The 8510 has some versions but I know the B version uses the 69020 and also has
a tape unit which is controlled by the TACO processor also used in the 9845/35
series computer. They’re nice instruments but a bit bulky. It contains a
display unit and at least the analyser unit to be usefull.
-Ri
I have a fond memory of these. I am interested. Would they allow me to send a
shipper to pick it up for crating and shipping?
Marc
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> On Jul 8, 2016, at 1:15 PM, Brent Hilpert wrote:
>
> So a friend tells me there's a maybe-abandoned HP 8510 Network Analyzer in
> the hallway
Blinkenlight heaven ;-)
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> On Jul 8, 2016, at 12:19 AM, Eric Christopherson
> wrote:
>
> This gigantic, $53,000 hobbyist-built computer is making the rounds on
> Facebook:
> http://gizmodo.com/guy-spends-four-years-50k-building-giant-computer-to-1783190283?utm_campaign=socialf
2016-07-07 17:36 GMT+02:00 J. David Bryan :
> The second release of the HP 3000 Series III simulator is now available
> from the Computer History Simulation Project (SIMH) site:
>
> [...]
> ...has been updated to add the following features:
>
> - Preinstalled User-Defined Commands (UDCs) prov
On Thu, Jul 07, 2016 at 07:47:32PM +0100, Rod Smallwood wrote:
>
>
> On 07/07/2016 19:11, John H. Reinhardt wrote:
> >On 7/7/2016 3:02 AM, Rod Smallwood wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Forwarded Message
> >>Subject: Re: Front Panels - New development - Bezels
> >>Date: Thu, 7
On 08/07/2016 07:14, Pontus Pihlgren wrote:
On Thu, Jul 07, 2016 at 07:47:32PM +0100, Rod Smallwood wrote:
On 07/07/2016 19:11, John H. Reinhardt wrote:
On 7/7/2016 3:02 AM, Rod Smallwood wrote:
Forwarded Message
Subject: Re: Front Panels - New development - Bezels
D
On Thu, Jul 7, 2016 at 5:19 PM, Eric Christopherson
wrote:
> This gigantic, $53,000 hobbyist-built computer is making the rounds on
> Facebook:
> http://gizmodo.com/guy-spends-four-years-50k-building-giant-computer-to-1783190283?utm_campaign=socialflow_gizmodo_facebook&utm_source=gizmodo_facebook&
You still have FORTRAN (66), RPG, SPL, and BASIC;
besides the 2 COBOL compilers.
Keven Miller
- Original Message -
From: "SPC"
To: "General Discussion: On-Topic Posts"
Sent: Fri 08 Jul 2016 12:57 AM
Subject: Re: Second release of the HP 3000 Series III simulator
2016-07-07 17:36 GM
On Fri, Jul 8, 2016 at 8:14 AM, Pontus Pihlgren wrote:
>
> Is there a way to tell your replicas from the originals? Given the prices
> of some original panels it would be nice to be able to identify a
> "counterfeit" one.
Hopefully he has put a "Origin:" or "Creator:" line somewhere on the
backsi
On 8 July 2016 at 04:33, Rod Smallwood wrote:
> Ho Hum I ask understanding for seniors memory.
:-)
WordStar commands are still used in some things, such as JOE.
However, they went away before the GUI era and are mostly now
forgotten. Including by you! ;-)
WordPerfect replaced WordStar on DOS.
> On Jul 8, 2016, at 12:15 AM, Brent Hilpert wrote:
>
> So a friend tells me there's a maybe-abandoned HP 8510 Network Analyzer in
> the hallway of the engineering building of the univ. he works at.
> I presume it's a unit like this, as he says it's over a metre tall:
> http://www.ece.lsu
July is BASIC Month and there's another challenge happening on
RetroBattlestations. The type-in program for this challenge borrows a little
bit of code from the very first BASIC challenge that I did. I've created a
little "turtle graphics" type program that uses a stack based command
interprete
On Fri, Jul 08, 2016 at 01:18:45PM +0100, Rod Smallwood wrote:
>
>
> On 08/07/2016 07:14, Pontus Pihlgren wrote:
> >On Thu, Jul 07, 2016 at 07:47:32PM +0100, Rod Smallwood wrote:
> >>
> >>On 07/07/2016 19:11, John H. Reinhardt wrote:
> >>>On 7/7/2016 3:02 AM, Rod Smallwood wrote:
>
>
>
On Fri, 8 Jul 2016, Liam Proven wrote:
> WordStar commands are still used in some things, such as JOE.
