PDP11GUI 1.47

2015-11-25 Thread Jörg Hoppe
Folks, a new version of PDP11GUI is online. It fixes some errors, including "Error 103", which occured when running MACRO11 without administrator privileges. There were also problems under Win10. Download from http://retrocmp.com/pdp-11/pdp11gui Bug feedback is necessary! Enjoy, Joerg

Re: WTB Miniscribe 3425 (working or parts donor)

2015-11-25 Thread Jules Richardson
On 11/25/2015 12:19 AM, Mark J. Blair wrote: I have the drive spinning up happily, though track alignment is still a crap shoot. I've tried dumping it with the MFM Reader/Emulator, and its software could not make sense of the track format or CRC. I dumped a raw MFM transitions file for more analy

Re: Oberon and the OberonStation (retro-style FPGA computing)

2015-11-25 Thread geneb
On Tue, 24 Nov 2015, ben wrote: On 11/23/2015 7:28 PM, William Maddox wrote: The revived 2013 re-issue of Niklaus Wirth's Oberon system is a joy to behold. If you've never heard of Oberon before, it is a minimalistic education-oriented language and operating system designed after Wirth had ta

Re: Oberon and the OberonStation (retro-style FPGA computing)

2015-11-25 Thread geneb
On Tue, 24 Nov 2015, Paul Koning wrote: Pascal is largely obsolete now, but I still appreciate it -- of the 40 or so languages I know, there are only two where I could go from no knowledge at all to having a working program of significant size in one week: Pascal and Python. Um, no. Check o

Re: flash (or ide) storage for unibus 11?

2015-11-25 Thread Noel Chiappa
> From: Phil Budne >>> allow the board to be connected to a modern computer as a peripheral? >> Not sure I see the purpose? > Simulated serial port to MCU "console" and/or simulated q/unibus SLU(s) Yes, but... what's the point of being able to gain access to SLU's on the QBUS fr

Re: Random question about a Byte Magazine Cover

2015-11-25 Thread Eric Christopherson
On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 5:48 PM, Mark Wickens wrote: > OK so this has been bugging me for a while. During a stint working at > Morgan-Smith Electronics in Hatfield UK (they made diverse electronic > systems including industrial PCs and radio alarms) I went through the > boss's discarded vintage c

Re: flash (or ide) storage for unibus 11?

2015-11-25 Thread Toby Thain
On 2015-11-25 10:38 AM, Noel Chiappa wrote: > From: Phil Budne ... > Linux has "gadget" support for simulating various flavors of USB > devices on a 'device' port. I have zero, none, nada interest in doing a board that can run Linux. I am sure Phil only meant that it would be e

Front panels

2015-11-25 Thread Rod Smallwood
Hi Guys Ok our front panels are going into production. Meeting went well. We finally worked out how they did the matte layer on the front It appears to be a transparent or translucent white. Its ink base with no colour The effect is like a steamed up window or shower glass panel.

Re: WTB Miniscribe 3425 (working or parts donor)

2015-11-25 Thread Mark J. Blair
> On Nov 25, 2015, at 04:17, Jules Richardson > wrote: > > I *think* the track format for the S1410 is documented in the board manual, > so if you can get raw track data then there's a chance that you might be able > to make sense of it. > The sector format is described. but not in a great

Re: Replacing MicroVAX II PSU With a Modern PSU

2015-11-25 Thread Jon Elson
On 11/25/2015 01:34 AM, Robert Jarratt wrote: -Original Message- From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Jon Elson Sent: 25 November 2015 02:05 To: gene...@classiccmp.org; discuss...@classiccmp.org:On-Topic and Off- Topic Posts Subject: Re: Replacing MicroVAX II

Re: Oberon and the OberonStation (retro-style FPGA computing)

2015-11-25 Thread Jon Elson
On 11/25/2015 09:01 AM, geneb wrote: On Tue, 24 Nov 2015, Paul Koning wrote: Pascal is largely obsolete now, but I still appreciate it -- of the 40 or so languages I know, there are only two where I could go from no knowledge at all to having a working program of significant size in one week:

Re: 1980s/1990s 68k C cross (and not so cross) compilers

2015-11-25 Thread Brad Parker
On 11/21/15 2:38 PM, Al Kossow wrote: On 11/21/15 10:44 AM, Paul Koning wrote: Arg, totally forgot to include the HP 64000 and Tek 8560 development systems though I'm blanking right now on if they did their own or sold third-party C compilers. Third party, I believe. I used one of those f

