yes indeed!
yea would have been the front part of the 80s date wise... can not
remember exactly though..
We had a Xerox store in Metro Center here in Phx...
I remember laughing as I went away how thankful our company was in an
industrial park and NOT in a high traffic area..
> On 13 Jul 2017, at 22:46, Eric Smith via cctalk wrote:
>
> On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 10:42 AM, William Sudbrink via cctalk <
> cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
>
>> If you have the bucks, go for a Pace station with an SX-100 desoldering
>> tool. 40 pin chips
>> fall out like they were never solde
Jim sending you in a separate message some newspaper ads for some of
these stores... they also sold osbornes and apples etc... as well as
their own business xerox systems.
Ed# smecc -
In a message dated 7/13/2017 10:05:50 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time,
cctalk@classiccmp.o
$9.99 a piece? Mind boggling.
Marc
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via cctalk
Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2017 8:15 AM
To: cctalk
Subject: Re: Cipher F880 with S100 interface card on local CL
On 07/10/2017 10:36 PM, Ethan Dicks
I still have an unpopulated Xerox-820 motherboard floating around
here somewhere. They were popular with ham radio operators for
BBSes and later with early KA9Q TCPIP systems.
bill
From: cctalk [cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] on behalf of Chuck Guzis via
>
>
>
> Yup, there was definitely one in Santa Clara (IIRC). I picked up a few
> things at their going-out-of business sale. I think one was a DTC
> document feeder for a Diablo Hitype and some miscellaneous furniture.
>
> Who knows--buried in my old records, I may even have an invoice.
>
> Cont
The IBM Product centers were bought by NYNEX, and in turn purchased by
ComputerLand.
The Baltimore NYNEX location was in the our ComputerLand franchise protected
territory, so technically ComputerLand Corporation was in violation of our
ComputerLand Franchise. This was great news for us, since
On 7/13/17 10:11 PM, Jason T via cctalk wrote:
> Many databooks I find are printed on the fragile "telephone book" type
> paper, either transparent, beige or both. Do you have any techniques
> for getting good images out of those, and making sure they survive the
> trip through the ADF?
>
I'v
https://arstechnica.co.uk/science/2017/07/nasa-computer-engineer-basement/
of events that happened two years ago that had to be obtained through a NASA
FOIA request
Unfortunately this seems to be what happens with a lot of old engineers'
hardware.
Thanks,
Jonathan
On Fri, Jul 14, 2017 at 10:25 AM, Al Kossow via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
>
> https://arstechnica.co.uk/science/2017/07/nasa-computer-engineer-basement/
>
> of events that happened tw
Tell me about it. We get a lot of calls from widows in the valley.
I have other people deal with it now, because I find going there too depressing.
I wonder if the guy had the CDC 160 that would have gone with those 162 tape
drives
or how much documentation was ignored and dumpstered.
On 7/14/17
>
>>
>> https://arstechnica.co.uk/science/2017/07/nasa-computer-engineer-basement/
>>
>> of events that happened two years ago that had to be obtained through a
>> NASA FOIA request
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> Unfortunately this seems to be what happens with a lot of old engineers'
> hardware.
>
> Than
On 7/14/17 7:45 AM, Ian McLaughlin via cctalk wrote:
>>
> Why would NASA say “destroy the tapes” ?
Because they are a health risk, they have no facilities to recover the data,
and someone
decided they didn't have a budget to attempt to preserve them given they have
no idea what
is on them.
I
>
> Why would NASA say “destroy the tapes” ?
>
If I'm reading the report correctly, the tapes were quite infected with
mold, and probably unreadable. I'd guess it wouldn't be worth the health
hazard to try, especially given NASA's view that there was nothing
historically significant there.
Still
On Fri, Jul 14, 2017 at 9:09 AM, Ed Thierbach via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> >
> > Why would NASA say “destroy the tapes” ?
> >
>
> If I'm reading the report correctly, the tapes were quite infected with
> mold, and probably unreadable. I'd guess it wouldn't be worth the health
> ha
The amount of data stored on 325 tapes would have been at most 58.5
gigabytes assuming 6250 encoding and single records over the length of the
tape. Given the time frame I would guess that these were probably only 800
bpi and thus the max would have been 7.5 gigabytes. And probably at most
half o
On 2017-07-14 11:13 AM, Doug Ingraham via cctalk wrote:
The amount of data stored on 325 tapes would have been at most 58.5
gigabytes assuming 6250 encoding and single records over the length of the
tape. Given the time frame I would guess that these were probably only 800
bpi and thus the max w
On 07/13/2017 11:14 PM, jim stephens via cctalk wrote:
But he swears they were sold in Xerox Computer Stores that
existed by the
thousands - for a rather brief period.
