Re: ISO Laserjet I/II/III firmware

2021-08-12 Thread Al Kossow via cctalk
On 8/11/21 11:38 PM, ED SHARPE via cctalk wrote: We collect hp laser printers SMECC Who cares. It's not like you're capable of ever going to do anything with them

Re: ISO Laserjet I/II/III firmware

2021-08-12 Thread Alexandre Souza via cctalk
At least here in Brazil you can find supplies for HP II and III printers. Probably for IIp and IIIp... ---8<---Corte aqui---8<--- http://www.tabajara-labs.blogspot.com http://www.tabalabs.com.br ---8<---Corte aqui---8<--- Em qui., 12 de ago. de 2021 às 04:02, Al Kossow via cctalk < cctalk@classi

Re: ISO Laserjet I/II/III firmware

2021-08-12 Thread ED SHARPE via cctalk
The early ones are in a HP product  display.It is good to have them  represented. We do need  paper trays  for our  first HP 2686AHelp? Thanks  Ed Sharpe - Archivist for SMECC In a message dated 8/12/2021 12:02:06 AM US Mountain Standard Time, cctalk@classiccmp.org writes:  On 8/11/21 11:38 PM,

Re: ISO Laserjet I/II/III firmware

2021-08-12 Thread James B DiGriz via cctalk
On Wed, 11 Aug 2021 22:57:16 -0700 Al Kossow via cctalk wrote: > There has been some work going on emulating early Laserwriters in > MAME and I was wondering if anyone still has boards or firmware dumps > from Laserjets. > > It seems most have been scrapped. > > "nobody collects printers" > I

Re: ISO Laserjet I/II/III firmware

2021-08-12 Thread John Foust via cctalk
At 12:57 AM 8/12/2021, you wrote: >There has been some work going on emulating early Laserwriters in MAME and I >was wondering >if anyone still has boards or firmware dumps from Laserjets. >It seems most have been scrapped. There were software updates for the firmware and I imagine they were a co

Re: ISO Laserjet I/II/III firmware

2021-08-12 Thread Al Kossow via cctalk
On 8/12/21 7:25 AM, John Foust via cctalk wrote: One step behind the wrecking ball or the recycling dumpster as the case may be. Yup. I started saving Laserwriter bits when their was originally some interest in emulation a few years ago. HP used Canon formatters on the LW and LWII, then did th

Re: ISO Laserjet I/II/III firmware

2021-08-12 Thread Al Kossow via cctalk
On 8/12/21 7:18 AM, James B DiGriz via cctalk wrote: I recently pulled out a LaserJet IIIp while cleaning up to make space Someone gave me a IIIp yesterday. I think one sold at VCF-W over the weekend I suspect interest in emulating them will die out once they get past the 68000 models.

MTI MXV22M

2021-08-12 Thread Jonathan Chapman via cctalk
Does anyone have experience running the MTI MXV22M? It's a dual-height QBus card that emulates RX02 but uses a 5.25" 96 TPI drive. I've got a small heap of them and we're trying to get them going. When trying to format diskettes using the process documented in the manual, the drive selects for

Re: MTI MXV22M

2021-08-12 Thread Bill Degnan via cctalk
I would think Herb would have some valuable input, but I do know with the SA800's there are a lot of jumpers, they vary based on the rev of the board, and you want to be sure that the loading of the heads is not jumper dependent. NOTING that I am only being logical not technical. I would only loo

RE: ISO Laserjet I/II/III firmware

2021-08-12 Thread Ali via cctalk
> I mainly don't save the Laserjet because no parts and they > don't run forever. If there was a way to extend life I didn't practice > it. Such as recharging the cartridges, etc. > What? I have restored an maintained a number of early LJs. Check eBay for parts and ink. The newer ones are act

RE: ISO Laserjet I/II/III firmware

2021-08-12 Thread Ali via cctalk
> There has been some work going on emulating early Laserwriters in MAME > and I was wondering > if anyone still has boards or firmware dumps from Laserjets. > > It seems most have been scrapped. > > "nobody collects printers" I don't know about collect but I have a soft spot for early LaserJets

