CP/M version 2.1 found

2016-02-29 Thread David Griffith
I found an 8-inch floppy disk labeled with "CP/M V2.0 9/4/79" which is crossed out and replaced below with "CP/M V2.1 7/13/80". I don't see mention of version 2.1 at http://www.cpm.z80.de. Do I have something unique? Who can I trust to image this and put the contents on the net? -- David

R: CP/M version 2.1 found

2016-02-29 Thread supervinx
Where do you live? I guess I'm too far to help, but I'd like to have that image and look into it... Messaggio originale Da: David Griffith Data:29/02/2016 09:24 (GMT+01:00) A: cctalk Oggetto: CP/M version 2.1 found I found an 8-inch floppy disk labeled with "CP/M V2.0 9

Re: Techno-savvy...

2016-02-29 Thread Toby Thain
On 2016-02-29 2:43 AM, drlegendre . wrote: "Techno-savvy" is essentially a media / marketing term. For the most part, it means whatever the speaker(s) wish it to mean, within the context in which it is used. So I wasn't the only one who cringed. The term isn't always complimentary; it can ju

Re: MM11-U/UP core memory backplanes

2016-02-29 Thread Noel Chiappa
> From: Bill Degnan > I will see what else I have available. As far as I have been able to determine, the only backplane that supports the MM11-UP is the MF11-U backplane. Does anyone know of anything else that does? Noel

Re: 3B2 Diagnostics

2016-02-29 Thread Seth Morabito
* On Sun, Feb 28, 2016 at 05:24:17PM -0500, Alan Hightower wrote: > > > Seth, > > 'filledt' comes on every Essential Utilities Disk 1 along with the unix > kernel and OS install routines. Get a SVR3 3.0 Essential Utilities Disk > 1 and run filledt from there. I just went through this last we

Re: 'motherboard' etymology

2016-02-29 Thread Maciej W. Rozycki
On Sun, 28 Feb 2016, Jules Richardson wrote: > > Computers existed way before 1980, and had many boards plugged into > > wire-wrapped backplanes or motherboards. > > Backplane was certainly a term from way back, I just don't recall seeing > motherboard before somewhere around the 1980 timeframe.

Re: 'motherboard' etymology

2016-02-29 Thread John Willis
> > Computers existed way before 1980, and had many boards plugged into > wire-wrapped backplanes or motherboards.I'm guessing the terminology > was company-specific. IBM had their own name for EVERYTHING, for > instance. They did NOT use the term motherboard, as far as I know. The > SMS sys

Re: R: CP/M version 2.1 found

2016-02-29 Thread Chuck Guzis
I found an 8-inch floppy disk labeled with "CP/M V2.0 9/4/79" which is crossed out and replaced below with "CP/M V2.1 7/13/80". I don't see mention of version 2.1 at http://www.cpm.z80.de. Do I have something unique? Who can I trust to image this and put the contents on the net? DRI releas

RE: 'motherboard' etymology

2016-02-29 Thread tony duell
> > FWIW, the IBM term for "motherboard" was "planar", at least in the era of > the PC, PC/XT, PC/AT, etc. But IBM (at that time) also used the term 'Planar' for 'backplane'. The backplane in the 5161 expansion unit [1] is labelled 'I/O Planar' or something very similar in the silkscreen. [1]

Re: 'motherboard' etymology

2016-02-29 Thread Fred Cisin
On Mon, 29 Feb 2016, John Willis wrote: FWIW, the IBM term for "motherboard" was "planar", at least in the era of the PC, PC/XT, PC/AT, etc. The first computer to which I had access was my father's 5150 in approximately 1984; I remember the machine came with dual floppy drives and a 64K system

Re: 'motherboard' etymology

2016-02-29 Thread Peter Cetinski
> Does anyone know the origins of the term 'motherboard'? > > I've always associated it with computers and assumed that it started > appearing somewhere around 1980, with the fading out of passive backplane > systems and arrival of machines which put more functionality onto a 'core' > PCB into

Re: 'motherboard' etymology

2016-02-29 Thread Chuck Guzis
Didn't Intel use what it called "daugherboards" on some of its line of Multibus products? That is, the "offspring" products plugged into the Multibus card, not the backplane. Am I remembering correctly? --Chuck

