> -Original Message-
> From: cctalk On Behalf Of Van Snyder via
> cctalk
> Sent: 28 September 2021 23:34
> To: cctalk@classiccmp.org
> Subject: Re: Linux and the 'clssic' computing world
>
> On Tue, 2021-09-28 at 17:03 -0500, Jay Jaeger via cctalk wrote:
> > > On 2021-09-28 11:43 a.m.,
On Tue, 28 Sep 2021, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote:
"I've been using vi for about two years, mostly because I can't figure out
how to exit it."
:q
you're welcome
No, no... you're doing it all wrong ... it's ZZ
See . :q is colon q enter, so 3 buttons. ZZ is jsut 2 buttons (shift
doesn't count
> On Sep 28, 2021, at 8:32 PM, ben wrote:
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> On 2021-09-28 2:24 p.m., Paul Koning wrote:
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>>> ...
>>> More I play with my designs, I come to the conclusion that
>>> 32 bits is not ample for a general purpose computer.
>> I think Von Neumann would agree; he picked 40 bits as I recall. There
On Mon, 27 Sept 2021 at 22:49, Fred Cisin via cctalk
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> I think that it is truly tragic about the price gouging.
Strongly agreed.
The TI-99/4A wasn't a great computer, with foolish design compromises,
but it was driven out of the market by unfair pricing.
The Amiga was a superior mach
I had a TI 99/4 when I was a kid. It was my first computer (although I
used my friend's Apple ][ much more).
All I can say is, what a piece of garbage. It was horrible in every way,
and it overheated if you left it on too long. SLOWEST BASIC EVER!
On Wed, 29 Sept 2021 at 16:37, Liam Proven v
On Tue, 28 Sept 2021 at 22:05, Peter Corlett via cctalk
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> I went and looked up the numbers. A 1983 Fiat Panda was £3k (list). At the
> same time, the C64 was selling for £345. So it's an order-of-magnitude out,
> but still a formidable sum of money: a factory-new rustbucket (e.g. Renault
On Wed, 29 Sept 2021 at 17:45, John Many Jars
wrote:
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> I had a TI 99/4 when I was a kid. It was my first computer (although I used
> my friend's Apple ][ much more).
>
> All I can say is, what a piece of garbage. It was horrible in every way, and
> it overheated if you left it on too long.
On Wed, 29 Sep 2021, John Many Jars via cctalk wrote:
I had a TI 99/4 when I was a kid. It was my first computer (although I
used my friend's Apple ][ much more).
All I can say is, what a piece of garbage. It was horrible in every way,
and it overheated if you left it on too long. SLOWEST BA
On Tue, 28 Sept 2021 at 23:55, Mike Katz via cctalk
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> Fred Cisin said "'course, then there are the MAJOR religious battles.
> Such as VI VS EMACS."
>
> I cannot agree more. I know many people who live in VI thought I cannot
> fathom why.
I worked at Red Hat briefly and SUSE for more tha
On Wed, 29 Sept 2021 at 00:41, Fred Cisin via cctalk
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> Can EMACS be expanded enough to emulate VI?
https://www.linode.com/docs/guides/emacs-evil-mode/
> Can VI be expanded enough to emulate EMACS?
https://www.vim.org/scripts/script.php?script_id=300
There's something almost poetic in t
On Wed, 29 Sept 2021 at 01:37, Chuck Guzis via cctalk
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> I confess to having Wordstar so thoroughly burned into my reflexes
It was once, yes. I got better.
But now:
http://wordtsar.ca/
> that
> I still use joe under linux.
Tilde FTW.
https://os.ghalkes.nl/tilde
> Let's not forget M
On Wed, 29 Sept 2021 at 01:47, Mike Katz via cctalk
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> Control-C, Control-X & Control-P for copy, cut and paste in Windows 11
> dates back to Wordstar on 8-Bit CPM systems in the 80s.