RE: Replacing MicroVAX II PSU With a Modern PSU

2015-11-25 Thread Robert Jarratt
> -Original Message- > From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Jon Elson > Sent: 25 November 2015 16:37 > To: gene...@classiccmp.org; discuss...@classiccmp.org:On-Topic and Off- > Topic Posts > Subject: Re: Replacing MicroVAX II PSU With a Modern PSU > > On 11/25

Re: 1980s/1990s 68k C cross (and not so cross) compilers

2015-11-25 Thread Toby Thain
On 2015-11-25 11:46 AM, Brad Parker wrote: On 11/21/15 2:38 PM, Al Kossow wrote: On 11/21/15 10:44 AM, Paul Koning wrote: Arg, totally forgot to include the HP 64000 and Tek 8560 development systems though I'm blanking right now on if they did their own or sold third-party C compilers. Thi

Re: Replacing MicroVAX II PSU With a Modern PSU

2015-11-25 Thread Jon Elson
On 11/25/2015 11:01 AM, Robert Jarratt wrote: My reading of the Qbus spec is that P OK and DC OK are active high. That diagram tells me that both control signals are driven the same way because the two circuits are identical except for the timing caps. When the power is OK the output of the in

Re: Oberon and the OberonStation (retro-style FPGA computing)

2015-11-25 Thread geneb
On Wed, 25 Nov 2015, Jon Elson wrote: On 11/25/2015 09:01 AM, geneb wrote: On Tue, 24 Nov 2015, Paul Koning wrote: Pascal is largely obsolete now, but I still appreciate it -- of the 40 or so languages I know, there are only two where I could go from no knowledge at all to having a working p

Re: 1980s/1990s 68k C cross (and not so cross) compilers

2015-11-25 Thread Phil Budne
Brad Parker wrote: > Remember sumex-aim ? SumMacC. > Anyway, I think the Kinetics fastpath was compiled with that Perhaps originally But when the FastPath code arrived at Shiva it was using the SunOS 4 native compiler on Sun3. I moved it to gcc on Sun4. The 6/88 KIP release has C

RE: Replacing MicroVAX II PSU With a Modern PSU

2015-11-25 Thread Robert Jarratt
> -Original Message- > From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Jon Elson > Sent: 25 November 2015 17:10 > To: gene...@classiccmp.org; discuss...@classiccmp.org:On-Topic and Off- > Topic Posts > Subject: Re: Replacing MicroVAX II PSU With a Modern PSU > > On 11/25

Re: Big heap of DEC Flip-Chips modules

2015-11-25 Thread Pontus Pihlgren
Hi Jörg Very enticing. But the link gives me a 404. I think it should be: http://retrocmp.com/flipchipshop /P On Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 02:34:55PM +0100, Jörg Hoppe wrote: > Hi, > > a year ago or so an inventory of several thousand DEC flip-chip modules > appeared in the neighbourhood. >

Big heap of DEC Flip-Chips modules: URL update

2015-11-25 Thread Jörg Hoppe
Correction: typo in the URL, it is retrocmp.com/flipchipshop of course !! Am 25.11.2015 um 14:34 schrieb Jörg Hoppe: Hi, a year ago or so an inventory of several thousand DEC flip-chip modules appeared in the neighbourhood. "Yesss, my preciou, it came too me !!!" But I coul

Big heap of DEC Flip-Chips modules

2015-11-25 Thread Jörg Hoppe
Hi, a year ago or so an inventory of several thousand DEC flip-chip modules appeared in the neighbourhood. "Yesss, my preciou, it came too me !!!" But I couldn't acquire them. At least I help selling them now. The inventory is here: retrocmp.com/flipshipshop It was a 2-mon

RE: Big heap of DEC Flip-Chips modules

2015-11-25 Thread Robert Jarratt
> -Original Message- > From: cctech [mailto:cctech-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Jörg > Hoppe > Sent: 25 November 2015 13:35 > To: General Discussion: On-Topic Posts > Subject: Big heap of DEC Flip-Chips modules > > Hi, > > a year ago or so an inventory of several thousand DEC flip

Re: 1980s/1990s 68k C cross (and not so cross) compilers

2015-11-25 Thread Toby Thain
On 2015-11-25 1:41 PM, Phil Budne wrote: Brad Parker wrote: Remember sumex-aim ? SumMacC. Anyway, I think the Kinetics fastpath was compiled with that Perhaps originally But when the FastPath code arrived at Shiva it was using the SunOS 4 native compiler on Sun3. I moved it to

Re: Oberon and the OberonStation (retro-style FPGA computing)