Re: ISO Laserjet I/II/III firmware

2021-08-12 Thread Zane Healy via cctalk
On Aug 11, 2021, at 10:57 PM, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote: > > There has been some work going on emulating early Laserwriters in MAME and I > was wondering > if anyone still has boards or firmware dumps from Laserjets. > > It seems most have been scrapped. > > "nobody collects printers” I hop

Re: ISO Laserjet I/II/III firmware

2021-08-12 Thread Lars Brinkhoff via cctalk
Al Kossow wrote: > There has been some work going on emulating early Laserwriters in MAME Maybe an emulator for Xerox's XGP could be piggybacked onto that. The "firmware" is PDP-11 or PDP-6 code from MIT and SAIL. It could be used to print classical memos written in PUB, TeX, TJ6, Scribe, Bolio,

Re: ISO Laserjet I/II/III firmware

2021-08-12 Thread Ethan Dicks via cctalk
On Thu, Aug 12, 2021 at 10:48 AM Al Kossow via cctalk wrote: > I suspect interest in emulating them will die out once they get past the > 68000 models. I may still have a II, and I definitely still have at least one (functional) III and a 4Si I still use my 4M/L all the time - Postscript + Loca

Re: ISO Laserjet I/II/III firmware

2021-08-12 Thread Al Kossow via cctalk
On 8/12/21 9:09 AM, Zane Healy wrote: I’m really curious as to why they’re working on the emulation. For the intellectual challenge, and to play with the Postscript interpreter.

Re: ISO Laserjet I/II/III firmware

2021-08-12 Thread Al Kossow via cctalk
On 8/12/21 9:37 AM, Lars Brinkhoff via cctalk wrote: Al Kossow wrote: There has been some work going on emulating early Laserwriters in MAME Maybe an emulator for Xerox's XGP could be piggybacked onto that. Not really. MAME is a great tool for experimenting with the firmware from old micropr

Re: MTI MXV22M

2021-08-12 Thread Jonathan Chapman via cctalk
Pretty sure it's not a SA-800 problem, that was just something we tried in the course of running out of other ideas. These controllers are meant to talk to SA-460 or Tandon TM100-4 96tpi 300 RPM drives ("quad density"). I did of course force head loading on drive select, which does make the SA-8

Re: ISO Laserjet I/II/III firmware

2021-08-12 Thread Zane Healy via cctalk
On Aug 12, 2021, at 10:34 AM, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote: > > On 8/12/21 9:09 AM, Zane Healy wrote: >> I’m really curious as to why they’re working on the emulation. > > For the intellectual challenge, and to play with the Postscript interpreter. So they’re not implementing this as a way to en

RE: DQ11 prints needed

2021-08-12 Thread Noel Chiappa via cctalk
> From: Jay Jaeger > BTW, I have only the sales brochure for the DM11, near as I can tell. > 114X-00871-1715/J . If you want me to drag the box of sales lit from > the garage, and scan it, me know - could do it next week. No major need for it; I found the DM11-AA Tech Manual in my

Re: ISO Laserjet I/II/III firmware

2021-08-12 Thread Curious Marc via cctalk
My LaserJet 6MP is still going strong and is my main lab printer. I like it for retro work because it has AppleTalk capability. I plugged my Mac SE into the network and it automagically found it! Meanwhile Windows still doesn’t know it’s there unless you put its nose right on it ;-) Marc > On A

Re: ISO Laserjet I/II/III firmware

2021-08-12 Thread James B DiGriz via cctalk
On Thu, 12 Aug 2021 07:44:27 -0700 Al Kossow via cctalk wrote: > On 8/12/21 7:25 AM, John Foust via cctalk wrote: > > One step behind > > the wrecking ball or the recycling dumpster as the case may be. > > Yup. I started saving Laserwriter bits when their was originally > some interest in emul

Re: ISO Laserjet I/II/III firmware

2021-08-12 Thread James B DiGriz via cctalk
On Thu, 12 Aug 2021 13:10:43 -0400 Ethan Dicks via cctalk wrote: > On Thu, Aug 12, 2021 at 10:48 AM Al Kossow via cctalk > wrote: > > I suspect interest in emulating them will die out once they get > > past the 68000 models. > > I may still have a II, and I definitely still have at least one

