Just to be clear, it wasn't that the CGA hadn't been designed and put
into production by the launch of the PC, the demand for the CGA was
simply overwhelming compared with the much lower demand and relatively
greater supply of the MDA. Plus, IBM had no experience selling into
retail, let alone non
So, I have built a USB adapter for my 5150’s keyboard. The experience is
actually quite bad, as stated earlier. The main reason why I still use it
is because I took it with me from Belgium - it’s a French keyboard, and
having access to all the special characters makes typing in eg. French,
German o
On 10/19/18 12:18 PM, Daniel Seagraves via cctalk wrote:
On Oct 19, 2018, at 10:34 AM, Bill Degnan via cctalk
wrote:
Here is a great example of why the keyboards and terminals are getting
separated
Keyboard fetishists are vermin; They are destructive and have no redeeming
qualities, and
Jim Manley via cctalk writes:
> Many are unaware that the largest fraction of CP/M licenses ever sold
> were for the Microsoft Softcard for the Apple ][ (about 300,000 sold,
> all told),
Do you mean sold up to that point? Amstrad went on to sell several
million PCWs with CP/M later in the 1980s.
At 05:55 AM 10/20/2018, Adam Sampson via cctalk wrote:
>Jim Manley via cctalk writes:
>
>> Many are unaware that the largest fraction of CP/M licenses ever sold
>> were for the Microsoft Softcard for the Apple ][ (about 300,000 sold,
>> all told),
>
>Do you mean sold up to that point? Amstrad went
> From: Al Kossow
> The quality of modern keycaps is poor.
> These guys are after mechanical boards with double-shot keytops.
There's something I'm still not quite grasping.
I can see two reasons for people liking the old keyboards:
- i) Higher quality construction
- ii) Connection,
On Sat, Oct 20, 2018, 9:42 AM Noel Chiappa via cctalk
wrote:
> > From: Al Kossow
>
> > The quality of modern keycaps is poor.
> > These guys are after mechanical boards with double-shot keytops.
>
> There's something I'm still not quite grasping.
>
> I can see two reasons for people l
> From: Doc Shipley
> You guys want people to stop scavenging those irreplaceable treasures?
> Ante up, pure and simple.
That works for keeping stuff out of the hands of scrappers (who are, after
all, business-people) - but not for fetishists who will pay totally
mind-blowing sums fo
I am Definitely not a gamer! but my hands are
poor at typing and the benifit of hearing the key click helps the accuracy a
little.. my xps Dell has pretty loaded games but I have never played one
yet use it for video editing and internet.
l also like keyboard letters do not wear off of
> On Oct 20, 2018, at 2:03 AM, Doc Shipley via cctalk
> wrote:
>
> That's just nasty. Your invective, that is. There are idiots in any
> enthusiast group, and predators. Including this group, if we're honest. You
> want to talk conspicuous consumption? How many on this list, myself
>
all this keyboard jewelry reminds me of people ripping keys off old vintage
typewriters that had the celluloid tops to make woman's jewelry of
very sad.. saw this happening in the places that sold this kid of stuff..
.
In a message dated 10/20/2018 9:31:33 AM US Mountain Standa
On Fri, Oct 19, 2018 at 01:50:20AM -0600, Jim Manley via cctalk wrote:
> I thought it was just hilarious that Microsoft chose The Rolling
> Stones' "Start Me Up" for the theme song at the launch of Windows 95,
> unaware of the later lyrics in the song (not played during the launch,
> oddly enough),
On Sat, 20 Oct 2018, Jim Manley via cctalk wrote:
IBM wasn't even aware of the penetration of dial-up among consumers
and very small businesses, or they would have initially offered
modems, at least as options, if not in package combos. Retailers who
understood the consumer and very small busine
On Sat, Oct 20, 2018 at 6:52 PM Fred Cisin via cctalk
wrote:
> Similarly, although they sold a joystick board, they didn't sell
> joysticks. DA15 connector for two joysticks.
> In some of the documentation, the sketch of a joystick was clearly the
> Radio Shack Coco joystick (which needed a diff
On Sat, 20 Oct 2018, Jim Manley via cctalk wrote:
IBM wasn't even aware of the penetration of dial-up among consumers
and very small businesses, . . .
Another sign that IBM wasn't confident about the longevity of the PC
is that they outsourced the development of its OS to Microsoft,
believing t
On 10/20/18 10:41 AM, Noel Chiappa via cctalk wrote:
> From: Al Kossow
> The quality of modern keycaps is poor.
> These guys are after mechanical boards with double-shot keytops.
There's something I'm still not quite grasping.
I can see two reasons for people liking the old keyb
Similarly, although they sold a joystick board, they didn't sell
joysticks. DA15 connector for two joysticks.
In some of the documentation, the sketch of a joystick was clearly the
Radio Shack Coco joystick (which needed a different connector)
On Sat, 20 Oct 2018, Tony Duell wrote:
And is elec
On Sat, Oct 20, 2018, 01:46 Jim Manley via cctalk
wrote:
> The Softcard was a Z-80 based single-board
> computer
It wasn't. It was only a processor card.
that plugged into an Apple ][ slot, equipped with its own
> 80x24 character x line black-and-white video output,
No version of the Softcar
The Softcard was a Z-80 based single-board
computer
On Sat, 20 Oct 2018, Eric Smith via cctalk wrote:
It wasn't. It was only a processor card.
No version of the Softcard had it's own video output. It used normal Apple
video output. If you wanted 80x24, you had to use a separate third-party
80-
Ugh - this is super frustrating to see. Especially since I have a 3101
here with no keyboard. And the reason *why* it has no keyboard? It got
bought out from under me. I bought this terminal, complete, on eBay.
It arrives... with no keyboard. I complained to the seller, he
refunded all my money and
I'm surprised there aren't a boatload of arduino projects to create a PC
keyboard to each of the classics...
Warner
On Sat, Oct 20, 2018, 6:00 PM Ian Primus via cctalk
wrote:
> Ugh - this is super frustrating to see. Especially since I have a 3101
> here with no keyboard. And the reason *why* i
On 10/20/18 5:16 PM, Warner Losh via cctalk wrote:
> I'm surprised there aren't a boatload of arduino projects to create a PC
> keyboard to each of the classics...
If things continue as they are, people will be forced to do that, or create
replicas.
In the past, the kb collectors would build
On Sat, Oct 20, 2018 at 7:56 PM Al Kossow via cctalk
wrote:
>
>
> On 10/20/18 5:16 PM, Warner Losh via cctalk wrote:
> > I'm surprised there aren't a boatload of arduino projects to create a PC
> > keyboard to each of the classics...
>
> If things continue as they are, people will be forced to do
On Sat, Oct 20, 2018 at 9:05 PM Warner Losh wrote:
>
>
> On Sat, Oct 20, 2018 at 7:56 PM Al Kossow via cctalk <
> cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On 10/20/18 5:16 PM, Warner Losh via cctalk wrote:
>> > I'm surprised there aren't a boatload of arduino projects to create a PC
>> > keyboard
On Sat, Oct 20, 2018 at 8:28 PM Fred Cisin via cctalk
wrote:
>
> >> Similarly, although they sold a joystick board, they didn't sell
> >> joysticks. DA15 connector for two joysticks.
> >> In some of the documentation, the sketch of a joystick was clearly the
> >> Radio Shack Coco joystick (which
It's Beanie Babies all over again, people. Give it a year or two and the
keyboard market will likely crash. Pick them up on the slide down. I bet
most will not be gutted, simply due to the general lack of activity of
computer people. Just like we are.
--
Will (who paid attention to all those IBM t
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