Well what the heck, found it, we have one right here in the CHM collection!!!
It's part of an HP 5451C Fourier Analysis system, and there are quite a few
other bits needed besides the HP-1000 and its many weird cards! I think I saw
them from the guy that I bought the HP 1000 from. I might go bac
> Well what the heck, found it, we have one right here in the CHM collection!!!
> It's
> part of an HP 5451C Fourier Analysis system, and there are quite a few other
> bits
> needed besides the HP-1000 and its many weird cards! I think I saw them from
> the guy that I bought the HP 1000 from. I
>
> The boards are also used in the HP 5420A/B Dynamic Signal Analysers and the HP
> 5423A Structural Dynamics Analyser.
> The boards belong to the 5443 control unit which is actually a M-series
> processor with some add-ons like the booster board and a custom front
> panel/keyboard.
> The analyse
On Wed, Jun 15, 2016 at 09:17:01AM -0700, Christopher Satterfield wrote:
> Unicomp keys are still done using dyesub PBT, same as IBMs. Still takes a lot
> of effort to wear it down, I don't recall ever seeing a board with any wear
> on the legends.
My teetering pile of junk^W Fine Legacy Equipment
> From: William Degnan
>>> Is there a table with the jumpers and values somewhere?
>> No, but I'll whip one up and stick it on the Computer History wiki.
> Many would appreciate this I bet.
I'm sure I would have - I, like a lot of others, struggled with the
address/vector jumper
Marc wrote...
-
21MX K (whatever a K-model is, never heard of it, but seems to be made of an
HP 2105 model, I'll look that up
-
I have not been HP-focused for a year or so, I've had my head in DG stuff
instead and I am finding that I'm forgetting (and remembering wrong) many HP
things l
Marc wrote...
-
It's part of an HP 5451C Fourier Analysis system
-
So my foggy memory of it being a card to make the system a fourier analysis
instrument was "not too far off" *grin*. Now if I could just remember when wife
asks me to bring home bread from the store
Marc gave me new
A 7/32" or 5.5mm socket or nutdriver will do the job nicely.
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From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Peter
Corlett
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2016 6:25 AM
To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
Subject: Re: Keyboards and the Model M (
On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 7:45 AM, Noel Chiappa
wrote:
> > From: William Degnan
>
> >>> Is there a table with the jumpers and values somewhere?
>
> >> No, but I'll whip one up and stick it on the Computer History wiki.
>
> > Many would appreciate this I bet.
>
> I'm sure I would hav
On 15 June 2016 at 17:23, Peter Corlett wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 15, 2016 at 04:51:43PM +0200, Liam Proven wrote:
> [...]
>> * Simplicity -- the Finder integration with the OS, the desktop database,
>> etc. Move items around, aliases still point to them. Even to other drives,
>> even to other machines
> From: William Degnan
> If I understand correctly, the first DL might be for example a TU58 or
> other serial device.
Well, DL11's long predate TU58's, and the 'first' DL11 would almost certainly
have been connected to a terminal, but yes, basically.
> The console = 0, the "firs
On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 10:13 AM, Noel Chiappa
wrote:
> > From: William Degnan
>
> > If I understand correctly, the first DL might be for example a TU58
> or
> > other serial device.
>
> Well, DL11's long predate TU58's, and the 'first' DL11 would almost
> certainly
> have been connec
> This further helps my understanding. Problem is, the card is bad. Knowing
> it's probably jumpered correctly (assuming I have everything right, which
> is a big assumption) I will check the 1488/89 drivers, etc. to see what's
> wrong with the card.
What I would do is :
Check that there are
Hi Dave,
thanks for your answer and for the hint. I had been in touch with the
Museum in Manchester at the very beginning of the investigation on
this unit and they had been able to supply some marketing brochures
on Ferranti in general and the navigation business in special,
but there have not
I sent mail to Erik and guess what? The typewriter is still available! Thanks
for the tip! :D
- Johannes ThelenFinland
Before microcomputers blog (Finnish) http://ennenmikrotietokoneita.blogspot.fi/
> From: dave.g4...@gmail.com
> To: cctalk@classiccmp.org
> Subject: RE: Searching an IBM Model
Eric,
I have forwarded this to some ex-Ferranti folks who may be able to help.
The Museum of Science and Industry in Manchester has many of the old
Ferranti papers and there may be some information in their archives, but
much of the technical info went to other buyers.
Dave.
> -Original Mes
On 15 June 2016 at 20:39, Swift Griggs wrote:
> On Wed, 15 Jun 2016, Liam Proven wrote:
>> In Ireland, "gear" means hard drugs, so maybe it's safer!
