> From: Paul Koning
> inside are a whole pile of boards, all single-sided etch with many
> hundreds of jumpers to compensate for not being two-sided. Not cheap,
> presumably
If memory serves, didn't the VT52 also have single-sided boards with a whole
bunch of jumper wires? Somethi
On Thu, Sep 6, 2018 at 6:15 PM, Carlo Pisani via cctalk
wrote:
> I am building my own VT100 terminal (FPGA project), and it will be
> laptop-shape :P
Trend Data System (the company that made some very nice paper tape readers
made/sold such a terminal many years ago. There were at least 2 versions
> On Sep 7, 2018, at 8:46 AM, Noel Chiappa via cctalk
> wrote:
>
>> From: Paul Koning
>
>> inside are a whole pile of boards, all single-sided etch with many
>> hundreds of jumpers to compensate for not being two-sided. Not cheap,
>> presumably
>
> If memory serves, didn't the VT52 also hav
> On Sep 6, 2018, at 8:49 PM, Rick Murphy via cctalk
> wrote:
>
> On 9/6/2018 1:15 PM, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote:
>> On Sep 6, 2018, at 1:09 PM, allison via cctalk wrote:
>>> Mostly about screen memory which back then was small and not cheap.
>> True. Did the VT05 use core memory for tha
> On Sep 6, 2018, at 6:20 PM, Al Kossow via cctalk
> wrote:
>
>
>
> On 9/6/18 2:55 PM, Peter Coghlan via cctalk wrote:
>
>> If you bought a bought a machine from DEC, you probably needed DEC terminals
>> or clones of them to get the best from it. However, the same probably
>> applied
>>
> From: Anders Nelson
> Their latest comments on Facebook mention they're about halfway there.
Yeah, but I was wanting to know how things had gone since that posting
(although I haven't looked to see if there's any update). As of last night,
they'd made significant progress past what was
On 9/6/2018 10:38 PM, Mark J. Blair via cctalk wrote:
A long time ago, I had the incomplete remnants of an oddball terminal which I
retrieved from a junk pile at a small, obscure school in Pasadena. I'll try to
describe it as best I can, based on old memory. I could have sworn that it had
a da
Speaking of oddball terminals, does anyone have details on Cybernex APL-100
terminals?
I acquired one a couple of years ago and have had no luck locating
documentation for them.
From: "cctalk"
To: "cctalk"
Sent: Friday, September 7, 2018 8:41:23 AM
Subject: Re: Oddball Terminals (Was: Re:
> On Sep 7, 2018, at 8:41 AM, Bob Rosenbloom via cctalk
> wrote:
>
> The display was most likely a Tektronix 611. DEC used them with their point
> plot display systems like the VC8E.
I am pretty sure that the display was a 611 in its vertical configuration:
http://w140.com/tekwiki/wiki/611
On 9/7/18 9:09 AM, Mark J. Blair via cctalk wrote:
> The display was a fully enclosed standalone unit, not a bare chassis. It sat
> on top of the bottom chassis of the terminal and then had another cover
> fitted over it.
>
> It had screen burn which indicated its use as part of a text termi
On 9/7/18 10:00 AM, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote:
> The VT02 was apparently a PDP-8 device
>
> https://digital.library.unt.edu/ark:/67531/metadc1185657/m2/1/high_res_d/6649931.pdf
>
This was hard to find, because web searches turn up hundreds of hits from some
dufus that mistyped VT02 instead
Thanks for digging that up! I had never managed to google up any details
before.
--
Mark J. Blair
http://www.nf6x.net
I just put up some pictures of the vt02, 05, 20, and 71t
under http://bitsavers.org/pdf/dec/terminal
On 9/7/18 10:45 AM, Mark J. Blair via cctalk wrote:
> Thanks for digging that up! I had never managed to google up any details
> before.
>
> --
> Mark J. Blair
> http://www.nf6x.net
>
interesting.. the vt71t has inverted-T cursor keys
On 9/7/18 11:57 AM, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote:
> I just put up some pictures of the vt02, 05, 20, and 71t
> under http://bitsavers.org/pdf/dec/terminal
>
> From: Al Kossow
> I just put up some pictures of the vt02, 05
Those useable for the CHWiki (with credit, of course)?
