products,
On Sat, 14 Nov 2015, william degnan wrote:
I have a copy of the laplink software should anyone need it. If the cable
for parallel is just a null modem I suggest a person in this hobby
definitely add laplink to the bag of tricks available. You just fire it up
on both ends ll.exe ... and you'll
Another thing that I don't know is if XX2247 would possibly be required to
On Sat, 14 Nov 2015, Al Kossow wrote:
That is the crux of the problem. While XX2247 bought the rights from Mentec
Well, XX2247 is at least related to the KEY to the problem, . . . :-)
Unfortunately, although nobody m
On Sun, 15 Nov 2015, TeoZ wrote:
When it comes down to it with so many mergers and company deaths in the
software industry it might be hard for owners to prove they even own
something anymore. So the odds of you ending up in court are not that great.
Or, it could INCREASE it.
How many entities
On Tue, 17 Nov 2015, Mark J. Blair wrote:
This would be helpful, and consistent with many other mailing lists. I
use filters to direct traffic from my many mailing list subscriptions
into appropriate sub-folders outside my main inbox. I filter this list
based on addressing, but sorting based on
On Tue, 17 Nov 2015, Ian S. King wrote:
The FCC's ULS lookup gives you the licensee's address, which we are
supposed to keep current. -- K7PDP
FCC license does give the location, as does lattitude and longitude,
but when somebody is seeking people who would want to partake of their
collection
On Tue, 17 Nov 2015, Al Kossow wrote:
Yes, they were two separate lists at one point, then someone decided to
start forwarding messages between the two, and other people started
posting replies to the wrong list. All of the replies to the post about
the collection being given away was from ccta
On Wed, 18 Nov 2015, Pete Turnbull wrote:
At the risk of resurrecting yet another old topic, do we really need both
lists?
I think so.
For example,
"Re: Giving away collection of computers"
has turned into discussion and meetings of hams. That would defintitely
not belong on CCTECH, but seem
On Tue, 17 Nov 2015, couryho...@aol.com wrote:
DO NOT THINK I CAN MAKE THE AOL MAIL FILTER THAT WAY..
Wow!
There are few people with the inclination to ask a list
full of old farts to make changes for AOL compatability!
On Wed, 18 Nov 2015, couryho...@aol.com wrote:
good point Ethan that is one of the main reasons as if it has a list
designator I would defiantly look at it then.Ed#
Did you mean "DEFINITELY"?
We've seen enough DEFIANCE
Am I the only one left using Pine!?
On Fri, 20 Nov 2015, Fred wrote:
No you are not.
I use (al)pine on my OpenVMS system here as well as my main Linux host. I
have mail going back to 2004 here and since 1996 at another public access
Unix host I use. It's great when I'm out of town and can ssh
We picked up the tradition, not for the same reason you guys do maybe, but
we found it a good opportunity to get together with friends and family and
have a good meal together.
No, that's the same reason we do it.
Happy xgiving, whoever's into it!
We don't need a religious nor nationalistic exc
On Sat, 28 Nov 2015, Jerome H. Fine wrote:
it did not cause a problem. The media could be LLF using either
index hole and then read and written using the other index hole.
changing the rotational position of index will not cause a problem with
WD style controllers - they will read along the t
On Sat, 28 Nov 2015, Fred Cisin wrote:
If other errors occur, such as "requested sector header not found", they may
be misinterpreted by the drive
that's "misinterpreted by CONTROLLER"
although some of the fancier newer drives can also have a problem
So, . . .
WD style: no problem with index pulse timing relative to data NEC765
style: index pulse is necessary during LLF, but may need to be
blocked during read/write, although a few of the newest drives may
not be happy without index.
