Re: DEC archives

2017-06-15 Thread Pontus Pihlgren via cctalk
On Tue, Jun 13, 2017 at 05:40:14PM -0400, Mark Kahrs via cctalk wrote: > In case you hadn't heard, the DEC archives at CHM are available and here's > the PDF: > > http://archive.computerhistory.org/resources/access/text/finding-aids/102733963-DEC/102733963-DEC.pdf > > Now, I wonder if it has Fire

Re: DEC archives

2017-06-15 Thread Rod Smallwood via cctalk
On 15/06/2017 07:59, emanuel stiebler via cctalk wrote: On 2017-06-14 19:54, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote: On 6/14/17 7:27 AM, Toby Thain via cctalk wrote: A thousand boxes are not at all accessible. They are trivial to access. You just have to cart your lazy asses to Fremont. I probably

Re: DEC archives

2017-06-15 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On Jun 15, 2017, at 3:00 AM, Pontus Pihlgren via cctalk > wrote: > > On Tue, Jun 13, 2017 at 05:40:14PM -0400, Mark Kahrs via cctalk wrote: >> In case you hadn't heard, the DEC archives at CHM are available and here's >> the PDF: >> >> http://archive.computerhistory.org/resources/access/text

Re: DEC archives

2017-06-15 Thread Al Kossow via cctalk
There are no plans or budget to scan this material en mass, so it wouldn't make sense for anyone to come here assuming they would be allowed to do that. If you look at the actual museum policy on copying material in the collection, it is done on demand by staff at 50 cents per page. On 6/14/17 1

Re: DEC archives

2017-06-15 Thread Al Kossow via cctalk
On 6/15/17 8:19 AM, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote: > If you look at the actual museum policy on copying material in the collection, > it is done on demand by staff at 50 cents per page. http://www.computerhistory.org/collections/requests/

Re: DEC archives

2017-06-15 Thread Rod Smallwood via cctalk
On 15/06/2017 16:19, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote: There are no plans or budget to scan this material en mass, so it wouldn't make sense for anyone to come here assuming they would be allowed to do that. If you look at the actual museum policy on copying material in the collection, it is done on

Re: DEC archives

2017-06-15 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On Jun 15, 2017, at 11:38 AM, Rod Smallwood via cctalk > wrote: > > > > On 15/06/2017 16:19, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote: >> There are no plans or budget to scan this material en mass, so it wouldn't >> make >> sense for anyone to come here assuming they would be allowed to do that. >> >>

Apple ][ PS and more - Ken Shirriff's blog

2017-06-15 Thread Shoppa, Tim via cctalk
I just recently discovered Ken Shirriff's blog which has a lot of interesting stuff. e.g. http://www.righto.com/2012/02/apple-didnt-revolutionize-power.html discusses not just outlandish claims about the Apple II power supply, but also the evolution of switching power supplies in computers from

Re: DEC archives

2017-06-15 Thread Mark Linimon via cctalk
Is there no way that occasional volunteer effort could be used in this or other tasks at the CHM? mcl

Re: DEC Archives

2017-06-15 Thread Lyle Bickley via cctalk
On Tue, 13 Jun 2017 11:42:18 -0700 Lyle Bickley via cctalk wrote: --snip-- > I have personally reviewed several boxes of the DEC archives - and > they are a terrific asset in understanding both DEC's business > successes and failures, engineering prowess and bad decisions, etc. Al and others ha

Re: DEC Archives

2017-06-15 Thread Lyle Bickley via cctalk
On Tue, 13 Jun 2017 11:42:18 -0700 Lyle Bickley wrote: Note: This is a re-post - as my last post didn't seem to make it to cctalk... --snip-- > I have personally reviewed several boxes of the DEC archives - and > they are a terrific asset in understanding both DEC's business > successes and fai

Re: DEC archives

2017-06-15 Thread Curious Marc via cctalk
On Jun 15, 2017, at 11:33 AM, Mark Linimon via cctalk wrote: Is there no way that occasional volunteer effort could be used in this or other tasks at the CHM? mcl Absolutely. The museum archival and cataloging efforts enlist the support of many volunteers (and donors). It would not qualify it a