You are right and I use Joe daily, hmm, more like hourly. I'm typing this
message in it, right now, in fact. It's my $EDITOR and default composition
editor in Alpine, my go-to mail client.
> H
On Fri, 8 Jul 2016, Liam Proven wrote:
> WordStar commands for that operation would be:
> Mark beginning of block: ^K B
> Mark end of block: ^K K
> (WordStar did not allow block selection with the cursor keys.)
AFAIK, original Wordstar didn't, but the Borland IDE and Joe does. Just
hold down ctrl
On 8 July 2016 at 18:15, Swift Griggs wrote:
> On Fri, 8 Jul 2016, Liam Proven wrote:
>> WordStar commands are still used in some things, such as JOE.
>
> You are right and I use Joe daily, hmm, more like hourly. I'm typing this
> message in it, right now, in fact. It's my $EDITOR and default comp
On 8 July 2016 at 18:20, Swift Griggs wrote:
> On Fri, 8 Jul 2016, Liam Proven wrote:
>> WordStar commands for that operation would be:
>> Mark beginning of block: ^K B
>> Mark end of block: ^K K
>> (WordStar did not allow block selection with the cursor keys.)
>
> AFAIK, original Wordstar didn't,
On 07/08/2016 09:20 AM, Swift Griggs wrote:
> On Fri, 8 Jul 2016, Liam Proven wrote:
>> WordStar commands for that operation would be: Mark beginning of
>> block: ^K B Mark end of block: ^K K (WordStar did not allow block
>> selection with the cursor keys.)
>
> AFAIK, original Wordstar didn't, but
On 8 July 2016 at 19:08, Chuck Guzis wrote:
>
> Wordstar allowed for "user routines" for various keyboard and display
> functions. I suspect you could have made any key or combination of keys
> do all sorts of strange things.
Ah, yes, I vaguely recall looking at that. But it was too much like
ha
On 07/08/2016 10:27 AM, Liam Proven wrote:
> Only hardcore IBM customers used DisplayWrite. It had, naturally,
> great support for IBM's (rather expensive but very solid) laser
> printers, which were slightly competitive and popular around the end
> of the 1980s/beginning of the 1990s. Odd spi
On Fri, Jul 8, 2016 at 8:12 AM, Liam Proven wrote:
> But when I got my hands on early Macs and Windows 2 in my first job, I
> discovered the CUA model, and I've liked it ever since. I still miss
> CUA editing on the Linux command line.
>
> There are some: http://liam-on-linux.livejournal.com/4290
On 8 July 2016 at 20:00, Chuck Guzis wrote:
> On 07/08/2016 10:27 AM, Liam Proven wrote:
>
>
>> Only hardcore IBM customers used DisplayWrite. It had, naturally,
>> great support for IBM's (rather expensive but very solid) laser
>> printers, which were slightly competitive and popular around the e
On 07/08/2016 11:19 AM, Liam Proven wrote:
> There are or were lots of odd editors for the PC. IBM E was one --
> apparently it's quite like some mainframe tool. Came with PC-DOS and
> was... strange.
Originally, PC-DOS had only EDLIN, which, amazingly, was *less* powerful
than CP/M ED.
"E" in
On 8 July 2016 at 20:42, Chuck Guzis wrote:
>> There are or were lots of odd editors for the PC. IBM E was one --
>> apparently it's quite like some mainframe tool. Came with PC-DOS and
>> was... strange.
>
> Originally, PC-DOS had only EDLIN, which, amazingly, was *less* powerful
> than CP/M ED.
On 2016-07-08 3:19 PM, Liam Proven wrote:
On 8 July 2016 at 20:00, Chuck Guzis wrote:
On 07/08/2016 10:27 AM, Liam Proven wrote:
Only hardcore IBM customers used DisplayWrite. It had, naturally,
great support for IBM's (rather expensive but very solid) laser
printers, which were slightly com
On 2016-07-08 3:45 PM, Liam Proven wrote:
On 8 July 2016 at 20:42, Chuck Guzis wrote:
There are or were lots of odd editors for the PC. IBM E was one --
apparently it's quite like some mainframe tool. Came with PC-DOS and
was... strange.