>
> Whoa. I didn't know that. You are right. I'll have to convert to using
> "kit" exclusively next time I'm in the UK. I'm usually just in Heathrow
On 16 June 2016 at 01:47, Mouse wrote:
> So are Linux and BSD, right up until you start caring about the _legal_
> definition of UNIX, which is why they call themselves as "based on
> UNIX" or "UNIX-like" or the like. But (IMO, of course) the legal sense
> is the only one in which they aren't UNI
On 16 June 2016 at 13:25, Peter Corlett wrote:
> My teetering pile of junk^W Fine Legacy Equipment that requires some TLC
> includes a dead Unicomp Model M where some of the legends have clearly worn
> away. The user admits to putting it through the dishwasher at least twice,
> having apparently d
Hi There,
I am working on restoration, documentation of a some vintage navigation
systems from the late 1970ties, which have been designed in the UK. They
contain an archaic bit-serial computer and I'd be interested if
someone on this list recognizes the architecture and/or can confirm
my assump
On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 6:06 AM, Jay West wrote:
>
> Marc showed me a machine that was badged "1000F", but had no FP box under it.
> I of course (incorrectly) told him - it ain't an F unless you go back and get
> the FP box that goes with. He found that in the rear above the I/O cage,
> there w
Glen wrote
Figures 1-2 and 1-3 show the difference between the 2111F and 2117F and how the
two FPP Arithmetic and Control PCAs fit into the top of the 2111F instead of
into a separate box below the 2117F.
Yeah, I checked my M/E/F red handbook that I keep next to the system console
and
On 6/16/16 6:06 AM, Jay West wrote:
> Marc wrote...
> -
> It's part of an HP 5451C Fourier Analysis system
>
I've got a 5451C service manual, it's in the queue to scan.
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From: "Liam Proven"
To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts"
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2016 10:05 AM
Subject: Re: Quadra 660AV what's with the "PowerPC" label?
On 15 June 2016 at 17:23, Peter Corlett wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 15, 2016 at 04:51:43PM +0200,
Al,
Yes please! I was looking all over for that so I can try to pick up the right
pieces from the seller. Hurry (or maybe I can come around and take a peek?).
Marc
> On Jun 16, 2016, at 10:08 AM, Al Kossow wrote:
>
>
>
>> On 6/16/16 6:06 AM, Jay West wrote:
>> Marc wrote...
>> -
>> It's p
Apparently the 21MX-K is an HP 2105 sold as board kit without a chassis and
power supply. Motherboard, firmware board, short risers, and front panel. So
you can stick your own embedded computer in your project, add your own
specialized boards (and keyboard!).The Arduino controller of the time (b
Very nice! Did you do that? Where you able to revive it? Do you have a picture
if the MIOB interface boards, I have some unidentified boards in my system,
that might be it!
Marc
Sent from my iPad
> On Jun 16, 2016, at 1:53 AM, Rik Bos wrote:
>
> Some picture and a short video loading the oper
It was thus said that the Great Liam Proven once stated:
> On 14 June 2016 at 01:56, Sean Conner wrote:
> > What do you feel is still missing from OS-X today? About the only thing I
> > can think of is the unique file system, where each file had a data and a
> > resource fork.
>
> * The clean
On 6/16/16 11:27 AM, Curious Marc wrote:
> Hurry
ain't gonna happen, i'm in the middle of another fscking move
Hi,
I've shoot an DLI / Dolch Logic Instrumnets Logic Analyzer Type C-100D
on ebay today. It seems that I get some pos too, unfortunately no Z80
personality ..but a lot standard Pods.
Since there are no Manuals for it included in the auction I'm asking
nicely here if someone has the paperwork for
It was thus said that the Great Liam Proven once stated:
> It's a modern init. Most of panic is just headless running around. No,
> it's not an old-fashioned simplistic Unix utility. Hey, newsflash,
> neither is GNOME, neither is KDE. Neither is much of modern Unix.
I'm not a fan of systemd, but
On Thu, 6/16/16, Sean Conner wrote:
> It was thus said that the Great Liam Proven once stated:
> > And Plan 9 went one better, and (mostly) eliminated that nasty old
> > unsafe mess, C, and it eliminated native binaries and brought
> > platform-neutral binaries to the game.
>
> Um ... what? Pla
>> No, it's not an old-fashioned simplistic Unix utility. Hey,
>> newsflash, neither is GNOME, neither is KDE.
And if either of those were being made as central to the system as
systemd is, there would be a similar outcry against them.