2015-11-25 Thread Kurt K
They show sold out for the kits. Didn't see a link to ask if they'll ever get more in stock. > On Nov 24, 2015, at 1:46 AM, Mark Wickens wrote: > > In answer to Kurts question - the link with boards to purchase is here: > http://oberonstation.x10.mx/ > >> On 24 November 2015 at 07:45, Mark

Re: 1980s/1990s 68k C cross (and not so cross) compilers

2015-11-25 Thread Al Kossow
On 11/25/15 8:46 AM, Brad Parker wrote: In 1987 gcc would compile to 68k quite well. Before that I seem to recall that there was also a C compiler from Standford, from sumex (wow - do I still have those brain cells?). Remember sumex-aim ? SumMacC. Anyway, I think the Kinetics fastpath was co

Obscure pcc targets - Re: 1980s/1990s 68k C cross (and not so cross) compilers

2015-11-25 Thread Toby Thain
On 2015-11-25 2:22 PM, Al Kossow wrote: On 11/25/15 8:46 AM, Brad Parker wrote: In 1987 gcc would compile to 68k quite well. Before that I seem to recall that there was also a C compiler from Standford, from sumex (wow - do I still have those brain cells?). Remember sumex-aim ? SumMacC. Anywa

RE: Replacing MicroVAX II PSU With a Modern PSU

2015-11-25 Thread tony duell
> My reading of the Qbus spec is that P OK and DC OK are active high. That > diagram They are, for a very logical reason. Remember you can wire-AND open-collector signals -- that is link them together so that any driver can pull the line low and the line will only be high if all driver transist

Re: Replacing MicroVAX II PSU With a Modern PSU

2015-11-25 Thread Noel Chiappa
> From: Robert Jarratt > When the power is OK the output of the inverters is low, so the > transistors are off, presumably allowing the signals to float high. > When the power is not OK, the inverters are high, turning on the > transistors and shorting the signal to ground. Th

Re: flash (or ide) storage for unibus 11?

2015-11-25 Thread Noel Chiappa
> From: Toby Thain > it would be easy to interface to a board exposing such USB features > *from a separate Linux system* - because of that driver. Ah, OK - I'm so used to people putting Linux on the embedded processor in their rice cooker that, not clearly understanding what was bein

Blimey!

2015-11-25 Thread Robert Jarratt
£567 for a Research Machines 380Z. Suppose I will have to give up hope ever getting one of those…. L http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Research-Machine-380Z-RM-380Z-Tested-Working-/2317 54184801? Regards Rob

Re: Blimey!

2015-11-25 Thread Adrian Graham
On 25/11/2015 21:56, "Robert Jarratt" wrote: > £567 for a Research Machines 380Z. Suppose I will have to give up hope ever > getting one of those…. L > > > > http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Research-Machine-380Z-RM-380Z-Tested-Working-/2317 > 54184801? > Wow. I know the seller of that too, but di

Re: flash (or ide) storage for unibus 11?

2015-11-25 Thread Jerome H. Fine
>Johnny Billquist wrote: >On 2015-11-24 16:35, Al Kossow wrote: >On 11/23/15 11:46 PM, Johnny Billquist wrote: Your native interface have the additional problem that in addition to requiring people to write their own device driver for any OS usage, it will be rather difficult to get booting

Re: flash (or ide) storage for unibus 11?

2015-11-25 Thread Eric Smith
On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 3:13 AM, Johnny Billquist wrote: > The RH11 do DMA, just like all other disk controllers I know of. IIRC, the RX11/RX211 (Unibus) and RXV11/RXV21 (Qbus) don't do DMA.

Re: PDP11GUI 1.47

2015-11-25 Thread Mike Ross
*goes to URL* Wait, what? 11/70 hardware console functionality? But links are placeholders... work in progress? Mike On Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 11:52 PM, Jörg Hoppe wrote: > Folks, > a new version of PDP11GUI is online. > It fixes some errors, including "Error 103", which occured when running >

RE: flash (or ide) storage for unibus 11?

2015-11-25 Thread tony duell
> > The RH11 do DMA, just like all other disk controllers I know of. > > IIRC, the RX11/RX211 (Unibus) and RXV11/RXV21 (Qbus) don't do DMA. The RX11/RXV11 don't do DMA, but the RX211 and RXV21 do, I think -tony

Re: flash (or ide) storage for unibus 11?

2015-11-25 Thread Jerry Weiss
> > On Nov 25, 2015, at 10:41 PM, Jerome H. Fine wrote: > > >Johnny Billquist wrote: > …… > For example, the DSD 880/30 (from Data Systems Design of course) emulates > 3 RL02 disk drives using a single internal (non-removable) hard drive. The > box > also holds a single RX03 floppy disk drive