On Sat, 28 Nov 2015, Chuck Guzis wrote:
765/8272 are particularly bad
it physically laid out the 10 sectors as 0 2 3 4 6 8 1 3 5 7 9 so that
when reading sequentially, you had half a disk rotation to get your act
together to read the next sector. This turned out to be only a small
performance win, and was a pita for interoperability,
On Sun, 29 Nov 2015, Tapley,
On Mon, 30 Nov 2015, dwight wrote:
I wrote an interleave formatter for a friend to use on his H89.
He had an enormous data file that took for ever to read in BASIC.
He couldn't believe it could be made to work so much faster.
Oversimplified remedial tutorial:
Ideally, the system reads a sector,
Oversimplified remedial tutorial:
Ideally, the system reads a sector, does what it has to do with the content,
and goes back for the next one, and can read every sector of the track in a
single revolution.
From: "Paul Koning"
Your writeup was aimed at floppy disks, but interleave may also ap
On Tue, 1 Dec 2015, Paul Koning wrote:
On the subject of DECtape, and "keeping good track of things" -- DOS
format DECtape has 510 bytes per tape block, the other two bytes are
used as the link word. It's a bit like MSDOS FAT format (or CDC 6000
series, which did it 20 years earlier), but with
On Wed, 2 Dec 2015, Paul Koning wrote:
Actually, it's the circumference that matters, not the diameter.
I always thought that there was a relatively stable relationship between
those! :-)
Circumference tends to be a little over 3 times the diameter (3.0 in some
states):-)
Does the circ
On Wed, 2 Dec 2015, Paul Koning wrote:
I'm sorry for stirring up this hornet's nest.
Well, I put "emoticons" in, in a futile attempt to indicate that I was
joking. ("emoticon captioned for the humo[u]r impaired") I also hoped that
the "in some states" would give a further hint to that. I cou
On Wed, 2 Dec 2015, Tony wrote:
Mathematically, circumference is PI times diameter or 3.14159. times the
diameter.
That's of a CIRCLE, and once you deform it, it ceases to be a circle.
I tried measuring a whole bunch of circles, and I can't find any rational
reason why dividing the circu
I tried measuring a whole bunch of circles, and I can't find any
rational reason why dividing the circumference by the diameter never
came out even! :-)
On Thu, 3 Dec 2015, Johnny Billquist wrote:
You need to measure more of them! You've just been unlucky.
OK!
I started to wonder whether I nee
I tried measuring a whole bunch of circles, and I can't find any rational
reason why dividing the circumference by the diameter never came out even! :-)
On Thu, 3 Dec 2015, Tapley, Mark wrote:
Howzabout: go to Fort Smith, NT, Canada (or thereabouts, 60? N)
Walk or swim as appropriate, measuring
Do they have excess employed staff who need additional tasks created to
keep them busy?
Do they have other use for the space? Or do they have excess space, and
need a way to keep the space occupied indefinitely? Piles or boxes of
pieces of machine take as much or more space than assembled mac
On Wed, 9 Dec 2015, Adrian Stoness wrote:
All the email clients I have are top posting get with the times you guys
"Get with the times" ??!?
You should be able to get with the times of the kinds of
computers that you are interested in.
Top posting implies that you are only interested in com
On Wed, 9 Dec 2015, Adrian Stoness wrote:
U guys are fickle at times. Oldest computer history stuff I have is the
last remaining model of a Phillips p1000 from 68 I've got a front panel
of a 8i in pecies I found in a field that I'm slowly getting parts together
to rebuild..
and therefor
"Top posting implies that you are only interested in computers from the
1990s or newer."
On Wed, 9 Dec 2015, drlegendre . wrote:
In addition to being a sign of secretly harbored communist sympathies.
I thought that it was the other way around
All the email clients I have are top posting
On Wed, 9 Dec 2015, Mouse wrote:
There are good civilized email clients available in plenty; if you
don't happen to have any, I can only assume you can't be bothered.
get with the times
No.
Right on.
Can I REFUSE to accept modern "reality"?
on my phone it doesnt show the quoted text it hides it till i send or i
would just delete the stuff out...
