Re: Grid 1537 ”Tempest” schematics

2019-08-17 Thread Torfinn Ingolfsen via cctalk
On Fri, Aug 16, 2019 at 1:16 AM Curt Vendel via cctalk wrote: > > The owner tried them... Grid told him the design is owned by the US Govt > and only they have the technicals on it... I was just hoping someone Aha. Perhaps your friend should try a FOIA request then? Not sure that would work. -

Re: Scanner: was : Re: VAX DATATRIEVE orange binders (4)

2019-08-17 Thread Christian Corti via cctalk
On Fri, 16 Aug 2019, Al Kossow wrote: The scanning info is on the main bitsavers.org page I'm still using a Panasonic KV-S3065CW I checked the backlog of scanned VAX manuals, and it doesn't look like I have anything more scanned fore DATATRIEVE BTW do you still accept scanned documents current

Re: Archiving information, was Re: ADM-3A question

2019-08-17 Thread Christian Corti via cctalk
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Re: Scanner: was : Re: VAX DATATRIEVE orange binders (4)

2019-08-17 Thread Al Kossow via cctalk
On 8/17/19 3:05 AM, Christian Corti via cctalk wrote: > BTW do you still accept scanned documents currently not found on bitsavers? > If yes, how to submit? I do, just email me with a url to download from.

Re: Pinout for current loop interface

2019-08-17 Thread Noel Chiappa via cctalk
> From: Charles Morris > Is there any standard pinout for 20 ma current loop using a DB-25 > connector, analogous to the well-documents RS-232 serial interface? > ... > Or would you recommend I use a different connector entirely? .. Maybe a > Jones 4-pin would make more sen

RE: Pinout for current loop interface

2019-08-17 Thread Electronics Plus via cctalk
Ask Continental Computers, they should still have some. Talk to Lidan. 310-416-1200. -Original Message- From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Noel Chiappa via cctalk Sent: Saturday, August 17, 2019 10:39 AM To: cctalk@classiccmp.org Cc: j...@mercury.lcs.mit.edu S

Re: Pinout for current loop interface

2019-08-17 Thread Tony Duell via cctalk
On Sat, Aug 17, 2019 at 4:38 PM Noel Chiappa via cctalk wrote: > > > From: Charles Morris > > > Is there any standard pinout for 20 ma current loop using a DB-25 > > connector, analogous to the well-documents RS-232 serial interface? > > ... > > Or would you recommend I use a d

Re: Pinout for current loop interface

2019-08-17 Thread Charles via cctalk
I've never heard of people using DB25 for 20mA, at least historically, contemporaneous with its widespread actual use. E.g. DEC universally used 'flat' 8-pin Mate-n-Lok connectors for 20mA serial connections. Thanks for the comments... I asked mostly because the ADM-3A has both RS-232 and curren

Re: Pinout for current loop interface

2019-08-17 Thread Bill Degnan via cctalk
> > Thanks for the comments... I asked mostly because the ADM-3A has both > RS-232 > and current loop interfaces built-in (on the same female DB-25), selected > by > one of the > DIP switches. > > I just hate having to make a custom cable for every terminal and computer I > own or work > I have s

Re: Pinout for current loop interface

2019-08-17 Thread Chris Hanson via cctalk
On Aug 17, 2019, at 9:14 AM, Charles via cctalk wrote: > I just hate having to make a custom cable for every terminal and computer I > own or work with ;) Ah, but isn’t doing what so many before you have had to part of the charm? :) -- Chris

Re: Pinout for current loop interface

2019-08-17 Thread Charles via cctalk
In my prior life as an EE, I had to do it many times (early 80's)... I may be nostalgic, but not THAT nostalgic :) -Original Message- From: Chris Hanson Sent: Saturday, August 17, 2019 1:37 PM To: Charles ; General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts Subject: Re: Pinout for curre

Re: Pinout for current loop interface

2019-08-17 Thread Nigel Johnson via cctalk
You haven't lived until you have played with live long-line teletype current loop circuits. In my first job as an FE on a Univac that was a store and forward message switcher, we had racks of mercury relays feeding the teletype lines, which ran at 130VDC to give the current needed to get to the

Re: Archiving information, was Re: ADM-3A question

2019-08-17 Thread Antonio Carlini via cctalk
On 16/08/2019 16:33, Noel Chiappa via cctalk wrote: There is an automatic backup system which sends copies to a machine at his house, so the particular scenario above (hosting sevice goes away with no warning) is not an issue. (Yes, a Chicxulub event in Scandanavia would defeat that, but we'd all

Re: Pinout for current loop interface

2019-08-17 Thread Ethan Dicks via cctalk
On Sat, Aug 17, 2019 at 12:14 PM Charles via cctalk wrote: > >I've never heard of people using DB25 for 20mA, at least historically, > contemporaneous with its widespread actual use. E.g. DEC universally used > 'flat' 8-pin Mate-n-Lok connectors for 20mA serial connections. > > Thanks for the comm

Re: HP-2250 data acquisition for HP-1000 in Salt Lake City

2019-08-17 Thread Tim Riker via cctalk
I've not heard from anyone interested in this system. It's in a rolling, counter high, rack case. Salt Lake City area. Anyone interested can pick it up. If I don't hear from anyone, it's headed to the dump. On 9/4/2018 10:44 PM, Curious Marc wrote: It's an HP-IB controlled data acquisition bo

Re: Grid 1537 ”Tempest” schematics

2019-08-17 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
On 08/16/2019 02:20 PM, Torfinn Ingolfsen via cctalk wrote: On Fri, Aug 16, 2019 at 1:16 AM Curt Vendel via cctalk wrote: The owner tried them... Grid told him the design is owned by the US Govt and only they have the technicals on it... I was just hoping someone Aha. Perhaps your friend shoul

Re: Grid 1537 ”Tempest” schematics

2019-08-17 Thread John Herron via cctalk
Zomg it's been blocked! Jk. Not sure if you forgot url or tried an attachment but no attachments go through on this mailing list. Be cool to see pics for sure :-) I'm almost surprised that they think it's a secret but I guess that could allow data interception and that defeats the tempest purpo

Re: ADM-3A question

2019-08-17 Thread Charles via cctalk
Tried the ADM-3A out today on my PDP-8/A via the 20 ma current loop interface - just unplugged the ASR-33 and plugged in the glass TTY :) Worked great (the current loop probably had never been used, so no one had a chance to blow it up), but I got tired of holding down the Shift key since OS/8 d

Re: I need a keypunch (briefly)

2019-08-17 Thread Chip Davis via cctalk
Thanks, one and all, for the pointers to working keypunches. Ultimately, the closest one was in Chattanooga and I now have everything I need to fabricate the award. I also used the kloth.com app because I realized that if I punched the cards without the printed interpretation, it wouldn't be o

Re: I need a keypunch (briefly)

2019-08-17 Thread Will Cooke via cctalk
> On August 17, 2019 at 11:41 PM Chip Davis via cctalk > wrote: > > > Thanks, one and all, for the pointers to working keypunches. > Ultimately, the closest one was in Chattanooga and I now have > everything I need to fabricate the award. > > > -Chip- > Hi Chip, I'm wondering if you co