Re: Free: USENIX publications (Computing Systems and late 90s ; login:)

2019-11-30 Thread Nigel Williams via cctalk
On Sat, Nov 30, 2019 at 5:40 PM Alan Perry via cctalk wrote: > https://www.usenix.org/publications/login/ This links to archive.org that has login; back to Volume 8 (1983), but I don't see prior volumes.

Re: Free: USENIX publications (Computing Systems and late 90s ;login:)

2019-11-30 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
On 11/30/19 1:40 AM, Alan Perry via cctalk wrote: > > > On 11/29/19 2:59 PM, Alan Perry via cctalk wrote: >> >> I am continuing to clean out stuff from my office and today's items >> are printed copies of the USENIX publications Computing Systems (early >> 90s) and ;login: (late 90s). The conte

Re: P112

2019-11-30 Thread emanuel stiebler via cctalk
On 2019-11-29 19:01, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote: > > Let's try again with the right name in the Subject line! > > It's not really classic (although it does try to pretend to be > but does anyone here do anything with the P112 SBC? I am trying to > get 8" disks running on it but I am seeing

Re: Free: USENIX publications (Computing Systems and late 90s ; login:)

2019-11-30 Thread Alan Perry via cctalk
On 11/30/19 1:43 AM, Nigel Williams via cctalk wrote: On Sat, Nov 30, 2019 at 5:40 PM Alan Perry via cctalk wrote: https://www.usenix.org/publications/login/ This links to archive.org that has login; back to Volume 8 (1983), but I don't see prior volumes. It has all of the ones that I h

Re: Free: USENIX publications (Computing Systems and late 90s ; login:)

2019-11-30 Thread Al Kossow via cctalk
Usenix wasn't good at archiving. I was told they were given a set of early conference proceedings and tossed them. Would be good for people to keep an eye out for them. We don't have a complete set either https://www.computerhistory.org/collections/catalog/102713986 On 11/30/19 1:43 AM, Nigel W

Re: P112

2019-11-30 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
On 11/30/19 9:15 AM, emanuel stiebler wrote: > On 2019-11-29 19:01, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote: >> >> Let's try again with the right name in the Subject line! >> >> It's not really classic (although it does try to pretend to be >> but does anyone here do anything with the P112 SBC? I am tryi

System/36 Twin-Ax decode help

2019-11-30 Thread alan--- via cctalk
All, I've recently scratched a curiosity itch on what it would take to build a multi-port Twin-Ax to WiFi bridge. The electrical interface is easy enough and ESP32s are cheap. So I built a bridge PCB-to-FPGA adapter and connected my System/36 (5362), an InfoWindow II (address 0 and 1), and my b

Re: P112

2019-11-30 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
On Sat, 30 Nov 2019, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote: I'll start with the simple and funny one. If i run FORMAT it formats all 80 tracks. :-) Seems like the definition for an 8" disk as selected in the config menu is just plain wrong. Of course, once it formats all 80 :-) tracks any attempt

Re: P112

2019-11-30 Thread dwight via cctalk
Don't 8 inch drives have 77 tracks? Dwight From: cctalk on behalf of Bill Gunshannon via cctalk Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2019 9:22 AM To: emanuel stiebler ; General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts Subject: Re: P112 On 11/30/19 9:15 AM, emanuel st

Re: P112

2019-11-30 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
On Sun, 1 Dec 2019, dwight via cctalk wrote: Don't 8 inch drives have 77 tracks? YES. Although 8" "emulation" sometimes cheats and uses 80. And some users with drives without a physical stop tried to squeeze a few more tracks (and 41,42 on 360K) The inability to read those "extra" tracks on

Re: P112

2019-11-30 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
On 11/30/19 7:16 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: > On Sat, 30 Nov 2019, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote: >> I'll start with the simple and funny one.  If i run FORMAT >> it formats all 80 tracks.  :-)  Seems like the definition >> for an 8" disk as selected in the config menu is just plain >> wro

Re: P112

2019-11-30 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
On 11/30/19 7:37 PM, dwight via cctalk wrote: > Don't 8 inch drives have 77 tracks? Give that man a cigar. Apparently the P112 doesn't know the format of 8" disks even though it has an option to set a drive as 8" in the config. bill

Re: P112

2019-11-30 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
A lot could depend on how the software is interpreting the FDC return codes. In the case of PC BIOS (765), error code number 4) that would mean that On Sun, 1 Dec 2019, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote: I think you missed something. This is a P112 SBC not a PC. I watch the head step from tra

Re: P112

2019-11-30 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
On 11/30/19 8:28 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: >>> A lot could depend on how the software is interpreting the FDC return >>> codes. >>> >>> In the case of PC BIOS (765), error code number 4) that would mean that > > On Sun, 1 Dec 2019, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote: >> I think you missed som

Re: System/36 Twin-Ax decode help

2019-11-30 Thread Andrew Kay via cctalk
Alan, You may have already read it but page 9 and 10 of the "MPA-II–A Multi-ProtocolTerminal EmulationAdapter Using the DP8344" document may be helpful. It enumerates the 5250 commands but unfortunately doesn't list the command values. Also pages 47 and 48 of the "DP8344B Biphase Communications

Re: P112

2019-11-30 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
On Sun, 1 Dec 2019, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote: Well, I haven't tried 5.25" but 3.5" disks format/read/write just fine. That is a significant succesful test of MOST of the hardware. (leaving drive, cabling, and software as the likely alternate culprits) Speculating (with no knowledge of

Re: P112

2019-11-30 Thread Richard Cini via cctalk
The current P112 is a reissue from years ago, right? I remember I had one — and I may still have it somewhere — but I only used it with 3.5” drives. Somehow I think it was built that way by design (the board outline fit on a drive). I don’t know how available the code is

Re: P112

2019-11-30 Thread jim stephens via cctalk
On 11/30/2019 6:15 PM, Richard Cini via cctalk wrote: The current P112 is a reissue from years ago, right? I remember I had one — and I may still have it somewhere — but I only used it with 3.5” drives. Somehow I think it was built that way by design (the board outline f

PC 9821 hardware

2019-11-30 Thread Warner Losh via cctalk
Greetings I think the time has come for me to part with my collection of PC 9821 hardware. It has deteriorated over time, but I think it all still works. I have two laptops and a desktop system. I used it to test FreeBSD/pc98 for years, but support was dropped a few years ago and I have no further

Re: P112

2019-11-30 Thread Bill Degnan via cctalk
On Sat, Nov 30, 2019, 9:34 PM jim stephens via cctalk wrote: > > > On 11/30/2019 6:15 PM, Richard Cini via cctalk wrote: > > > > > > > > > > The current P112 is a reissue from years ago, right? I remember I > had one — and I may still have it somewhere — but I only used it with 3.5” > drive

Re: System/36 Twin-Ax decode help

2019-11-30 Thread alan--- via cctalk
From some slef-progress and a few replies.. an update. I've managed to figure out the rough framing of the TwinAx messages from primarily this document: http://bitsavers.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de/pdf/ibm/5250_5251/SY31-0461-0_5251_Display_Station_Model_11_Maintenance_Information_Dec77.pdf

Re: P112

2019-11-30 Thread Eric Dittman via cctalk
On 11/30/2019 8:34 PM, jim stephens via cctalk wrote: On 11/30/2019 6:15 PM, Richard Cini via cctalk wrote: The current P112 is a reissue from years ago, right? I remember I had one — and I may still have it somewhere — but I only used it with 3.5” drives. Somehow I think it was buil