Originally, PC-DOS had only EDLIN, which, amazingly, was
On 07/08/2016 11:46 AM, Paul Berger wrote:
> Before displaywriter the OP division of IBM produced the Office
> system 6 which had a really cool inkjet printer as long as you
> didn't have to fix them service reps called them "Spray and pray"
> They where not a thermal inkjet like most modern o
I used, until my Windows XP days, an editor called Qedit. Q.exe It was
fast and one could edit columns as well as rows. This made it useful for
pre-parsing of data files.
I also used PEdit, an IBM program. I used to teach DisplayWrite 4 at the
IBM Customer Center in Wilmington, Delaware.
I mus
On 2016-07-08 4:28 PM, John Willis wrote:
There are or were lots of odd editors for the PC. IBM E was one --
apparently it's quite like some mainframe tool. Came with PC-DOS and
was... strange.
I liked EPM under OS/2, and had to get acquainted with TEDIT for disaster
recovery of same. I belie
> On Jul 8, 2016, at 3:13 PM, Chuck Guzis wrote:
>
> On 07/08/2016 11:46 AM, Paul Berger wrote:
>
>> Before displaywriter the OP division of IBM produced the Office
>> system 6 which had a really cool inkjet printer as long as you
>> didn't have to fix them service reps called them "Spray a
>
>
> There are or were lots of odd editors for the PC. IBM E was one --
> apparently it's quite like some mainframe tool. Came with PC-DOS and
> was... strange.
>
>
I liked EPM under OS/2, and had to get acquainted with TEDIT for disaster
recovery of same. I believe "E" under OS/2 was just a strip
On Fri, 8 Jul 2016, Paul Koning wrote:
I may have missed it, but I haven't seen the IBM MT/ST mentioned.
That's certainly a rather old system, dating back to 1964 according to
Wikipedia, which says it's the oldest word processor (and references an
article about WP history).
The original post
On 2016-07-08 4:33 PM, Paul Koning wrote:
On Jul 8, 2016, at 3:13 PM, Chuck Guzis wrote:
On 07/08/2016 11:46 AM, Paul Berger wrote:
Before displaywriter the OP division of IBM produced the Office
system 6 which had a really cool inkjet printer as long as you
didn't have to fix them servic
> On Jul 8, 2016, at 3:43 PM, Fred Cisin wrote:
>
> On Fri, 8 Jul 2016, Paul Koning wrote:
>> I may have missed it, but I haven't seen the IBM MT/ST mentioned. That's
>> certainly a rather old system, dating back to 1964 according to Wikipedia,
>> which says it's the oldest word processor (and
What the hadn't looked at my cctalk messages in a few days and just
realized every subject line says my name. That is creepy.
On 07/08/2016 12:33 PM, Paul Koning wrote:
> I may have missed it, but I haven't seen the IBM MT/ST mentioned.
> That's certainly a rather old system, dating back to 1964 according
> to Wikipedia, which says it's the oldest word processor (and
> references an article about WP history).
That was
[continued discussion from the URL that Evan posted]
If the MT/ST was released in 1964, then even with its high price, it
seems odd that so many years would go by before anybody used it for a
book manuscript.
On Fri, 8 Jul 2016, Paul Koning wrote:
I can think of any number of reasons. $10k, i
It was thus said that the Great Paul Berger once stated:
> >
> The DOS editor I really like was originally call PE and an enhanced
> version "E" was shipped with later version of PC-DOS, there are also
> some clones of the editor floating around as well. I still use this
> editor regularly bec
It was thus said that the Great Chuck Guzis once stated:
>
> On occasion, I still use an editor that I wrote for CP/M and later
> ported to DOS. 11KB and it has lots of features that are peculiar to my
> preferences. I'd thought about porting it to Linux, but currently, it's
> still in assembly
On Fri, 8 Jul 2016, Sean Conner wrote:
That's it. I was even able to edit files that exceeded the RAM of the
machine (I didn't do it often since it was sluggish but it could handle it).
Many early word processing programs were limited to RAM. It was common
practice to use a separate file per
On 07/08/2016 01:42 PM, Fred Cisin wrote:
> And, as I mentioned previously, it was quite common for secretaries
> moonlighting as typists to bring work in and use them after-hours.
> (sometimes with tacit approval from the boss! My boss gave me
> after-hours access to use 026 punches, ('course
I'm 3 or more parties away from whoever would make the decision, but I've
forwarded your expression of interest along through my friend.