On Wed, 9 Dec 2015, Adrian Stoness wrote:
and my computer it seems to hide the stuff
I suspect that the culprit for THAT is the software that you are running,
not the hardware.
On Wed, 9 Dec 2015, Mike Stein wrote:
I hear that Donald Trump top-posts...
also
Michael Dell
Carly Fiorina
Mark Zuckerberg
Sarah Palin
Meg Whitman
Paris Hilton
Bill Gates
I hear that Donald Trump top-posts...
also
Bill Gates
On Thu, 10 Dec 2015, Mike wrote:
And he is one of the smartest finatual men in the world
he is smart.
not smartest
what is a "finatual"?
He seems to be a bit competitive.
Back when he was first a millionaire, he did some good work.
We m
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On Thu, 10 Dec 2015, Liam Proven wrote:
*I* never delete my emails. I have a trail back to 1994. So?
useful
Also, [[Citation needed]] for paranoid ravings.
Let's
On Thu, 10 Dec 2015, Zane Healy wrote:
I’ve done embarrassingly little so far. The equivalent of “Hello,
World”.
Isn't that the heart of it?
Once you've got that, then you just need to add input, output, arithmetic,
maybe some graphics primitives, etc. for any program.
It's a total waste of time having to re-read all the unnecessary crap
many times just to get to a one sentence reply.
IFF people were to be considerate and delete/trim/remove all of the
irrelevant parts of the quoted material, then the placement of the reply
would not matter. We are arguing o
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On Sat, 12 Dec 2015, Mike wrote:
The one question I do have for the older gentlemen on here is what in
the world did the computers without a screen to look at do? Now I know
about the tape, cassette tape's and even the paper with the hole punches
in them but
On Sat, 12 Dec 2015, tulsamike3...@gmail.com wrote:
So did you have to learn how to read the punch hole cards also or did
the punch hole cards go into the computer and than printed out the data
on the fan fold paper also was it in code or just plane English?
Yes.
If you dealt with the cards l
Until the advent of "personal" computers, a computer generally did not
have a screen. If you were doing stuff for which a creen would be useful,
you used a "peripheral" device, called a "terminal".
you could feed the cards through an INTERPRETER, which printed the card
content on the card.
[snip]
For many years, I kept around a plug-board labelled "COBOL INTERPRETER",
just to prove that a COBOL interpreter was possible :-)
On Sat, 12 Dec 2015, Eric Christopherson wrote:
Are you using "i
For many years, I kept around a plug-board labelled "COBOL INTERPRETER",
just to prove that a COBOL interpreter was possible :-)
notice the "emoticon" at the end of my original post. I was trying to
convey knowledge of the misinterpretation, and the humor of it.
On Sat, 12 Dec 2015, Charles
For many years, I kept around a plug-board labelled "COBOL INTERPRETER",
just to prove that a COBOL interpreter was possible :-)
On 12/12/2015 06:13 PM, Eric Christopherson wrote:
Are you using "interpreter" in two senses here, or just one? That is to
say, I'm not sure if you're saying the "CO
On Sun, 13 Dec 2015, Jules Richardson wrote:
so I'm wondering if there's a way of breathing life back into the ribbon so
that it can print again in all it's noisy, glacially-slow glory :-)
I don't care if it's not as black as an original ribbon would have been - it
just might be nice if it was a
> So did you have to learn how to read the punch hole cards also or did
> the punch hole cards go into the computer and than printed out the
> data on the fan fold paper also was it in code or just plane English?
You COULD read the holes, if you really HAD to. Keypunches printed
the alphanumeric
On Tue, 15 Dec 2015, Mike Ross wrote:
Maybe, but Selectrics aren't exactly fast devices; there's a whole lot
of potential 'no, wait, I'm not ready!' conditions. Would they all be
ORed onto one pin?
possibly. It's been done that way before.