I have only the faintest memory of such a thing, I didn't
start to work for
Xerox until 1985, and I don't recall the stores
On 07/13/2017 11:26 PM, jim stephens via cctalk wrote:
On 7/13/2017 6:52 PM, Jon Elson via cctalk wrote:
On 07/13/2017 11:02 AM, jim stephens via cctalk wrote:
On 7/13/2017 12:31 AM, Eric Smith via cctalk wrote:
There are also vacuum desoldering stations that use
"shop air" to derive
the v
On 07/14/2017 09:00 AM, Jon Elson via cctalk wrote:
> Hmmm, I really don't remember any such thing. I suspect that some
> independent computer store chain got an OK to have a big Xerox logo out
> on the front. That would be quite believable. Some time in the early
> 80's there were computer sto
I remember going to a Xerox store in '85 and buying a brand-new Macintosh.
From: "cctalk"
To: "cctalk"
Sent: Friday, July 14, 2017 9:24:10 AM
Subject: Re: Xerox stores
On 07/14/2017 09:00 AM, Jon Elson via cctalk wrote:
> Hmmm, I really don't remember any such thing. I suspect that some
Many, many years ago I acquired a bunch of Terak micros from a storage
locker. It was being leased by my employer and no one had been tracking
what was stored there. One day a beancounter showed up, questioned the
monthly payment and instructed us to "clean it out". I got the Teraks. But,
the
PR black eye? I doubt it. Who, other than the people here, is ever going
to hear about it?
bill
From: cctalk [cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] on behalf of Al Kossow via cctalk
[cctalk@classiccmp.org]
Sent: Friday, July 14, 2017 11:06 AM
To: cctalk@classi
Xerox comps were featured copiers too...
plus some other brands.. I always had the feeling they were XEROX
company sponsored... but?
In a newspaper archive search I come up with a lot of ads across the
country between 81 and 83... I sent some adds to some of the people that
w
On 07/14/2017 08:37 AM, Toby Thain via cctalk wrote:
> Calculations of how much storage would be required aren't of much
> interest if the data itself isn't safely or cost effectively recoverable.
>
> The fault here isn't with NASA -- it's that few of us are able to store
> artefacts in suitable
On Fri, Jul 14, 2017 at 8:13 AM, william degnan via cctalk
wrote:
> And don't forget about the IBM Product Centers, bought out in the late 80's
> by NyNex. They sold IBM business products including copiers, typewriters,
> Displaywriters, System 36 accessories, printers and eventually PCs and
> mo
On 7/14/17 9:34 AM, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote:
> PR black eye? I doubt it. Who, other than the people here, is ever going
> to hear about it?
anyone who saw the story posted on arstechnica.co.uk today, which is where the
original
posting points to
On Thu, 13 Jul 2017, jim stephens via cctalk wrote:
But he swears they were sold in Xerox Computer Stores that existed by
the
thousands - for a rather brief period.
Many dozens, certainly. Probably less than 100. Not "thousands".
https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/business/1981/10/19/xe
>
> A couple of years ago I bought the UK-branded equivalent of the Zhongdi ZD-
> 915 desoldering station and I can quite honestly say it’s the best thing I’ve
> bought for this hobby/obsession. To anyone struggling with solder wick and
> manual pumps it’s worth far more in saved time than anythi
Even the "Tandy Radio Shack Computer Center" stores only numbered 500.
(just the specialized "computer stores", not counting the TRS-80 for sale
in the corner of every Radio Shack store (7400 peak))
Correction: The majority of the "Tandy Radio Shack Computer Center"s were
IN Radio Shack retail
On 7/14/2017 9:39 AM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote:
You have no idea how much data is stashed away in the form of tape in a
NASA/JPL warehouse. Many of the tapes have very sketchy labels--you
have to remember that NASA is a lot like many of contract vendors like
Lockheed. A project winds up,
we had a stand alone one in metro center phx... wold drop.in with a few of my
employees and play Dino wars on the coco there
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On Friday, July 14, 2017 Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote:
> Even the "Tandy Radio Shack Computer Center" stores only numbered 500.
> (just the speci
we had a stand alone one in metro center phx... wold drop.in with a few of my
employees and play Dino wars on the coco there
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On Friday, July 14, 2017 Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote:
> Even the "Tandy Radio Shack Computer Center" stores only numbered 500.
