[cctalk] Re: VAXstation 100 ROM image

2022-09-05 Thread Jan-Benedict Glaw via cctalk
On Sun, 2022-09-04 22:19:29 -0700, Glen Slick via cctalk wrote: > Reviving a year old thread, did anyone get around to dumping the > VAXstation 100 firmware? > > I don't see it where I looked here: > http://www.bitsavers.org/pdf/dec/vax/vaxstation100/ > http://www.bitsavers.org/bits/DEC/ I don'

[cctalk] Re: Flipping an 8" diskette

2022-09-05 Thread Christian Corti via cctalk
On Thu, 1 Sep 2022, jim stephens wrote: I've never heard of anyone making 8" Flippy Diskettes. BASF had the FlexyDisk 2N. They are intented for single-sided drives and can be flipped. They have two index hole cutouts. Christian

[cctalk] Re: You have Apple Lisa 1 "twiggy" system to trade for my IBM 5100 Portable PC?

2022-09-05 Thread Christian Corti via cctalk
On Sun, 4 Sep 2022, jim stephens wrote: On 9/3/22 17:38, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: Well, it ain't in the 5150/5160 range! The 5100 new was $10K to $20K. I had a 5100 that a dentist had bought as soon as it  came out and he added the floppy drives and printer.  It was a direct IBM buy for 310

[cctalk] Re: You have Apple Lisa 1 "twiggy" system to trade for my IBM 5100 Portable PC?

2022-09-05 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
Well, it ain't in the 5150/5160 range! The 5100 new was $10K to $20K. On Sun, 4 Sep 2022, jim stephens wrote: I had a 5100 that a dentist had bought as soon as it  came out and he added the floppy drives and printer.  It was a direct IBM buy for 31000. On Mon, 5 Sep 2022, Christian Corti via c

[cctalk] Re: You have Apple Lisa 1 "twiggy" system to trade for my IBM 5100 Portable PC?

2022-09-05 Thread Christian Corti via cctalk
On Mon, 5 Sep 2022, Fred Cisin wrote: Well, it ain't in the 5150/5160 range! The 5100 new was $10K to $20K. On Sun, 4 Sep 2022, jim stephens wrote: I had a 5100 that a dentist had bought as soon as it  came out and he added the floppy drives and printer.  It was a direct IBM

[cctalk] Re: VAXstation 100 ROM image

2022-09-05 Thread Lee Gleason via cctalk
Reviving a year old thread, did anyone get around to dumping the VAXstation 100 firmware?   I gave my VAXstation 100 system unit to Dave McGuire last year (I didn't need it since I lost interest in UNIBUS sized hobby equipment).  Perhaps he could make a copy of its ROMs. -- Lee K. Gleason

[cctalk] Re: Next Week: VCF Midwest

2022-09-05 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
On 9/4/22 18:20, Jon Elson via cctalk wrote: I will be at the VCFMW both days.  I am bringing a bunch of stuff to sell.  I have a big box of Q-bus boards from my Micro-VAX II system.  I also have two ESDI disks that have VMS 4.7 on them, and an Emulex QD21 controller.  I'm hoping somebody at t

[cctalk] Re: VAXstation 100 ROM image

2022-09-05 Thread Lars Brinkhoff via cctalk
Lee Gleason wrote: > I gave my VAXstation 100 system unit to Dave McGuire last year (I > didn't need it since I lost interest in UNIBUS sized hobby equipment). > Perhaps he could make a copy of its ROMs. Thanks! I asked, and he said he's willing to dump the ROM.

[cctalk] Re: You have Apple Lisa 1 "twiggy" system to trade for my IBM 5100 Portable PC?

2022-09-05 Thread Tom Stepleton via cctalk
> >> Are you sure about that? The 5100 doesn't support floppy drives. And > I've > >> never heard of third-party drives (that would need IMFs, too) for the > 5100. > > > > $3100 is about what IBM charged for a fully loaded 5150. (PC) > > THAT is not a 5100! $3100 for a 5100 would have been a barg

[cctalk] Re: Next Week: VCF Midwest

2022-09-05 Thread Nigel Johnson Ham via cctalk
If I tell you that they are not, will you think I am just trying to get the QD21 from you? I need one to replace the Sigma ESDI controller that failed, and no its format is not the same either. They also had a choice of hard vs soft sectoring.  I believe Emulex and Dilog handled the RCT differ

[cctalk] Re: You have Apple Lisa 1 "twiggy" system to trade for my IBM 5100 Portable PC?

2022-09-05 Thread Chris Zach via cctalk
It continues to blow my mind that the Apple Lisa is worth anything. They used to be sold for almost nothing as Mac XL's, and tended to be temperamental. So when will the Apple Newton or Mac Plus be worth anything? :-) C

[cctalk] Re: You have Apple Lisa 1 "twiggy" system to trade for my IBM 5100 Portable PC?

2022-09-05 Thread Sellam Abraham via cctalk
The Lisa is the first consumer grade GUI computer to come to market. The Xerox 8010 with the Star operating system preceded it by a couple years, but that was a high-end $50,000 (in 1981 dollars) workstation with big businesses as the target market. So it has some historical significance in that

[cctalk] Re: You have Apple Lisa 1 "twiggy" system to trade for my IBM 5100 Portable PC?

2022-09-05 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
I played briefly with a pre-release Lisa (Berkeley Smalltalk). But then didn't see them again. I almost bought one later as a cheaper substitute for a Mac! It is historically significant. So is the 5100. But, they are totally different categories. It's like when I traded a Honda for a Leic

[cctalk] Re: You have Apple Lisa 1 "twiggy" system to trade for my IBM 5100 Portable PC?