Oddly enough, I just did the article on the VT05 about a week ago!
Noel
> On Sep 7, 2018, at 2:57 PM, Al Kossow via cctalk
> wrote:
>
> I just put up some pictures of the vt02, 05, 20, and 71t
> under http://bitsavers.org/pdf/dec/terminal
Nice, working photos of a VT20. I'd forgotten the oddball keys on the side.
In the VT71 picture, you can see the UDKs -- th
That’s it! The terminal I had was definitely the one in this picture:
http://bitsavers.org/pdf/dec/terminal/vt02/vt02_1.jpg
--
Mark J. Blair
http://www.nf6x.net
On Sep 7, 2018, at 12:00, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote:
> interesting.. the vt71t has inverted-T cursor keys
And CAPS LOCK in the home row to the left of the A key. The VT220 made it
w-i-d-e. Can we now fix the blame for the two of the three worst ideas in
computer keyboard design on d|i|g|i|t|a
On Fri, Sep 7, 2018 at 5:16 PM Frank McConnell via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> On Sep 7, 2018, at 12:00, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote:
> > interesting.. the vt71t has inverted-T cursor keys
>
> And CAPS LOCK in the home row to the left of the A key. The VT220 made it
> w-i-d-e. Can we
> On Sep 7, 2018, at 4:15 PM, Frank McConnell via cctalk
> wrote:
>
> On Sep 7, 2018, at 12:00, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote:
>> interesting.. the vt71t has inverted-T cursor keys
>
> And CAPS LOCK in the home row to the left of the A key. The VT220 made it
> w-i-d-e. Can we now fix the bla
On Fri, Sep 7, 2018 at 5:33 PM Guy Sotomayor Jr via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> I also looked at the keyboards on my Symbolics machines, and where I’d
> like to have the control key is the “rubout” key. But given that there are
> no fewer than 5 “shift” keys on the Symbolics keyboard
> On Sep 7, 2018, at 4:35 PM, Warner Losh wrote:
>
>
>
> On Fri, Sep 7, 2018 at 5:33 PM Guy Sotomayor Jr via cctalk
> mailto:cctalk@classiccmp.org>> wrote:
> I also looked at the keyboards on my Symbolics machines, and where I’d like
> to have the control key is the “rubout” key. But give
Hi,
I have an HP 260 that I'd like to find a new home for.
I'm currently thinking of taking it to the ham radio / antique-computer
swapmeet
(ASVARO, held at Fry's Sunnyvale, CA, tomorrow morning).
Thought I'd mention it here in case someone was interested in it.
For those unfamiliar with it, it's
On 09/07/2018 02:55 PM, Mark J. Blair via cctalk wrote:
That’s it! The terminal I had was definitely the one in this picture:
http://bitsavers.org/pdf/dec/terminal/vt02/vt02_1.jpg
The display is actually a Tektronix 611 direct-view storage
tube.
Jon
you need to plan a trip to grand canyon! ... odd enough I never saw one of
these computers in az. ed#
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On Friday, September 7, 2018 Stan Sieler via cctalk wrote:
Hi,
I have an HP 260 that I'd like to find a new home for.
I'm currently thinking of taking it to the ham r
had a tectronix terminal like this also had a slide out drawer with
many small gold plated cards looked like the earliest tecx made
terminal for graphics I had ever seen. was heavy very heavy and very
long with I still had it... it was back in the mid 80s I so
I have a teletype 40PSU101 I can drop off at VCFMW or mail, but is is a bit
heavy.
If you have any interest, please contact me off list.
Thanks, Paul
If anyone has serious interest in one, please contact mo off list.. I can
bring it to VCFMW.
Thanks, Paul
On Fri, Sep 7, 2018 at 6:33 AM, Tony Duell via cctalk wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 6, 2018 at 6:15 PM, Carlo Pisani via cctalk
> wrote:
> > I am building my own VT100 terminal (FPGA project), and it will be
> > laptop-shape :P
>
> Trend Data System (the company that made some very nice paper tape reader
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