> (just the speci
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On Fri, Jul 14, 2017 at 3:06 PM, jim stephens via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
>
>
> On 7/14/2017 9:39 AM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote:
>
>> You have no idea how much data is stashed away in the form of tape in a
>> NASA/JPL war
Many databooks I find are printed on the fragile "telephone book" type
paper, either transparent, beige or both. Do you have any techniques
for getting good images out of those, and making sure they survive the
trip through the ADF?
Always scan those monochrome. (A lot of people insist on colo
> On Jul 14, 2017, at 3:23 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk
> wrote:
>
>> Many databooks I find are printed on the fragile "telephone book" type
>> paper, either transparent, beige or both. Do you have any techniques
>> for getting good images out of those, and making sure they survive the
>> trip th
Many databooks I find are printed on the fragile "telephone book" type
paper, either transparent, beige or both. Do you have any techniques
for getting good images out of those, and making sure they survive the
trip through the ADF?
Always scan those monochrome. (A lot of people insist on color
On Fri, Jul 14, 2017 at 9:25 AM, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote:
>
> https://arstechnica.co.uk/science/2017/07/nasa-computer-engineer-basement/
>
> of events that happened two years ago that had to be obtained through a
> NASA FOIA request
>
Another depressing recent article:
https://www.theatlantic
On Fri, Jul 14, 2017 at 3:02 PM, Eric Christopherson <
echristopher...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 14, 2017 at 9:25 AM, Al Kossow via cctalk <
> cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
>
>>
>> https://arstechnica.co.uk/science/2017/07/nasa-computer-engi
>> neer-basement/
>>
>> of events that happened tw
Hurrah!
On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 4:03 PM, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote:
> As of this morning, there are now over a thousand data books on bitsavers,
> and well over four
> million pages in all of the pdfs there.
>
> In the middle of June, I got my fifth large databook collection, and
> didn't have
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Sent: Friday, July 14, 2017 12:46 PM
Subject: Re: Xerox stores
> On Fri, Jul 14, 2017 at 8:13 AM, william degnan via cctalk
> wrote:
>> And don't forget about the IBM Product Center
On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 01:03:56PM -0700, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote:
> As of this morning, there are now over a thousand data books on
> bitsavers, and well over four million pages in all of the pdfs
> there.
Thank you.
So what is the title of a lucky manual?
--
Regards,
Tomasz Rola
--
** A C
On 7/14/17 1:42 PM, Tomasz Rola wrote:
> So what is the title of a lucky manual?
>
toshiba/_dataBooks/1988_Toshiba_TLCS-68000_Users_Manual.pdf
I recently acquired an Ithaca Intersystems DPS-1 that had several plastic
paddles missing. All but one switch appears to be there but 14 of the
orange plastic paddles are missing. I am assuming they are unobtanium so I
guess the question is, has anyone drawn out and 3D printed any paddle
replacem
I liked the DEC retail store over in mid Phx.
the sales guy was an ex pdp8 customer engineer! leaned much from
him!
I mentioned metro center in several posts contains places it also
harbored the corp. hq for Dataphase ( AZ version of computerland) and also
Businessland...
This is often called "The Information Era".
I've always called it "The Information Lost Era".
You may quote me.
Why the NASA person said to immediately destroy the tapes, one can only guess.
Those tapes belonged to the people of the USA. They were not some single
persons option to destroy. We
> On Jul 14, 2017, at 5:59 PM, dwight via cctalk wrote:
>
> This is often called "The Information Era".
>
> I've always called it "The Information Lost Era".
>
> You may quote me.
>
> Why the NASA person said to immediately destroy the tapes, one can only guess.
>
> Those tapes belonged to
On 07/14/2017 11:24 AM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote:
On 07/14/2017 09:00 AM, Jon Elson via cctalk wrote:
Hmmm, I really don't remember any such thing. I suspect that some
independent computer store chain got an OK to have a big Xerox logo out
on the front. That would be quite believable. So
On 07/14/2017 11:32 AM, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote:
Many, many years ago I acquired a bunch of Terak micros from a storage
locker. It was being leased by my employer and no one had been tracking
what was stored there. One day a beancounter showed up, questioned the
monthly payment and in
Backwater == St. Louis, BTW, a place I visit pretty often.
Still my all time favorite, Stu's Gateway Electronics still going.
Recently touched base with them
when I found a giveaway. My cousin caught hell when he took me to one
of their first locations
down on Delmar. You don't take a 10 or
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