2022-09-05 Thread Sellam Abraham via cctalk
On Mon, Sep 5, 2022 at 12:49 PM Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: > > Haven't heard from you for a while! > Yep, and I missed you at the VCF this year. I decided to re-join this list when I happened upon it through a web search. The traffic is considerably less than it used to be so it's a tolerabl

[cctalk] Re: VAXstation 100 ROM image

2022-09-05 Thread Matt Burke via cctalk
On 05/09/2022 18:04, Lars Brinkhoff via cctalk wrote: > Lee Gleason wrote: >> I gave my VAXstation 100 system unit to Dave McGuire last year (I >> didn't need it since I lost interest in UNIBUS sized hobby equipment). >> Perhaps he could make a copy of its ROMs. > Thanks! I asked, and he said h

[cctalk] Re: Next Week: VCF Midwest

2022-09-05 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
On 9/5/22 13:46, Nigel Johnson Ham via cctalk wrote: If I tell you that they are not, will you think I am just trying to get the QD21 from you? I need one to replace the Sigma ESDI controller that failed, and no its format is not the same either. They also had a choice of hard vs soft sectori

[cctalk] Re: Next Week: VCF Midwest

2022-09-05 Thread Nigel Johnson Ham via cctalk
So now, like me, you are stuck with  a bunch of ESDI drives and no controller! I do have one DQ696, on my MVII in a BA123 box, but the other controller was a Sigma that developed in internal faulure and which I used for RT11 on my 11/73 BA23 box. Now I have to share the one controller betwee

[cctalk] FS IBM 5100 Printer

2022-09-05 Thread Marvin Johnston via cctalk
I've got a printer for the IBM 5100 that I would like to sell. I can bring it to VCFMW, but only if it is sold ahead of time (too heavy to comfortably bring on spec.) Best reasonable offer. Marvin

[cctalk] Re: You have Apple Lisa 1 "twiggy" system to trade for my IBM 5100 Portable PC?

2022-09-05 Thread jim stephens via cctalk
the 5100 has an external connector.  The floppy drive is a floor unit about the size of three AT units upright, with two single density floppies in it.  We used my unit as an engineering reference to do a floppy interface project which required 3740 compatability from our hardware. And the

[cctalk] Re: You have Apple Lisa 1 "twiggy" system to trade for my IBM 5100 Portable PC?

2022-09-05 Thread Chris Zach via cctalk
The Lisa is the first consumer grade GUI computer to come to market. The Xerox 8010 with the Star operating system preceded it by a couple years, but that was a high-end $50,000 (in 1981 dollars) workstation with big businesses as the target market. So it has some historical significance in that

[cctalk] Re: You have Apple Lisa 1 "twiggy" system to trade for my IBM 5100 Portable PC?

2022-09-05 Thread jim stephens via cctalk
On 9/5/22 08:53, Christian Corti via cctalk wrote: On Mon, 5 Sep 2022, Fred Cisin wrote: Well, it ain't in the 5150/5160 range! The 5100 new was $10K to $20K. On Sun, 4 Sep 2022, jim stephens wrote: I had a 5100 that a dentist had bought as soon as it  came out and he     adde

[cctalk] Re: You have Apple Lisa 1 "twiggy" system to trade for my IBM 5100 Portable PC?

2022-09-05 Thread jim stephens via cctalk
On 9/5/22 11:07, Tom Stepleton via cctalk wrote: Are you sure about that? The 5100 doesn't support floppy drives. And I've never heard of third-party drives (that would need IMFs, too) for the 5100. $3100 is about what IBM charged for a fully loaded 5150. (PC) THAT is not a 5100! $3100 f

[cctalk] Re: Next Week: VCF Midwest

2022-09-05 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
On 9/5/22 16:34, Nigel Johnson Ham via cctalk wrote: If anybody out there has a DQ696 or an RQDX3 available, I'd like to hear from you! I DO have a DQ696 that I will be bringing to the VCFMW.  If it won't read my ESDI drives formatted on an Emulex QD21, then it is of no use to me. Jon

[cctalk] Re: Next Week: VCF Midwest

2022-09-05 Thread Chris Zach via cctalk
I have a spare RQDX3, but I really recommend finding an ESDI controller. It is literally a slug compared to my MTI ESDI controller. C On 9/5/2022 5:34 PM, Nigel Johnson Ham via cctalk wrote: So now, like me, you are stuck with  a bunch of ESDI drives and no controller! I do have one DQ696, o

[cctalk] Re: Next Week: VCF Midwest

2022-09-05 Thread Nigel Johnson Ham via cctalk
I agree, but in addition to getting the main system disk back up, I have an ST506 emulator from David Gesswein that I would like to get working after I built it.  My Plessey DCV54 does not even offer a drive select signal! cheers, Nigel Nigel Johnson, MSc., MIEEE, MCSE VE3ID/G4AJQ/VA3MCU A

[cctalk] Re: Next Week: VCF Midwest

2022-09-05 Thread Chris Zach via cctalk
Oh those things are so fun. Let me know off list, I'll start checking through things to find it. C On 9/5/2022 8:16 PM, Nigel Johnson Ham via cctalk wrote: I agree, but in addition to getting the main system disk back up, I have an ST506 emulator from David Gesswein that I would like to get wo

[cctalk] Re: VAXstation 100 ROM image

2022-09-05 Thread Lars Brinkhoff via cctalk
Matt Burke wrote: > I dumped the ROMs from my VAXstation 100 some time ago (along with many > other DEC devices): > > http://www.9track.net/roms/ > > 23-288E4.bin and 23-289E4.bin are probably the two main ones you are > looking for. Do you just need the ROMs or are you looking for technical > info