Re: ISO Laserjet I/II/III firmware

2021-08-12 Thread Alexandre Souza via cctalk
On Thu, 12 Aug 2021 07:44:27 -0700 On 8/12/21 7:25 AM, John Foust via cctalk wrote: HP used Canon formatters on the LW and LWII, then did their own on the LW III with more and more HP ASICs on them. They are all 68000 based. Looks like they switched to i960s or 29000's up through the VI. AF

Re: ISO Laserjet I/II/III firmware

2021-08-12 Thread Al Kossow via cctalk
On 8/12/21 12:46 PM, Alexandre Souza via cctalk wrote: AFAIK HP did the HPII and HPIII formatters https://www.ebay.com/itm/143476807618

RE: ISO Laserjet I/II/III firmware

2021-08-12 Thread ED SHARPE via cctalk
The 4si  my last large printer... ah I miss it!  Ed# Sent from the all new AOL app for Android On Thu, Aug 12, 2021 at 8:50 AM, Ali via cctalk wrote: > There has been some work going on emulating early Laserwriters in MAME > and I was wondering > if anyone still has boards or firmware dump

Re: ISO Laserjet I/II/III firmware

2021-08-12 Thread Al Kossow via cctalk
On 8/12/21 3:16 PM, Zoltan HERPAI wrote: On 08/12/2021 16:47, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote: On 8/12/21 7:18 AM, James B DiGriz via cctalk wrote: I recently pulled out a LaserJet IIIp while cleaning up to make space Someone gave me a IIIp yesterday. I think one sold at VCF-W over the weekend

Re: ISO Laserjet I/II/III firmware

2021-08-12 Thread Mike Loewen via cctalk
My workhorse printer is an HP 5Si/MX. I use it mostly for music and schematics, since it will do up to double-sided 11x17. You can still find NIB toner cartridges on Epay, as well as fusers and other parts. It's a beast. On Thu, 12 Aug 2021, Curious Marc via cctalk wrote: My LaserJet 6M

Re: howto bitsavers BASIC-11 v2 disk image under simh

2021-08-12 Thread Glen Slick via cctalk
On Wed, Aug 11, 2021 at 5:59 PM Paul Koning wrote: > > > On Aug 11, 2021, at 7:06 PM, Fritz Mueller via cctalk > > wrote: > > > >> ... > > > > Ah ha! Thanks much, Glen! > > > > simh is usually pretty good about padding out attached images, > > No, I don't think that is true. What is true is th

Re: ISO Laserjet I/II/III firmware

2021-08-12 Thread Mike Stein via cctalk
I've got a NEC board here with 8 x 27C010 1megabit EPROMs which AFAIK is the postscript firmware for a NEC laser printer; any interest? On Thu, Aug 12, 2021 at 1:34 PM Al Kossow via cctalk wrote: > On 8/12/21 9:09 AM, Zane Healy wrote: > > I’m really curious as to why they’re working on the emul

Re: howto bitsavers BASIC-11 v2 disk image under simh

2021-08-12 Thread Fritz Mueller via cctalk
> On Aug 12, 2021, at 3:31 PM, Glen Slick wrote: > If I translate the logical > sector order RX-02 disk image back into a physical sector order disk > image (dealing with track shifting, sector interleaving, and track to > track sector skewing) then RT-11 on SIMH is happy with the disk image. A

Re: howto bitsavers BASIC-11 v2 disk image under simh

2021-08-12 Thread Glen Slick via cctalk
On Thu, Aug 12, 2021 at 5:29 PM Fritz Mueller wrote: > > > > On Aug 12, 2021, at 3:31 PM, Glen Slick wrote: > > If I translate the logical > > sector order RX-02 disk image back into a physical sector order disk > > image (dealing with track shifting, sector interleaving, and track to > > track s

Re: ISO Laserjet I/II/III firmware

2021-08-12 Thread Zoltan HERPAI via cctalk
On 08/12/2021 16:47, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote: On 8/12/21 7:18 AM, James B DiGriz via cctalk wrote: I recently pulled out a LaserJet IIIp while cleaning up to make space Someone gave me a IIIp yesterday. I think one sold at VCF-W over the weekend I suspect interest in emulating them w