No they didn't. They came from the Mac:
https://ieee-isto.org/isto-blog/standards-for-cut-copy-and-past/
On Wed, 29 Sept 2021 at 06:53, Fred Cisin via cctalk
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> Writing to the video memory was the simplest and most straightforward way
> to do it
"*Real* programmers use a magnetized needle and a steady hand."
https://xkcd.com/378/
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Emai
On 2021-09-29 10:16 a.m., Liam Proven via cctalk wrote:
But really nothing to love. Then I learned VAX/VMS at Uni and I didn't
love EDT, although later I learned Edlin on DOS in my first job, and
that made me miss EDT very badly.
I think it was probably only when DR-DOS and MS-DOS 5+ included d
On Wed, 29 Sept 2021 at 20:25, ben via cctalk wrote:
> I like TERSE for dos. A 4096 byte sized editor for DOS.
> 64Kb files only, but good for editing from a floppy
> when we had them. Still can be found on the web.
> Ben.
That is really quite impressive!
https://texteditors.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl
I've been restoring a PDP-11/05 recently and after replacing several
faulty ICs I have it mostly working. I've run into a bit of a problem
whilst running MAINDEC-11-D0NB (T14 TRAP TEST) though.
The failing instruction sequence is:
7200: MOV #6340,R0
7204: MOV R0,(R0)+
7206: CMP 6340,#6342
Nostalgia is great for aging baby-boomers as me. Back in 1978 I along
with a friend bought a Heathkit H1 and spent many leisure hours
constructing it and getting it to boot up! By 1984 I moved on to the Coleco
ADAM and learned BASIC(Well more accurately APPLE Basic) spending too much
time on it r
> On Sep 29, 2021, at 7:31 PM, Matt Burke via cctalk
> wrote:
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>
> I've been restoring a PDP-11/05 recently and after replacing several
> faulty ICs I have it mostly working. I've run into a bit of a problem
> whilst running MAINDEC-11-D0NB (T14 TRAP TEST) though.
>
> The failing instructi
On 30/09/2021 01:06, Paul Koning wrote:
> Either the diagnostic has a major bug, or you're running it on a machine it
> doesn't support, or there is a setup to tell it the difference which you
> missed.
>
> What you're seeing is the very first entry in the table "PDP-11 family
> differences", ap
> On Sep 29, 2021, at 8:21 PM, Matt Burke wrote:
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> On 30/09/2021 01:06, Paul Koning wrote:
>> Either the diagnostic has a major bug, or you're running it on a machine it
>> doesn't support, or there is a setup to tell it the difference which you
>> missed.
>>
>> What you're seeing is the
On 9/29/2021 6:31 PM, Matt Burke via cctalk wrote:
I've been restoring a PDP-11/05 recently and after replacing several
faulty ICs I have it mostly working. I've run into a bit of a problem
whilst running MAINDEC-11-D0NB (T14 TRAP TEST) though.
The failing instruction sequence is:
7200: MOV
On Thu, Sep 30, 2021 at 10:49 AM Paul Koning via cctalk
wrote:
> I see that the PDP-11 architecture handbook doesn't seem to be on Bitsavers...
Do you mean this handbook?
http://wwcm.synology.me/pdf/EB-23657-18%20PDP-11%20Architecture%20Handbook.pdf
ORDER CODE: EB-23657-18
(from here: http://w
On Tue, Sep 28, 2021 at 5:30 PM Fred Cisin via cctalk
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> "Baby Duck Syndrome": you bond to the first one. Any time you are tempted
> to switch, everything that any other one does differently is "just all
> wrong". If you are eventually compelled to switch, you will bond to a new
> one; and
On 9/29/21 10:22 PM, Ethan Dicks via cctalk wrote:
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> I started on 8-bitters. On minis, I first encountered EDT (on VMS),
> then Emacs (on UNIX, AmigaDOS, and even VMS), then years later when I
> was working for Lucent/Bell Labs, vi...
Okay, story time. Back in the early-mid 1970s, I found m
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