Re: 'motherboard' etymology

2016-02-29 Thread Fred Cisin
On Mon, 29 Feb 2016, Chuck Guzis wrote: Didn't Intel use what it called "daugherboards" on some of its line of Multibus products? That is, the "offspring" products plugged into the Multibus card, not the backplane. Am I remembering correctly? And, could it be that SOME use of the word "mothe

Re: 'motherboard' etymology

2016-02-29 Thread George Rachor
Yes... The SBX cards! Sent from my iPhone geo...@rachors.com > On Feb 29, 2016, at 12:18 PM, Chuck Guzis wrote: > > Didn't Intel use what it called "daugherboards" on some of its line of > Multibus products? That is, the "offspring" products plugged into the > Multibus card, not the backplan

Needs help w/ diagnosing and hopefully repairing of a DEC Tape Drive

2016-02-29 Thread Ali
In my continuing quest for a 9-track drive I got my hands on DEC TSZ07-CA w/ a narrow SCSI interface that was supposedly "tested working". On arrival to me I found it wrapped in a thin layer of bubble wrap w/ some broken piece of Styrofoam thrown in for "packing". As one can imagine the drive did

Re: 'motherboard' etymology

2016-02-29 Thread Toby Thain
On 2016-02-28 7:32 PM, Jules Richardson wrote: Does anyone know the origins of the term 'motherboard'? ... I was amused to learn that other languages sometimes translate it literally. Portuguese uses "placa mãe" - "board mother". (Pt takes lots of other technical terms from English and verbs

Re: 'motherboard' etymology

2016-02-29 Thread Maciej W. Rozycki
On Mon, 29 Feb 2016, John Willis wrote: > FWIW, the IBM term for "motherboard" was "planar", at least in the era of > the PC, PC/XT, PC/AT, etc. I believe I saw it on Lenovo ThinkPad part lists some 5 years ago, so the term must have survived well beyond the PC/AT, etc. Maciej

PDP-10 programming [was RE: Dumb Terminal games (was Re: Looking for a small fast VAX development machine)]

2016-02-29 Thread Rich Alderson
From: David Griffith Sent: Friday, February 26, 2016 4:05 PM > One of my ongoing wish projects is to learn to program a pdp-10 so I can > port Frotz to it. The canonical textbook is Ralph Gorin's _Introduction to DECSYSTEM-20 Assembly Language Programming_ (Digital Press, 1981). Lots of examples

Re: Techno-savvy...

2016-02-29 Thread drlegendre .
"Or "the family member you go to when you can't print"." A functional niche definition, for sure. "When you can't get your email" is equivalent. On Mon, Feb 29, 2016 at 7:43 AM, Toby Thain wrote: > On 2016-02-29 2:43 AM, drlegendre . wrote: > >> "Techno-savvy" is essentially a media / marketing

Re: PDP-10 programming [was RE: Dumb Terminal games (was Re: Looking for a small fast VAX development machine)]

2016-02-29 Thread Glen Slick
On Feb 29, 2016 5:07 PM, "Rich Alderson" wrote: > > From: David Griffith > Sent: Friday, February 26, 2016 4:05 PM > > > One of my ongoing wish projects is to learn to program a pdp-10 so I can > > port Frotz to it. > > The canonical textbook is Ralph Gorin's _Introduction to DECSYSTEM-20 > Assemb

Re: Needs help w/ diagnosing and hopefully repairing of a DEC Tape Drive

2016-02-29 Thread Chuck Guzis
On 02/29/2016 01:59 PM, Ali wrote: In my continuing quest for a 9-track drive I got my hands on DEC TSZ07-CA w/ a narrow SCSI interface that was supposedly "tested working". On arrival to me I found it wrapped in a thin layer of bubble wrap w/ some broken piece of Styrofoam thrown in for "packing

Re: PDP-10 programming [was RE: Dumb Terminal games (was Re: Looking for a small fast VAX development machine)]

2016-02-29 Thread Mark Wickens
There is a copy on archive.org: https://archive.org/details/introductiontode00step Regards, Mark. On 01/03/16 01:07, Rich Alderson wrote: From: David Griffith Sent: Friday, February 26, 2016 4:05 PM One of my ongoing wish projects is to learn to program a pdp-10 so I can port Frotz to it. T