Pictures: Early IC Package with Rolled Legs

2021-11-23 Thread Jonathan Chapman via cctalk
I figured this would probably be of interest to some people here, too: https://imgur.com/a/TCrIxEH I've had this NS DM8200D 4-bit comparator for a while, after posting some pictures of it to Twitter, Evil Mad Scientist Labs offered to take super macro photos of it for me. It's just a comparator

Re: For Sale, Seattle area: Data General MV/7800 + drives, docs

2021-11-23 Thread info--- via cctalk
Hi Josh, my name is Lother Schröder. I'm living in Germany and I'm a collector of Data General machines. It would be nice to get the machine, but I'm afraid it's too difficult to get it here to germany. I have a MV/7800 here in my collection, but no documentation and software. My question is:

Re: The precarious state of classic software and hardware preservation

2021-11-23 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
On 11/22/21 8:40 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: On 11/22/21 2:59 PM, Guy Sotomayor via cctalk wrote: In my case it's stuff that *I* didn't save and just tossed it because "Why would I ever want this anymore?".  I *really* regret tossing all of the source for stuff I wrote while I was at IBM.

Re: The precarious state of classic software and hardware preservation

2021-11-23 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 11/23/21 9:51 AM, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote: doubt that a single line of that survives. > > You would probably be wrong, it likely was archived before > it stopped being used.  But that won't do you any good as > even if you could submit a FOIA request for it the cost of > recovering it

Re: The precarious state of classic software and hardware preservation

2021-11-23 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On Nov 23, 2021, at 1:21 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk > wrote: > > ... > Just think of all of the stuff that hits the landfill from old timers > who have passed. The inheritors don't know what to do with the stuff > other than dispose of it. Or they might not know how to find devices that c

PDT11/150 supported in RT11 5.7?

2021-11-23 Thread Chris Zach via cctalk
I spent the other day adjusting and getting my RX02's and the PDT11/150 working in tip top shape. They run fine, but I was wondering: I didn't see the PD.SYS driver on my RT11 5.5 and 5.7 releases. Does anyone know if Dec dropped support sometime after 5.1? C Next project: Put the pdp8/L back

Re: The precarious state of classic software and hardware preservation

2021-11-23 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
On 11/23/21 12:21 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: On 11/23/21 9:51 AM, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote: doubt that a single line of that survives. You would probably be wrong, it likely was archived before it stopped being used.  But that won't do you any good as even if you could submit a

Re: The precarious state of classic software and hardware preservation

2021-11-23 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On Nov 23, 2021, at 2:22 PM, Jon Elson via cctalk > wrote: > > On 11/23/21 12:21 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: >> On 11/23/21 9:51 AM, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote: >> doubt that a single line of that survives. >>> You would probably be wrong, it likely was archived before >>> it s

Re: PDT11/150 supported in RT11 5.7?

2021-11-23 Thread Jacob Ritorto via cctalk
> On Nov 23, 2021, at 14:18, Chris Zach via cctalk > wrote: > > I spent the other day adjusting and getting my RX02's and the PDT11/150 > working in tip top shape. They run fine, but I was wondering: I didn't see > the PD.SYS driver on my RT11 5.5 and 5.7 releases. Does anyone know if Dec

Re: PDT11/150 supported in RT11 5.7?

2021-11-23 Thread Christian Gauger-Cosgrove via cctalk
>From the freshly installed RT-11 v5.7 disk image I have available to me: .type pd.mac .MCALL .MODULE .MODULE PD,VERSION=09,COMMENT=,AUDIT=YES On Tue, 23 Nov 2021 at 14:44, Jacob Ritorto via cctalk wrote: > I was just reading the RT 11 5.7 documentation the other day and noticed the > mention

Looking for tips debugging DEC TC01 controller

2021-11-23 Thread Josh Dersch via cctalk
Hey all -- I picked up a TC01 in trade (for a TC08) a couple of weeks back and this past weekend I got it hooked up and powered up with my PDP-8/I + TU55 transport. I've been debugging it and have solved a couple of issues but the current one has me stumped and I'm looking for advice, hoping I ov

Anyone want … Creo Brisque badges

2021-11-23 Thread Alan Perry via cctalk
Hey, A few years ago I did a rescue of a couple Creo Brisque RS/6000s. They didn’t seem to have any Creo software on them, so I removed the Creo badges from them, reinstalled AIX on them, and passed them on. Anyone here want the badges? If so, send an address and I will drop them in the mail a

Re: Anyone want … Creo Brisque badges

2021-11-23 Thread Bill Degnan via cctalk
Forgive me but I can't resist. "Badges? We don't need no stinkin' badges" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stinking_badges :-) Bill On Tue, Nov 23, 2021 at 8:33 PM Alan Perry via cctalk wrote: > Hey, > > A few years ago I did a rescue of a couple Creo Brisque RS/6000s. They > didn’t seem to h

Re: Re: Anyone want … Creo Brisque badges

2021-11-23 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
On Tue, 23 Nov 2021, Bill Degnan via cctalk wrote: Forgive me but I can't resist. "Badges? We don't need no stinkin' badges" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stinking_badges :-) Bill Thank you.

Re: The precarious state of classic software and hardware preservation

2021-11-23 Thread s shumaker via cctalk
In fact, it's standard language in most DOD contracts that ALL materials related to a contract must be destroyed at contract closure unless the contractor receives specific permission from the gov't  to retain it - usually for some specific reason such as a projected follow-on contract.  When m

Re: Anyone want … Creo Brisque badges

2021-11-23 Thread Alan Perry via cctalk
The low hanging fruit is the best fruit? On 11/23/21 5:46 PM, Bill Degnan wrote: Forgive me but I can't resist. "Badges? We don't need no stinkin' badges" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stinking_badges :-) Bill On Tue, Nov 23, 2021 at 8:33