The problem is not that systemd is bloated, or buggy, or bad
Hi all,
These Hazeltine 2000 were just on Ebay and were quickly snatched up.=C2=A0 =
Did anybody here happen to snag them?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/272275536298
http://www.ebay.com/itm/282069468875
I've been looking for these manuals for some time.=C2=A0 If someone won the=
m (or has a set), I wond
On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 5:32 PM, Dave wrote:
> Hi all,
> These Hazeltine 2000 were just on Ebay and were quickly snatched up.=C2=A0 =
> Did anybody here happen to snag them?
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/272275536298
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/282069468875
Funny I was just following links from my save
>
> Check the cable, if it's not the one you used with the other
> serial port card.
>
> -tony
>
Tony,
Thanks for the tips. The card may have bad component(s) but at least it
had not yet been previously repaired when the unit was in production. I
find "vintage" repairs from back in their day ar
On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 10:58 AM, william degnan wrote:
>
>>
>> Check the cable, if it's not the one you used with the other
>> serial port card.
>>
>
> The original cable, p/n is a 174-1 flat cable with Berg connectors on
> either end so I had to find something compatible with a terminal ins
I the HP -> Agilent -> Keysight world when you see part numbers start
with a 0 (zero) in many cases the instrument they were for or in this
case part of, is the digits that follow.
Not in all cases, this falls apart for things that were common between
instruments or the item was already had been u
From: Swift Griggs
On Wed, 15 Jun 2016, geneb wrote:
> I just wish the Unicomp keys were two-part keys like the Model M uses.
I wish ALL keyboards did that... it's a superior design, IMHO.
I'm puzzled, what do you mean two part? Cap and key?
That's all I've gotten from Unicomp... That's how I
On Thu, 16 Jun 2016, Earl Baugh wrote:
From: Swift Griggs
On Wed, 15 Jun 2016, geneb wrote:
I just wish the Unicomp keys were two-part keys like the Model M uses.
I wish ALL keyboards did that... it's a superior design, IMHO.
I'm puzzled, what do you mean two part? Cap and key?
That's all
Hooleon does/did. For other keyboards as well.
ok
bear.
--
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> On Jun 16, 2016, at 11:41, geneb wrote:
>
>
> Does anyone other than Unicomp make different key caps?
> On Jun 16, 2016, at 10:32 , Earl Baugh wrote:
>
> I'm puzzled, what do you mean two part? Cap and key?
> That's all I've gotten from Unicomp... That's how I got all of the "blank"
> caps from...
Yes, I think that most of the keys on the Unicomp keyboard I bought a year or
so ago were two-p
On Thu, 16 Jun 2016, r.stricklin wrote:
Hooleon does/did. For other keyboards as well.
"For availability and pricing contact Hooleon Sales"
Translation: "We don't stock this stuff so don't bother us."
g.
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http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind.
http:
If anyone has standalone Symbolics hardware, and wants to trade for
something more managable that can do an LCD display and uses more standard
parts, I have the following system for trade for any Merlin / XL machine.
I'm going all-in on wacky hardware, because I have multiple machines and
already
Is there an electronic copy of this floating around? My (ex-library) copy
is missing all of chapter 11, "What is there to calculate?. (And the last
page of the previous chapter). The pages weren't ripped out, they were
missing when it was bound. Very annoying, I enjoyed the book right up
until
On 2016-06-16 9:28 PM, Brian Walenz wrote:
...
Just to make any discussion a bit more interesting, what would you suggest
along similar lines? The two giant books on IBM (detailing "pre-360", and
"360") were quite fun too.
"A Few Good Men From Univac", Lundstrom, MIT Press, is enjoyable but
I am going back to Dallas next week to sort 2 pallets of media and software.
The age runs from reels of tape (9 track? Dated 1989 and earlier) to LTO4.
Software, there are a LOT of MS Developer CDs from 2011 and much earlier,
Xilinx CDs, AIX CDs, Solaris CDs (the earliest I noticed off the bat wa
> >
> > The original cable, p/n is a 174-1 flat cable with Berg connectors on
> > either end so I had to find something compatible with a terminal instead.
> > I switched in the same BC03L-10 that I have been using to connect to a
> > 25-pin terminal (with null modem adapter) using a newer DL1
> I the HP -> Agilent -> Keysight world when you see part numbers start
> with a 0 (zero) in many cases the instrument they were for or in this
> case part of, is the digits that follow.
As I understand the HP numbering scheme
Components have part numbers with 2 groups of 4 digits. The first
On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 09:53:57PM -0400, Toby Thain wrote:
> On 2016-06-16 9:28 PM, Brian Walenz wrote:
> >...
> >
> >Just to make any discussion a bit more interesting, what would you suggest
> >along similar lines? The two giant books on IBM (detailing "pre-360", and
> >"360") were quite fun to
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