That was my conclusion too. The old Western I/O ads
On Mon, 14 Dec 2015, Mike wrote:
Thank you Paul for that reply I have learned more about the history in
the short time I have been on here than I have if I would have spent 10
bagillion dollars in collage I'm just a busted up old welder now but I
wet to collage for that and it was not cheap I c
On Tue, 15 Dec 2015, Mike Ross wrote:
I thought Centronics dated back to early 1970s - not always in the
standard 'modern' form, but in general principles with same signaling
and strobing of data.
I got in late. My first encounter with Centronics was TRS80 (1979?)
At that time, Centronics did
I've only ever seen them called "12" and "11" for the top and next
rows respectively. For example, the card code listing on the IBM 360
"green card" shows them that way (e.g., A is 12-1).
Same here. But it's not outside the range of possibility that *someone*
called them X and Y, although I don
What would you do with a home no screen computer? I mean what could
be done with one that would benefit your work / hobby. I mean NO
DISREPECT by asking this question.
Use the lights.
Wish for a teletype
Buy Don Lancaster's books (How many copies did he sell?)
Not having a screen made it a li
On Thu, 17 Dec 2015, Mike Boyle wrote:
I would love to have a micro and all of the 70 and 80- 87 Honda Motorcycle
parts! The old ATC's Gotta Love em!
Then you should start designing a database to keep track of the parts, and
the ones that you have.
You will need several boxes of punched cards
On Fri, 18 Dec 2015, couryho...@aol.com wrote:
kept a LAPTOP IBM with dual floppies and a odd plasma screen all in one
IBM computer...
"Convertable"
Prior to release, IBM was filming one or more commercials with a Charlie
Chaplin look-a-like in a 1957 Chevy ragtop
and we have an IBM that
On Fri, 18 Dec 2015, William Donzelli wrote:
Most (all?) 029/129s have a chipboard top. Also, you S/3 should, right?
The only bit of classic computer stuff I have ever seen with REAL wood
on it was a Computervision system during college. The cabinets has
strips of oak on the front. Quite nice.
Are you sure it wasn't rosewood?
Polished to a satin sheen with [WELL} whale oil of course...
;-)
On Sun, 20 Dec 2015, William Donzelli wrote:
I am sorry, the expiration date on this rosewood/whaileoil joke has passed.
lifetime + 95 ?
Derivative works?
The machinewas certainly a corporate wo
> > IN Qbasic there is a SLEEP command as in...
> > 20 SLEEP=10 How would the sleep function work in basic I have tryed 10 sleeo=10,
> 10 "sleep=5" its not working...
> But thanks again Ethan!!!
On Wed, 23 Dec 2015, william degnan wrote:
If it does not appear in y
On Wed, 23 Dec 2015, Stefan Skoglund (lokal anv�ndare) wrote:
Find a property with its own little water power station ?
And then rebuild the generator into a 60 Hz one.
depending on the generaqtor design, increase the rate of flow of the
water.
On Wed, 23 Dec 2015, couryho...@aol.com wrote:
it appears the pen kit for our plotter got listed before we had
it glassed in living the glassed in display a areas
Could you rephrase that?
On Wed, 23 Dec 2015, couryho...@aol.com wrote:
resending with corrections!
it appears the pen kit for our plotter got LIFTED (aka stolen,
ripped off... etc... bummer..) before we had it glassed in
much better!
living the glassed in display a areas
??
if anyone has a
On 12/24/2015 04:47 PM, Murray McCullough wrote:
To all readers/followers of this website - for those who love
What's the URL for the website?
Happy humbug
--
Grumpy Ol' Fred ci...@xenosoft.com
Would you buy the new Commodore 64 ? ? ?
No (and not just because I am (mainly) a Commodore enthusiast).
"new" Commodore 64??!?
although, I do have to admit that Jeri Ellsowrth's new Commodore 64 (built
into joystick) was tempting.
I like her cup-holder,
and her flip-card mechanical digital w
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