Re: DEC Archives

2017-06-15 Thread Rod Smallwood via cctalk
On 15/06/2017 23:01, Lyle Bickley via cctalk wrote: On Tue, 13 Jun 2017 11:42:18 -0700 Lyle Bickley wrote: Note: This is a re-post - as my last post didn't seem to make it to cctalk... --snip-- I have personally reviewed several boxes of the DEC archives - and they are a terrific asset in

Re: DEC archives

2017-06-15 Thread Toby Thain via cctalk
On 2017-06-14 1:54 PM, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote: On 6/14/17 7:27 AM, Toby Thain via cctalk wrote: A thousand boxes are not at all accessible. They are trivial to access. You just have to cart your lazy asses to Fremont. No, _even on site_ 1000 boxes are very hard to access (compared t

Re: DEC archives

2017-06-15 Thread Mark Linimon via cctalk
On Thu, Jun 15, 2017 at 03:17:33PM -0700, Curious Marc via cctalk wrote: > It would not qualify it as occasional volunteering though: Well that's particularly what I was getting to: if some of us (e.g. myself) were in Silicon Valley for a few days, could we be put to work, or would having us under

Re: DEC archives

2017-06-15 Thread Rod Smallwood via cctalk
On 15/06/2017 23:55, Mark Linimon via cctalk wrote: On Thu, Jun 15, 2017 at 03:17:33PM -0700, Curious Marc via cctalk wrote: It would not qualify it as occasional volunteering though: Well that's particularly what I was getting to: if some of us (e.g. myself) were in Silicon Valley for a few

Re: DEC archives

2017-06-15 Thread Sam O'nella via cctalk
I never did query about that. I've only been twice in 10 years but if i was there I'd certainly volunteer time if its something i either know or can quickly learn to do. VCF West Al nighter party :-) Original message From: Mark Linimon via cctalk Well that's particularly what

RE: DEC archives

2017-06-15 Thread Rich Alderson via cctalk
From: Rod Smallwood Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2017 8:39 AM > Stop this Policy and Budget nonsense and accept gracefully the help you > have been offered. You speak as if this were Al's personal decision and policy. It is not. Museums are expected to adhere to a set of standards of care for their

Re: DEC archives

2017-06-15 Thread Mark Linimon via cctalk
On Thu, Jun 15, 2017 at 06:27:57PM +, Rich Alderson via cctalk wrote: > In order for this work to be done by volunteers, they first have to be > vetted, and their work must be overseen by a professional (which costs > those scarce funds). Simply this statement would have answered my newbie que

Re: DEC archives

2017-06-15 Thread Rod Smallwood via cctalk
On 15/06/2017 19:27, Rich Alderson via cctalk wrote: From: Rod Smallwood Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2017 8:39 AM Stop this Policy and Budget nonsense and accept gracefully the help you have been offered. You speak as if this were Al's personal decision and policy. It is not. Museums are expec

RE: DEC archives

2017-06-15 Thread Sam O'nella via cctalk
Ok revising my overly simple thought of vounteers showing up.  What about a class on document archival at VCFw (or other) and then an archive party?  Not trying to push a non-issue, but if that gets past any legal requirements id still absolutely help out any of the local museums if in their area

Re: DEC archives

2017-06-15 Thread Lyle Bickley via cctalk
On Thu, 15 Jun 2017 23:45:37 -0500 Sam O'nella via cctalk wrote: > Ok revising my overly simple thought of vounteers showing up.  What > about a class on document archival at VCFw (or other) and then an > archive party? Not trying to push a non-issue, but if that gets past > any legal requirement

Re: DEC archives

2017-06-15 Thread Pontus Pihlgren via cctalk
On Thu, Jun 15, 2017 at 06:27:57PM +, Rich Alderson via cctalk wrote: > > More things have been accidentally damaged or destroyed by enthusiastic > amateurs than have ever been preserved with proper provenance, cataloguing, > and care. > I've seen this first hand, it is quite depressing. /P

dd-equivalent for VMS

2017-06-15 Thread Rob Jarratt via cctalk
Is there a dd equivalent for VMS? Background: I am trying to recover some TK50 tapes that were written on Ultrix. I have a MIPS machine with Ultrix 4.5 on it and a TK50Z drive. I have been able to read some tapes but they all seem to get an I/O error after a while of reading. I think th