Location is Vancouver BC region if you were unaware.
On 2016-Jul-08, at 1:00 AM, Curious Marc wrote:
> I have a fond memory of these. I am interested. Would
The classiccmp VM will go down tonight around 10pm-ish CST. There is nothing
wrong with the VM, but the NAS it's disks are on is having some issues.
We've live-migrated all VDI's off that NAS except classiccmp's. Due to the
size of those drives, they will migrate a lot faster if that VM is shut dow
Thanks Jay. Hopefully this will avoid a long thread on why
classiccmp is down and folks aren’t receiving messages. ;-)
TTFN - Guy
> On Jul 8, 2016, at 2:30 PM, Jay West wrote:
>
> The classiccmp VM will go down tonight around 10pm-ish CST. There is nothing
> wrong with the VM, but the NAS it'
> I've come to the conclusion [1] that terminfo and curses aren't
> needed any more. If you target VT100 (or Xterm or any other
> derivative) and directly write ANSI sequences, it'll just work.
(a) That is not my experience.
(b) To the extent that it's true, it works only if you stick to a very
Hi,
for rebuilding a circuit, I'm in need of 3 old connectors used on the
original board.
##
One is easy - J3 is a 2x10 pin 2.54mm connector which is still common today.
But it is higher than the usual connectors. It has a hight of 1.5cm. If you
search for the printed A-M
On Fri, Jul 01, 2016 at 07:54:42PM +0200, Liam Proven wrote:
> On 1 July 2016 at 18:48, Ian Finder wrote:
> >
> > Likewise there are Packard Bell X86 older than that iMac, that
> > would qualify by most age limits I'd expect to be imposed, but
> > that I'd cringe at seeing discussed here.
>
>
>
On 7/8/2016 5:09 PM, Guy Sotomayor Jr wrote:
Thanks Jay. Hopefully this will avoid a long thread on why
classiccmp is down and folks aren’t receiving messages. ;-)
TTFN - Guy
On Jul 8, 2016, at 2:30 PM, Jay West wrote:
The classiccmp VM will go down tonight around 10pm-ish CST. There is no
On 7/8/16 7:11 PM, Jim Brain wrote:
On 7/8/2016 5:09 PM, Guy Sotomayor Jr wrote:
Thanks Jay. Hopefully this will avoid a long thread on why
classiccmp is down and folks aren’t receiving messages. ;-)
TTFN - Guy
On Jul 8, 2016, at 2:30 PM, Jay West wrote:
The classiccmp VM will go down to
On Fri, 8 Jul 2016, Liam Proven wrote:
> I can remember more functionality via WordStar keystrokes than I can via
> vi ones! :-)
That's the very reason I teach Vi in classes but privately still use Joe
extensively. I prefer muscle-memory-macro-keystrokes over what I'd call
"conscious modes". I
Umm
Weren't our computers designed before quality change control existed...
(Duck)
Doug
On 9 July 2016 10:39:55 am AEST, "Ryan K. Brooks" wrote:
>
>On 7/8/16 7:11 PM, Jim Brain wrote:
>> On 7/8/2016 5:09 PM, Guy Sotomayor Jr wrote:
>>> Thanks Jay. Hopefully this will avoid a long thread o
On Fri, 8 Jul 2016, Jim Brain wrote:
> Is there a defined maintenance window for the list? Has it been
> published? Will users be impacted by this change? If so, I am not sure I
> am comfortable with the server being unavailable on a Friday night.
> We're still using the service at 10PM. Has
On Fri, 8 Jul 2016, Swift Griggs wrote:
Remember that scene in one of the Star Trek movies where he firsts
exclaims "You mean it's a MANUAL!" when he's told the computer he's
attempting to voice command won't respond ? You think he's going to fumble
with the keyboard then he starts typing so fast
I found some BAMDUA / BAKUP newsletters (Bay Area Micro Decision Users
Association and Bay Area Kaypro Users and Programmers). Does anyone know
anything about these user groups?
--
David Griffith
d...@661.org
A: Because it fouls the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-po
It was thus said that the Great Mouse once stated:
> > I've come to the conclusion [1] that terminfo and curses aren't
> > needed any more. If you target VT100 (or Xterm or any other
> > derivative) and directly write ANSI sequences, it'll just work.
>
> (a) That is not my experience.
I did ac
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