[cctalk] Re: Nuking an MFM drive with a magnet, format/servo gone?

2023-03-24 Thread Chris Zach via cctalk
Speaking from experience with an old RD54, yep. Put a magnet on the outside case towards the bottom, spin the drive up and it's gone forever. On 3/23/2023 12:22 PM, Daniel Daigle via cctalk wrote: Old MFM/RLL drives with stepper positioners generally have no servo. The same can't be said of vo

[cctalk] Re: Nuking an MFM drive with a magnet, format/servo gone?

2023-03-24 Thread Tom Gardner via cctalk
Well the data are still there and could be retrieved with a sophisticated servo on data system and/or a probe head on the data surfaces. Simpler to hit the spindle motor top dead center with a very large hammer ruining the bearings and crashing a few heads in the process. Even then the data are s

[cctalk] Re: Nuking an MFM drive with a magnet, format/servo gone?

2023-03-24 Thread geneb via cctalk
On Fri, 24 Mar 2023, Tom Gardner via cctalk wrote: Well the data are still there and could be retrieved with a sophisticated servo on data system and/or a probe head on the data surfaces. Simpler to hit the spindle motor top dead center with a very large hammer ruining the bearings and crashin

[cctalk] Re: WTB: Working IBM 9401-150

2023-03-24 Thread Bill Degnan via cctalk
I have a 620. Big. On Tue, Mar 21, 2023, 12:58 PM devin davison via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > I have a 170. Im in melbourne fl. > > I have been unable to move it, its in my living room, but you would need to > load it into the car. It ipl's to a working install, but not sure what

[cctalk] Re: Nuking an MFM drive with a magnet, format/servo gone?

2023-03-24 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 3/24/23 12:17, geneb via cctalk wrote: > On Fri, 24 Mar 2023, Tom Gardner via cctalk wrote: > >> Well the data are still there and could be retrieved with a >> sophisticated servo on data system and/or a probe head on the data >> surfaces. >> Simpler to hit the spindle motor top dead center wit

[cctalk] Re: Nuking an MFM drive with a magnet, format/servo gone?

2023-03-24 Thread Sellam Abraham via cctalk
On Fri, Mar 24, 2023 at 12:17 PM geneb via cctalk wrote: > On Fri, 24 Mar 2023, Tom Gardner via cctalk wrote: > > > Well the data are still there and could be retrieved with a > sophisticated servo on data system and/or a probe head on the data surfaces. > > Simpler to hit the spindle motor top d

[cctalk] Re: Wanted PDP-11 Paper Tape Software Source Tape Images

2023-03-24 Thread Martin Bishop via cctalk
Thank you for the suggestion http://retrocmp.com/tools/pdp11gui My usual first stop for program sources and images is http://www.bitsavers.org/bits/DEC/mixed_media/ and the more obvious http://www.bitsavers.org/bits/DEC/pdp11/ Other repositories I'm acquaint with include: http://iamvirtual.ca/P

[cctalk] Re: WTB: Working IBM 9401-150

2023-03-24 Thread Peter Ekstrom via cctalk
Hey Devin, Wish I had seen this earlier. One popped up right after I posted this and I snagged it. It is going to need a little work but I'm not afraid to get my hands dirty. -Peter On Tue, Mar 21, 2023 at 12:58 PM devin davison via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > I have a 170. Im in m

[cctalk] Cards in the PDP-11/05 just sold on eBay

2023-03-24 Thread Steve Malikoff via cctalk
G'day all, Just followed the sale of the 11/05 on eBay (#175655196586) that ended a short time ago. It's a remarkably clean and complete machine and am not surprised at the hammer price. I was curious what the quad-height card with two ribbon cables coming out the sides was? It appears to hav

[cctalk] Sun/Tronic House

2023-03-24 Thread Tarek Hoteit via cctalk
Hi. I came across an article about the "Sun/Tronic House" in the July/August 1981 issue of Computers and Programming magazine. The article references the Apple 2 as the computer that controls everything in the house that also relies on solar energy. The house, per the article, is (or was) in Gree