[cctalk] Re: DEC Unibus variants

2025-03-30 Thread shadoooo via cctalk
The why not use a UniBone comment has merit, what will your (FPGA) > implementation add ? > Well, I know the Unibone! Surely is a very capable system for emulation of older hardware and interfaces. Also performances are good as far as I understand (I don't have one). I have the idea of extending

[cctalk] Wanted : Philips PSU-B3 (or -B4?) power supply for the P3800

2025-03-30 Thread Tony Duell via cctalk
I am working on a Philips P3800 computer, about 40 years old. It's a multiprocessor Turbodos machine, a mix of Z80's and 80186's The main problem is that I only have half the power supply. I have the PSU-M3 battery-backed memory supply, but not the logic supply. This I believe to be a PSU-B3 modul

[cctalk] Re: Wanted : Philips PSU-B3 (or -B4?) power supply for the P3800

2025-03-30 Thread Fred Jan Kraan via cctalk
Tony Duell wrote: I am working on a Philips P3800 computer, about 40 years old. It's a multiprocessor Turbodos machine, a mix of Z80's and 80186's There is some P3500/3800 documentation online, including power supplies (Netzteile) at: https://electrickery.nl/comp/divcomp/doc/index.html Not

[cctalk] Re: DEC Unibus variants

2025-03-30 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
On 3/29/25 21:05, Ethan Dicks via cctalk wrote: On Sat, Mar 29, 2025 at 9:46 PM Jon Elson via cctalk wrote: In the "old" days, such as the 1970's, pretty much any DEC-manufactured peripheral was supplied as a bunch of cards that plugged into a specific backplane section, generally 9 slots, I th

[cctalk] DEC bus transceivers (was: DEC Unibus variants)

2025-03-30 Thread David Bridgham via cctalk
On 3/29/25 7:29 PM, Martin Bishop via cctalk wrote: The why not use a UniBone comment has merit, what will your (FPGA) implementation add ? I'm not shad but I've also been working on a somewhat similar FPGA-based board called the USIC / QSIC.  We started working on it before the UniBone

[cctalk] Re: DEC bus transceivers (was: DEC Unibus variants)

2025-03-30 Thread Martin Bishop via cctalk
David You will have seen my response to shadooo / Andreas. Occasional NOS in small quantities excepted, I'm also unaware of slow transition rate drivers available for purchase. The DS8641 DS3662 DS 3682 are to my knowledge all unobtanium. Your driver design sketches and comments are substant

[cctalk] Re: DEC Unibus variants

2025-03-30 Thread Martin Bishop via cctalk
Hi shad / Andrea Thank you for the exposition of the merits of FPGA implementations for Unibus and Qbus machines; it was cheeky of me to pose the question. Regarding cost savings from reusing the main module I suspect the cost of a Zynq module would be much less than that of the bus adapter

[cctalk] Re: DEC bus transceivers (was: DEC Unibus variants)

2025-03-30 Thread Martin Bishop via cctalk
https://forum.vcfed.org/index.php?threads/unibus-qbus-alternative-driver-chips.1243045/ Found on my travels - should have been attached to my previous eMail My summary is "no easy answer" Martin -Original Message- From: Martin Bishop via cctalk [mailto:cctalk@classiccmp.org] Sent: 30 M

[cctalk] Re: DEC Unibus variants

2025-03-30 Thread Ethan Dicks via cctalk
On Sun, Mar 30, 2025 at 11:06 AM Jon Elson wrote: > On 3/29/25 21:05, Ethan Dicks wrote: > > On Sat, Mar 29, 2025 at 9:46 PM Jon Elson wrote: > >> In the "old" days, such as the 1970's, pretty much any > >> DEC-manufactured peripheral was supplied as a bunch of cards > >> that plugged into a specif

[cctalk] Re: DEC bus transceivers (was: DEC Unibus variants)

2025-03-30 Thread Marc Howard via cctalk
I used to design UNIBUS bards in the day. I recall that the 8T26 was a good substitute and there are some pieces of them on ebay. Marc Howard On Sun, Mar 30, 2025 at 6:55 PM Martin Bishop via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > > https://forum.vcfed.org/index.php?threads/unibus-qbus-altern

[cctalk] Re: DEC Unibus variants

2025-03-30 Thread Christopher Zach via cctalk
Da11-f unibus window is 4 slots and has two complete unibuses (I have one) On March 30, 2025 6:17:05 PM CDT, Ethan Dicks via cctalk wrote: >On Sun, Mar 30, 2025 at 11:06 AM Jon Elson wrote: >> On 3/29/25 21:05, Ethan Dicks wrote: >> > On Sat, Mar 29, 2025 at 9:46 PM Jon Elson wrote: >> >> In the

[cctalk] Re: DEC bus transceivers (was: DEC Unibus variants)

2025-03-30 Thread Paul Anderson via cctalk
Does anyone have a list of what boards they were used on? I do have some boards I'm planning or recycling (I know, I shouldn't say that, especially here, but most are common boards nobody uses anymore.) I haven't looked at the IPBs yet, but did plan on pulling some of the chips. On Sun, Mar 30,